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Post#101 » by Serpo » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:53 pm

mack69 wrote:What is going on here!!!!!!!!!

Did this mean that league is not high on RJ?

This all we can get for who scored 20+ last season.


RJ's not that good when he's scoring that much . He sucks when he's asked to do that much.
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Post#102 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:02 pm

M.Balla wrote:To the american teen with reading comprehension problems: I was talking about the Melo-Jefferson swap.


Oh ten points off for unoriginality. I mean...well played in the stalker ex-girlfriend role, but so unoriginal.

Uh...Meredith? No one on this board ever talked of a Jefferson for Melo straight swap. Everyone here responded to rumors circulating on that alone. You were on your own planet there, Margaret.

http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/ ... ets/269493
http://www.denverstiffs.com/2008/05/pos ... -best.html
http://origin.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_9228144
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/8372749
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/50462
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post ... =nba,83644
http://slamonline.com/online/2008/05/ne ... elo-trade/
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/vi ... p?t=413935
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/ ... ugget.html
http://njmg.typepad.com/zzone/2008/05/m ... -talk.html

Now you see...pay a bit more attention next time. You don't want to disgrace that preschool diploma.
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Post#103 » by NjNeTs1029 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:02 pm

with the 10th pick in the NBA draft the New Jersey Nets select Joe Alexander from West Virginia University

6'8 with a 6'10 wingspan and he can jump out of the gym. Blocks shots too.

return of the run n gun nets?
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Post#104 » by M.Balla » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:12 pm

Okay Zac Efron, more power for me... So RJ+KVH expiring+filler vs Melo-Camby...

So you dreamt about Melo-Camby and all you get is Yi. Next year rookie class is said to be a weak class, have fun with your lottery pick...

Now full circle, back to the first post... LOL
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Post#105 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:20 pm

M.Balla wrote:Okay Zac Efron, more power for me... So RJ+KVH expiring+filler vs Melo-Camby...

So you dreamt about Melo-Camby and all you get is Yi.


Who here said the Melo-Camby to the Nets trade was realistic? Seriously, man...just stop. I'm beginning to feel sorry for you.

Next year rookie class is said to be a weak class, have fun with your lottery pick...


And you'll have a lower pick after being swept again in the playoffs. We're actually in a better situation future wise.

Now full circle, back to the first post... LOL


Exactly. Thank you for proving my first point over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over.
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Post#106 » by M.Balla » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:28 pm

Richie Rich wrote:Who here said the Melo-Camby to the Nets trade was realistic?


You tried to convince us
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=789895&start=45

(even thought I must give it to you, that you said that it would be a weird trade for us)
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Post#107 » by Serpo » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:30 pm

The only way the Nuggest where going to trade Melo is if they really wanted to get rid of him and wanted to start from the ground again .
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Post#108 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:37 pm

M.Balla wrote:
Richie Rich wrote:Who here said the Melo-Camby to the Nets trade was realistic?


You tried to convince us
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=789895&start=45

(even thought I must give it to you, that you said that it would be a weird trade for us)


I didn't try convincing. I corrected people who were wrong on certain things. RJ's position and medical history, Marcus's situation, and Denver's only possible reasoning I could think of the possibility of that trade, which was finances. Everyone in that thread was also responding to those articles I posted along with the same rumors.

I also said before, even in this thread, it wouldn't be based on talent for talent, but more of a financial relief for Denver.
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Post#109 » by HotShots » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:38 pm

There better be at least a pick swap 8 & 10. I hate to see RJ go. I hope we get the LA Simmons. I like him alot on LA. Solid hard worker. Did it all 3's rebounds. Maybe he'll be back. Yi will definately be a solid player but all star level not so sure about that.


This trade locks us up for Joe Alexander at 10. :clap:
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Post#110 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:39 pm

HotShots wrote:There better be at least a pick swap 8 & 10.


There were no picks involved in the trade.

This trade locks us up for Joe Alexander at 10. :clap:


I hope.
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Post#111 » by dacher » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:51 pm

I'm also wondering what it means for Krstic. I don't think it's a given he'll resign, if he gets a more lucrative offer in Europe -- which I think is certainly possible given current currency and economic conditions. Plus the transitional state of the Nets team. I can't know how strong his relationship is with management, teammates and his agent, which will all come into it.
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Post#112 » by Serpo » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:59 pm

Krstic's developed more into a Center then a PF don't think this means anything for Nenad . Yi , Boone and SWill are 2 offensive and 2 defensive minded players . One of each category is PF and one Center . Looks fine to me . Doubt we'll pick a big now unless we play to Yi at SF .
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Post#113 » by okanoho » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:46 am

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Post#114 » by halfHAVOC » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:58 am

im so sad......................

now my two fav teams will be in the same conference.(gotta support RJ's team)
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Post#115 » by jessice » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:39 am

jerseyjac wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:Hmm...from a business perspective, this was a good trade for the Nets. Chinese market, cutting costs...

However, from a fan's perspective...it's really hard to see RJ go (I'm more of an RJ fan than VC). Yes, I had stated before that we would be trading our big contracts away to rebuild starting with RJ because of VC's contract. In the end though, any Nets fan had to realize we couldn't go far with this team and with our current financial situation, couldn't build around this team. Still, I'm a bit uneasy about this. Do I think we could've gotten more with RJ? Maybe, but like I said...a team in rebuilding wants two of three here...young talent, expirings, and 1sts. Yes, we finally have direction on what we're going to do, but I'm on the fence on Yi. Call me in six months for an evaluation and another year or two to call this trade great or horrible. Sorry, kind of rambling.


pretty much sums it up...I just see RJ's market value as more...we're banking on potential here...I see Yi's potential/skills...but I also see Wang Zhizhi...again, another possbile trade w. Yi involved or is he really part of our future...

note: my comparison is just that...Yi obviously could have twice or 3 times the career of Zhizhi...


Yi would never be WZZ! Yi can D what WZZ can not.
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Post#116 » by Pugsley_2491 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:25 am

M.Balla wrote:Dont know about the lotto... Gallinari and Yi are busts. You can quote me, next year, in two years, whenever, mark my words. BUSTS.

And NetsForce, knowing you as I know you, you have probably bashed Yi right and left.

To the american teen with reading comprehension problems: I was talking about the Melo-Jefferson swap. That means, that you trade Carmelo straight up for Richard Jefferson. Camby would probably be stealing rebounds from teamates or letting his man take open jumpshooters, but he is not on the Melo-Jefferson swap. There's no Camby on it.

Denver has a lot of problems, I'll give you that. They don't have a pick... but what? We didn't sell it for cash, we will get the pick on another year. Nobody can contribute right away, Karl wouldn't play a rookie, and we're in "Win-Mode" now, so we save the pick for the next year (or the year after, or the year after...) where we maybe will have to rebuild.

And damn, if your direction is Gallinari and Yi:
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hey i think i see AI and karl in the window with Melo driving the bus drunk
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Post#117 » by Pedro Pistolas » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:54 am

Jefferson was grossly overrated on this board... I never thought he was ever a amazing talented player..... dude avg 20 + points this season because Frank geared his offense towards him...

I remember those HORRIBLE RJ shooting nights when he couldn't hit anything.... not even gimme layups/floaters....
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Post#118 » by pennyliu123 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:02 am

Interesting trading...the Bucks like it because they get a very good player, and the Nets will get room for LBJ or someone like that after next season, and the Nets will have a whole season to train all the young guys and decide which ones should be in this team. Not a bad trade for both teams, I can say.

As a Chinese, I hope Yi will improve himself here and have fun.
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Post#119 » by 60cent » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:11 am

Rich Rane wrote: In the end though, any Nets fan had to realize we couldn't go far with this team and with our current financial situation, couldn't build around this team.



A very good point.


Rich Rane wrote:but like I said...a team in rebuilding wants two of three here...young talent, expirings, and 1sts.



True but RJ isn't that type of player that can get those three needs back.


Overall, Nets fans, just be happy of what we've got in return. Yi , as i have posted before (i even made a thread about him), will be a stud. I kinda really don't understand on why the Bucks gave him up that easily. It's not really a question of why we just gave up RJ like that (who doesn't rebound a lot or defend better, when we all know he can do better), it's actually why the Bucks gave up Yi this early.
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Post#120 » by aznkillabeezZz » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:27 am

coool im a YI fan i hope that he improves in his 2nd season:D

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