What happens if Beasley AND Mayo are on the board at #3?

[deeney0]

Seattle wants Beasley. Miami wants value. Seattle will move too much (maybe 4, Green, and Wilcox?) to get Beasley.

[theGreatRC]

I'd wet my pants - literally!

lol I wouldn't go that far!

but I'd probably poop on my neighbor or something

We take Beasley, simple as that. No trading, nothing. Tournaments don't mean ****!

Look at Barkley's college career. He only made the tournament once in three years, and he lost in the first or second round I believe, and he is a top 5 PF of all time.

Judge people by how they play, not by how far they go in dumb college tournaments.(Brewer)

[shrink]

TF21, you obviously dont watch enough of The Simpsons.

You're right, I don't. You know why?

I am so smart, I am so smart! S-M-R-T!

So the caterpillar has emerged from its cocoon, as a shark....with a gun for a mouth.

.. with bees inside it!

[revprodeji]

You'd have a hard time finding any NBA scout or exec who believes Bayless is a better player than Mayo. If Miami really likes Bayless more than Mayo, they would trade down with Seattle.

Bayless does not go top-3. The Bayless work out is for the possible Brand+pick+? for Marion+pick rumor with LAC. In which Mia would take Bayless with the LAC pick.

[deeney0]

Bayless also works if they trade down to #4.

[shrink]

and on a similar note, here's my dream draft:

#3 OJ Mayo
#31 Derrick Rose
#34 Michael Beasley

[revprodeji]

Nice...someone did the college 2k import thing, eh? You forgot the part where Ibaka and Gallinari go undrafted due to anti-euro gm's and we sign them cause mn reminds them of sweden.

[younggunsmn]

Thanks for the scoop Rev. Any word on if we can still get into the 16-21 Range to get our future center after the crap Denver and New Orleans pulled? The Hornets apparently are targeting Hibbert or Ajinca now at 20, so we'll have to move up ahead of them for either.

Philly @ 16 and Washington @ 18 are my favorite possibilities, along with Cleveland @19. We could take on a bad deal from washington and send them our 2nd's.
We could send Philly McCants and our 2nd's for Willie Green and 16, then Philly could still get their PF in Richard Hendrix, Ryan Anderson, or JJ Hickson. If speights and arthur are off the board I could see this.
We could also eat a bad deal from cleveland to go with our 2nd's and/or mccants. They're way over the tax and need money to sign boobie gibson, and 31 and 34 are perfect picks to stash euros with.

Here are my 3 deals:
Min sends McCants, 31, 34
Phi sends Green, 16

Min sends: Walker, McCants, Buckner, 34
Min receives: Wallace, 19

Min sends McCants, Buckner, 31
Min receives: Etan Thomas, 18

Steep prices, but worthy of young starting center.
Jordan, Koufos, Ajinca, Hibbert, I have no preference.

Reasons Kevin Love will not be a Timberwolf (besides the obvious talent gap):
1. Goes directly against what our franchise player Al Jefferson has stated he wants: a legitimate starting center next to him.
2. Memphis is locked in on him at 5, they like JR Giddens at 28, a Mayo tradedown is unlikely to garner anything from them of real value. Also prevents us from getting him in a tradedown to 7 or 8.
3. The front office has been gushing about him way too much (especially a guy who obviously doesn't want him in hoiberg) to make this anything but a smokescreen.

If I had to put up the front office's draft board, this is where I'd put them
(in terms of pick value, trade down/up value , and keeping in mind each player's fit).
1a. Rose
1b. Mayo
1c. Beasley
8. Galinari (with Bogut coming back)
8. Bayless (with Bogut coming back)
10. Lopez (trade up only)
10. Alexander (trade up only)
10. Love (value here as a trade up but still an awful fit)
16. Jordan, Koufos, Ajinca
20. Hibbert, R Lopez,
25. McGee
31. Hardin, Thompson, Jawai,


About Miami's tradedown threats:
1. Keep in mind their single biggest motivation to smokescreen is to keep Chicago from leveraging them into trading up for the player they covet (which by any logic should be beasley). If they say they're sold on Mayo or have a trade in place for him, It keeps Chicago from being able to select Beasley and swap him for Rose and an assett, because the team at 3 (us) would take rose and run.

Look at it logically, Rose would be a terrible fit next to Wade because neither of them can shoot from deep. Having 2 guards who can't shoot from deep and no low post game is a recipe for disaster, as we witnessed from the post-shaq heat last year.

Marion and Beasley are perfect compliments, both can rebound and shoot like crazy, and they are interchangeable as defenders at the 3 and 4 (which will help ease Beasley's defensive "naivety".

Jerryd Bayless will go either at 4 or6 (my gut says 4). The heat would be stuck with westbrook (no shot), gordon (not a pg) or, unlikely, galinari at 7.

Elton Brand is coming off major acl surgery. No one thinks that's a red flag? His entire game was based on speed and quickness. He's quite a risk. If the heat wanted they could probably swap marion for him straight up.

Any trade with the clippers would be 2 + blount+banks+filler for 7 and brand.
WHY BRAND WHEN THEY WANT BOOZER NEXT OFFSEASON? Two 6'8 post players, one coming off a torn acl? The player they get at 7 is going to be a big damn downgrade from beasley, i'll tell you that.

If riley really dislikes beasley that much (which i really doubt), mayo and bayless make sense as players to target because they both shoot well and can handle the point. But they will likely have to deal with us or seattle to get either. Seattle makes more sense because of their boatload of draft picks this year and next. If there is really a deal in place, I'd have to believe it is with seattle, for bayless, and involving at least 24 and the unprotected 2010 suns pick coming to miami, along with blount's deal going out to seattle.

The only way we can screw this up is by not taking one of beasley, rose, or mayo.
The only player I could stomach seeing come here in a trade down is Bogut, and I just don't see that happening.

What about Marc Gasol for 31 or 34? That would be interesting.

[revprodeji]

Sorry Young, I made a reply last night but the net was bugging out on me.

According to multiple public an private sources we have deals set up if we want to move back into the first round. Not sure who or how high. Not sure if we will take them even. It is all based on our board and who is available. No point in moving up for a guy when he and another guy you like, could fall right into your lap. Remember, the 31st has a bit of value right now with the euro situation. There are a ton of center prospects. Only a couple that could play rotation minutes right now (off the top of my head late 1st-early 2nd would be Hibbert-Hardin, Lopez if he falls--the rest need time)

You numbered your love response. I will do the same.
1.) This statement is wrong. Jefferson simply said he wanted another big body to help him in the paint. Jefferson (and the team) improved a ton when we had a warm-body Ratliff at the 5. Jefferson just needs someone to help him. Love is a banger. He would fit perfectly with Jefferson. That is probably the main reason people are looking at him there.
2.) Most mocks feel this way. The issue is that we do not know how memphis feels about mayo/beasley. Also there are serious rumors Mem might just deal the pick for a decent guy (lee) and cap relief.
3.) The front office has been pretty similar with rose/beas/mayo/love/lopez/gallinari. If anything I have heard more Mayo from Hoiberg and Gallinari from Mchale. The local media loves him so much and that is some of the overexposure you are seeing. Hoiberg has no issue with love. He just really, really, really likes Mayo.