Blazer's Bandwaggoners

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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#101 » by Don Draper » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:12 am

Charlie78 wrote:I love how you bash me for not reading your posts (which I did) then you ignore everything i said in mine and admit you didnt understand it. That is because I wrote in a rational reasoned manner while you continue to say your not a hater while spewing hate. I said i expect some of them to leave for more money, and in fact stated that jones is going to do exactly that this year. I seriously think you may be delusional. But its cool you can come to the parade.


Wow. Do you realized I responded to every single one of your responses. Please go back to page 6 and look.

Secondly, bashing = slander. How have I bashed you? All I was implying was I didnt understand the last sentence you wrote. Stop being sensitive.
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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#102 » by dockingsched » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:14 am

SabasRevenge! wrote:
dcash4 wrote:unless oden becomes an A level player, they aren't going to jump into the league's elite. they have a couple of B level players (Roy, Aldridge), and a bunch of average players who happen to be young.


I'm just curious - Where are Gasol and Odom on your scale? Does it go from A to F or A to Z? Are there pluses and minuses?

How many A players did Detroit have when they squashed the 4-peat?


Is there any variation between the "average" players who "happen to be young?" I hear this all the time about Portland's players. They're all overrated and the only good thing about them is they're young. Every one of them except for the big 3. They're all role players and backups. Is there any hope for any of them or are they all the same?

Is Steve Blake young? Joel Przybilla? If they're young and average, will they stay that way? Will they improve? Will they age?

When does one become an A player? What's the winning alpha combination? How many A's do you need? How many B's?

I sure hope Oden gets an A so we can win! He's taking classes at OSU, will that help his grade?

Please help me. Thanks.


my comment was simple and to the point. you need an elite superstar to win. kobe, kg, shaq, duncan, jordan, olajuwon. you can harp on an exception to the rule but thats just a waste of time. if oden becomes that elite superstar, then the discussion of the blazers becoming a title contender can me made. u can an A sheer number of questions though, and effort.
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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#103 » by Don Draper » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:14 am

SabasRevenge! wrote:
obinna wrote:McCarthyism.


God, I almost spit out my dinner!


Then learn how to swallow. No homo.
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Post#104 » by ChargerMan » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:18 am

Roy is on his way to being an elite player and I believe even if Oden develops into a dominant big man Roy will still lead the Blazers
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Post#105 » by SabasRevenge! » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:21 am

dcash4 wrote:my comment was simple and to the point. you need an elite superstar to win. kobe, kg, shaq, duncan, jordan, olajuwon. you can harp on an exception to the rule but thats just a waste of time. if oden becomes that elite superstar, then the discussion of the blazers becoming a title contender can me made. u can an A sheer number of questions though, and effort.


Thanks for the A! If pluses and minuses are allowed, how many B+ players would it take to win a title? If it's possible (Detroit), then it's not a waste of time. If Roy becomes an elite superstar can we have this discussion? How would you compare him to D-Wade?

SabasRevenge! wrote:Is there any variation between the "average" players who "happen to be young?" I hear this all the time about Portland's players. They're all overrated and the only good thing about them is they're young. Every one of them except for the big 3. They're all role players and backups. Is there any hope for any of them or are they all the same?


I was really interested to hear what you think about this. Care to tell me more about the "average players who happen to be young" you were talking about?




obinna wrote:
SabasRevenge! wrote:
obinna wrote:McCarthyism.


God, I almost spit out my dinner!


Then learn how to swallow. No homo.


From McCarthyism to homophobia. Lame. Here at the dinner table, we were hoping for more McCarthyism. What's wrong with homo?
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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#106 » by dockingsched » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:23 am

ChargerMan wrote:Roy is on his way to being an elite player and I believe even if Oden develops into a dominant big man Roy will still lead the Blazers



yeah, i think roy has a legit chance to jump into that elite level. jumping into that elite level is such a huge leap though that nothing is guaranteed.
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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#107 » by Don Draper » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:38 am

dcash4 wrote:
From McCarthyism to homophobia. Lame. Here at the dinner table, we were hoping for more McCarthyism. What's wrong with homo?


1) What lame about talking about McCarthyism?
2) No homo is an expression. There is nothing homophobic about it.
3) Why are you hoping for more McCarthyism?
4) Your post totally lost me.
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Post#108 » by sabi » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:21 am

Let me just say I don't agree with the assertion that our team's fortune relies solely on the success of one player, which you all say is Greg Oden. If you look at our roster objectively, you'll notice how deep it is down to the last player on the bench. Blake and Pryzbilla could be productive role players on any team in the League coming off the bench, and with our depth chart, they're projected to our 8th and 9th guy somewhere down the line.
We have such a deep team that we do not depend on one player to carry us to the playoffs. That would be like comparing Portland's dependency on Oden to Cleveland's dependency on Lebron or Boston's dependency on Pierce or Garnett. Oden is a player that could potentially earn us several rings down the line, but we're not a treadmill team without him either.
Someone said how the rest of our team is basically two B players and the rest role players. I don't really have to disagree with that to make my point because our two B players just finished there Sophomore season and will only get better. How many teams have multiple players that young that you could label them as B players right now?
The way I see it we had a .500 record last season an we're adding 3 top rookies this year all with potential to be B players as well and one extra special one with the potential to be an A+ player. So I see why you're hating on this team since it's not yours.
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Post#109 » by Don Draper » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:33 am

sabi wrote:Let me just say I don't agree with the assertion that our team's fortune relies solely on the success of one player, which you all say is Greg Oden. If you look at our roster objectively, you'll notice how deep it is down to the last player on the bench. Blake and Pryzbilla could be productive role players on any team in the League coming off the bench, and with our depth chart, they're projected to our 8th and 9th guy somewhere down the line.
We have such a deep team that we do not depend on one player to carry us to the playoffs. That would be like comparing Portland's dependency on Oden to Cleveland's dependency on Lebron or Boston's dependency on Pierce or Garnett. Oden is a player that could potentially earn us several rings down the line, but we're not a treadmill team without him either.
Someone said how the rest of our team is basically two B players and the rest role players. I don't really have to disagree with that to make my point because our two B players just finished there Sophomore season and will only get better. How many teams have multiple players that young that you could label them as B players right now?
The way I see it we had a .500 record last season an we're adding 3 top rookies this year all with potential to be B players as well and one extra special one with the potential to be an A+ player. So I see why you're hating on this team since it's not yours.


Can someone please show me an instance where I hated on the Blazers? I keep hearing this even though I have NEVER hated on them, the only thing I said was the "dynasty" predictions were premature. So I guess not agreeing is hating?
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Post#110 » by EGame » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:08 am

Well lets see, basically in your first post you claim that Oden and Bayless are overrated and that the Blazers being a dynasty or even just getting 1 championship is "bleak." If you care to see, most Blazer fans think that claiming we are a dynasty is very premature, so we are agreeing with you, which is why this thread was terrible in the first place. Also, you keep saying how "so and so sucks" on the Blazers. You probably think Roy and Aldridge suck too, right? All you care to say is how the Blazers will all be broken up and that we won't be able to sign everyone. You obviously know very little about the team and owner. Now if there is a case where someone is unhappy, then yes, obviously he will be gone, but the way you post you think that will be a for sure thing, someone will be unhappy. Sorry, you cannot predict the future. I honestly have not seen you post one good thing about the Blazers to back up your claim that you "like" them or whatever.
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Post#111 » by blazersmaniac8 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:11 am

obinna your hate is evident when you say stuff that is way out there or not true just to put portland down. Saying they couldn't keep their players is one of them. When you said 'allen won't spend his money like that' someone responded with the fact that he has done it before. You also bring up how players will want to leave portland when that could happen with ANY team even though as stated it's alot less likely since we can pay them better/will be in the playoffs year in and year out (at the very least). Honestly ur hate is to easy to see and your doing a bad time at hiding it but keep it up; it's entertaining :D
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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#112 » by Don Draper » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:25 am

1) Greg Oden is coming off a major surgery

2) Bayless is NOT a PG. If you saw him at Arizona trying to run the point guard when Wise got hurt you should know this.

3) Assuming they keep all those players and they are as good as everyone says they are, by the time they are mature it is going to be time to resign all of them

4) Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Al Jefferson, Rodney Stuckey, Lebron James, and Dwayne Wade all still play in the NBA last time I checked.

This infatuation with potential disgusts me.


You guys must be dyslexic. The above is my first post. HOW AM I BASHING THE BLAZERS? This is in complete reference to the dynasty talk. 1 month ago I said Portland was a super talented team. The problem is that nobody is allowed to disagree.

Well lets see, basically in your first post you claim that Oden and Bayless are overrated and that the Blazers being a dynasty or even just getting 1 championship is "bleak."


Where did I ever say this? Goodness this is absurd. Please stop putting words into my mouth.

obinna your hate is evident when you say stuff that is way out there or not true just to put portland down. Saying they couldn't keep their players is one of them. When you said 'allen won't spend his money like that' someone responded with the fact that he has done it before.


When did I say Allen won't spend his money? So saying the Blazers can't keep all their players is hate?
I have no problem being called out as long as you use stuff I actually said. But you guys are inventing things or twisting things I post to make it seem like hating.

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Post#113 » by EGame » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:35 am

Okay, instead of saying Oden is coming off a major surgery, till me honestly what you think he will become. Will he be as dominant as people think he can be, or will he be a bust? Also, sorry for me not caring to notice your posts 1 month ago. I was MIA for awhile. Also, this thread still sucks, I have stated already, most Blazer fans agree with you about the dynasty crap, so why did you feel you needed to post this in the first place? That is exactly why you show hate, there was no reason to post this thread. Also, number 3 on your first post only tells me that you did say we cannot afford them, so obviously I am calling you out on something you actually said or else you really wouldn't have posted #3.

Honestly, I am done with this thread, I have said countless times I (and most Blazer fans) agree the dynasty talk is premature. When you started this thread, most Blazer fans can easily take this as a bash thread because I still have yet to see any positive things posted about the Blazers from you. This argument is really not worth it.
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Re: Blazer's Bandwaggoners 

Post#114 » by Pattycakes » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:03 am

"This infatuation with potential disgusts me.

Rodney Stuckey is as good as any of those "prospects" these bandwaggoners are salivating over.

Goes on to...My point in adding Stuckey was not he is as good as those players

How am I bitter when my team is better than them?


I watched Bayless extensively at Arizona. He is not that good. He cannot defend. He cannot run PG. He is at most Jason Terry. There is a reason he dropped so much in 2 months.

Good luck resigning all those "potential stars" and getting them to stick around for limited minutes.

I'm not whining because my Rockets are still way better, and even if they weren't I wouldn't care."

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"They WON'T be able to pay everyone" -Flat out incorrect, they have the owner, they have the money.




"Again if you would read post you would realize I am far from a hater because at least a month ago I said the Blazers had talent" Noone cares what you said a month ago. You started a thread NOW that actually has little to do with your knowledge on our team, just be disgusted that they're getting so much attention.

If you wanted to make a point that the dynasty talk was premature, then use your words like a big boy, but falsifying information about the team and its future and making huge blatant hate remarks at the players sort of tends to carry connotations of its own.

Actually read my post. Think. Think about what you say. GOOD. Now post.
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