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Bird says Williams "on thin ice" and Tinsley "for sale"

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Re: Bird says Williams "on thin ice" and Tinsley "for sale" 

Post#21 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:58 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Da_James_Gang wrote:I dont see what they could get for jamal with that contract, i think bird should just suck it up and buy him out. What kind of injury did he have last season?

The only thing i can think of is jaric for tinsley if the wolves would go for it. Atleast jaric is solid defensively and can play pg,sg, and sf....... His contract is very similar to tinsley's and both have 3 years left. If the wolves take lopez instead of mayo or move up to get beasley i think the wolves would consider that because they would still be looking for a pg...


I say no to the buy out idea every time unless the guy just can't play. If you buy the guy out his contract still sits there on your cap. Teams are still handicapped by players that they bought out and once he's bought out you can never trade off the contract. Put him at the end of the bench or suspend him but I wouldn't buy him out, I don't see a point, he gets pay'd to play somewhere else? We could move JT for something but it won't be worth much and will be something like Jaric or Jeffries of NYK. If you look at JT as a 3yr contract, deal him for a 2 yr contract who doesn't have the baggage and next year he is expiriing that maybe the best you can hope for. Another Idea would be to combine JT with Shawne but you're still looking at a guy with 2 or 3 yrs left on his deal.



I generally agree with this type of statement.


I think, in general, that buying out a player is the absolute, worst case, scenario. You generally shouldn't buy out a player until you pretty much burn up all avenues, and I don't think that we would do that until about the end of this upcoming season. If we absolutely can't get rid of Tinsley by next offseason.....for anything!!!!....we should buy him out at that point.


However, having a guy on the books while not playing for you for two seasons is a lot different than having him on the books while not playing for you for 3 seasons.
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Re: Bird says Williams "on thin ice" and Tinsley "for sale" 

Post#22 » by joew8302 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:17 am

I just hate going public with things like this. More often than not in builds a rift between a player and management/other players. It shows that Bird's confidence in Williams is about gone, which just sends a bad message all the way around. I feel if you have to make a statement like this just save yourself the breath and get rid of the guy.
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Re: Bird says Williams "on thin ice" and Tinsley "for sale" 

Post#23 » by Indydave » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:52 pm

I do have to say one thing about Bird so far--

He is "singing the right song" IMO ever since he has officially taken the lead of the team from Donnie Walsh-- by hosting the first ever draft party at Conseco, to opening up team workout info to the media, to even making statements like this-- he is certainly saying all the things that the fans want to hear. Let's hope he keeps this momentum up.

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