If melo is traded?

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Now that's something to cosign. Actually made sense too.

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So by that thoery, a team with Darko Milicic as the starting PF, Kwame Brown as the Center, Mike Miller as the SG, Conley as the PG, Gay as the SF, with Warrick, Crittendon, Lowry, and Navarro off the bench should be in the top of the division. I mean they have two 1st picks, a couple more top 5, a top 10, and some mid to late 1st rounders in there, they should be great. It must be all Gay's fault that they were the third worst team in the league.

For Melo to be the one taking all the blame, he has to have full leadership of the team, and have the ball all the time. To me this is the same **** I have always seen from AI fans for the last 12 years, attack the coach, the front office, and every player around AI; while still promoting AI as a great player, leader, and teammate. How does the 23 year old, that does not have the ball in his hands, and has done everything asked of him take all of the blame, while the 32 year old that controls the ball and is a supposed great leader (according to the coaches, and his fans) gets a pass once again?

There are very few fans that are giving AI a free pass. Its pretty obvious that he is no longer rated as favorably as he once was. Too many loosing seasons and too many unmet expectations. However, its kind of hard to pick any single player out on this team and suggest they were so great and dependable that they should be safe from trade considerations.

Hence the over-all trend of everyone in the starting five receiving their fair share of criticism from the fans.

Pretty much everybody wants AC gone.
Pretty much everybody is disappointed in the lack of impact AI has had on Denver's play-off positioning and performance.
Pretty much everybody thinks kenyon is overpaid for what he brings to the team
Pretty much everybody thinks camby is over-rated as a defender and a liability on offense.

The only thing that is odd is the rabid defensiveness critiquing Melo evokes in some fans.

Yes, we can all agree that it would be a bad idea to "build around" a guard in his 30s. But I also think there is some merit in acknowledging there are some fundamental flaws in Melo's game that give pause to anyone seriously considering the likelihood of him leading a team to the finals in the west in the next 3 years. So if the team is in a win now mode as they clearly were when they first traded for AI, it only makes sense to surround him with talent that can compensate for his fundamental weaknesses a player.

In my opinion they have the pieces and he doesn't lack for touches. The problem is they are handicapping themselves by not using those pieces to their full potential and being overly concerned with getting AI and Melo 20 shots a night. The only player on this team that fans should be complaining about their role in the offense is JR. Cause he's the real player being shortchanged by two players getting 40 shots a night with no accountability for how they perform in other aspects of the game.

That said, if the team truly is abandoning their attempt to win now and shifting over to rebuilding than some of you are right, get rid of AI, Camby, and Kenyon. But if the team is trying to win they should shift JR into the starting line-up and try to move Camby for a big man that can score with his back to the basket and defend. Melo should only come into play as a trade piece if they are getting an all star point guard and shawn marion level multi-dimensional forward and there arent very many teams that are going to give that combination of players up for an unproven melo who is quickly picking up a lot of baggage.

[legendarywalton]

Wow, it almost seems like there's a rift between 'Melo fans and AI fans on this board. I never noticed it before...

[JordansBulls]

Bulls trade Deng, Hinrich, Gooden, 2 future 1st for Melo and Nene

Bulls Lineup

PG Rose/Duhon
SG Gordon/Thabo
SF Melo/Nocioni
PF Nene/Tyrus
C Noah/Gray

Actually I would start the lineup like this:

PG Rose/Duhon
SG Gordon/Thabo
SF Melo/Nocioni
PF Tyrus/Noah
C Nene/Gray



Nuggets Lineup
PG Hinrich/Atkins/Carter
SG Iverson/JR Smith
SF Deng/Kleiza
PF Kmart/Gooden/Najera
C Camby/Hunter

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Switch Nene to Kmart and add in TT and Nuggets won't hang up right away. Doubt they'd accept it, but that'd be closer.

[eathy]

denver would probably do that trade...

as long as the future first isn't lottery protected.

[eathy]

He was impacting the game in other ways and developing in to a great focal point for the team before AI was traded here. That killed the growth of his game, along with having a coach who doesn't care anymore.

Sure, if someone offers a deal too good to be true, then yeah, the team should take it. But besides that, keeping Camby and AI over Melo is insane.

This is funny, I thought real franchise player and leader run the team hitw their rules, maybe Denver broght AI also to see if Melo was a real leader, well: Obviously is not otherwise it could have calm down AI...
I agree AI probably is not in the right team even if is a hell of a player (even if some people does not agree), but Denver need much more than Carmelo Anthony, in that case Denver need to become a Pistons type team, good players, good teamate, not stars all stars, a real team.

If people Melo game was improving then it means the guy would have need 2-3 more years to get top for Denver, but not sure they can pass first round still, then sorry but the guy is useless, everybody used to compare him to Lebron and some people still are, lebron brought Cleveland into the finals after 3-4 years with less talent than Melo has around him.
I agree Denver is maybe the most unlucky team regarding injuries but look at the roaster they have.

i don't know why people keep saying that when they're comparing those 2.

i can almost guarantee u that if the Nuggets swapped placed with the Cavs that season, we would make the Finals in that pathetic conference. Infact apart from the Suns (and maybe Mavs), we would've been the closest team to getting a sniff of the Spurs. Look at Lebron's series against the Spurs, and then look at Melo's. Lebron's team mates probably did better then what AI and Camby could do with the exception of Nene... so it wasn't like Melo got better looks on the offensive end, if anything he got more attention so they'd let AI have his 30% shooting field day.

it'd be the same scenario against the Lakers IMO.

what we need is a better coach... a coach who makes EVERY damn game counts. Not unlike Karl whois like oh we'll win this game and this game. We need to win the division and play the lesser seeded teams and avoid the top teams. We have the talent and players (AC is gone now!) to do it and get the job done... but the question is can they? Cmon... aren't you tired of playing the team that ends up being the best of the conferences? Teams like Spurs, Lakers, and the T'Wolves who would've won the ring if the injuries hadn't come.

[Gogo Babaroga]

The Nuggets forward finally received personal assurance from his team that he won't be traded.
"It just shows me that there is loyalty to me," Anthony said.
After Anthony stated Monday that he wanted public assurances the Nuggets wouldn't trade him, the team said it wouldn't make a public statement. But Anthony said he met with Rex Chapman, the Nuggets' vice president of player personnel, and came away convinced he will stay a Nugget.

"We as an organization wanted to support Melo," Karl said."It's been a tough time for him.
"I always kind of knew," Andrews said. "It's just a matter of everybody else knowing."

[almost famous]

Boooo....

[Piston Pete]

How about...

Billups, Prince, McDyess

for

Melo and Martin?


DENVER:
Billups / Atkins
Iverson / Smith
Prince / Kleiza
McDyess / Nene
Camby / Hunter
....plus your pick(s)

DETROIT:
Stuckey / *MLE*
Hamilton / Afflalo
Melo / #29
Martin / Maxiell
Sheed / Amir / Samb

[eathy]

take Melo out.

put in AI or something.