GSW/Phoenix

[turk3d]

I believe that we can get a better player thanDiaw for Al and our #14 and including all the reasons stated, which is why I would not do it.

With regards to Diaw, due to his versatility (which is his biggest asset imo) I believe he would be someone whom Nellie might desire; probably pretty intelligent (moreso than Al ) since he can effectively play so many positions (good Warrior fit), which is what might endear him to Nellie) but not to me. Personally, I would rather have AV on a straight up deal for Al + filler (AL + Pietrus S & T) for AV + Jones (he'd be a good fit with instant offense and a 3rd string point)/backup 2 guard) ut what I'd really prefer is something like

Wait, you think Damon Jones is an "instant offense" good fit? I mean, you have seen him play, right? Granted that might have been difficult to do, since even the Cavs with their complete absence of scoring options to support Lebron couldn't justify shoehorning that craptastrophe on to the court. He's not an NBA talent and he's definitely not a PG. He's a lazy, cocky, out of shape, streaky, no defense gunner with a weak/dumb floorgame. He's the black 2007 Belinelli.

Aquiring Damon Joneses, even as filler or expirings is not how you get better in this league.

He's a lifetime 39% 3 pt shooter (last year 41.7%), it's funny that's almost identical to what he shot from two point range (lol). He's a guy who can come off the bench and hit instant 3s. You don't think that's Nellie ball? I think I can tolerate him for 1 season (he'd be an expiring). We'd just need him for filler to balance out and Al for AV trade if we were going for it. Is it Damon you object to or is it more of AV? That fact that your boy AL is involved, I can understand your feelings on it. I (unlike most of the people around) don't have a problem with AV (I think he'd help us over here) although I don't value him as highly as some do (think we should trade picks with Cleveland as well which I definitely would not do). An AL and Petey for AV + Jones (gives us some help in an area it's needed although I admit not the ultimate solution) is something I'd consider, however as I indicated in another post, I think there's some guys who are better out there (and who might be available) who I think we might have a realistic shot at if we were to use the TPE as some have suggested (although there's a huge debate going as to whether or not this is a legitimate possibility).

[Sleepy51]

He's a lifetime 39% 3 pt shooter (last year 41.7%), it's funny that's almost identical to what he shot from two point range (lol). He's a guy who can come off the bench and hit instant 3s. You don't think that's Nellie ball? I think I can tolerate him for 1 season (he'd be an expiring). We'd just need him for filler to balance out and Al for AV trade if we were going for it. Is it Damon you object to or is it more of AV? That fact that your boy AL is involved, I can understand your feelings on it. I (unlike most of the people around) don't have a problem with AV (I think he'd help us over here) although I don't value him as highly as some do (think we should trade picks with Cleveland as well which I definitely would not do). An AL and Petey for AV + Jones (gives us some help in an area it's needed although I admit not the ultimate solution) is something I'd consider, however as I indicated in another post, I think there's some guys who are better out there (and who might be available) who I think we might have a realistic shot at if we were to use the TPE as some have suggested (although there's a huge debate going as to whether or not this is a legitimate possibility).

It's strictly Damon Jones I object to.

His 3pt % matches his FG% because he doesn't take any other shots. He camps at the arc and chucks when completely ignored by the defense enough to allow him to get his unathletic set shot off. Frankly, it wasn't fair to Belinelli to compare them (really, that was just about the flabby arms.) Jones doesn't have ANY tools to help an NBA team other than a set shot which requires him having 3 or 4 feet of space from the nearest defender. He's the ultimate in dead weight, even as an expiring. No thanks. I'm not into aquiring more crap on this team. We're already going to have between 3 to 5 league minimum scrubs hanging around again because of economics. I'm not having a waste of space $4mil guy compounding that problem unless he's comming back with a 40mpg player, and AV can't do that.

The cavs are probably a good destination in that the have a moveable power player in AV and they are likely to value Al's scoring getting us a fair overall price. AV grew on me in this year's postseason. He's playing more basketball and less rugby. I can see him helping for the right price. But not with a boat anchor around his neck. Damon Jones is where I draw the line. Make it a 3 way where someone else eats the dead roster spot, or throw in something else and pry Pavs or West away from them, but no Jones. No way.

You can not get better by adding Damon Jones to your team.

And no, using the TPE is not a legitimate possibility. That TPE was a cost cut. Nothing more.