Ron Being Ron...

[Truthiracy]

And why did they censor the word God?

[shortodom]

he knew he wasn't gettin more money from another team so he stayed. now that his money is in the bank he wants out. he obviously planned it

[Smills91]

Wow...way to overreact.

[SacTown Kings]

And why did they censor the word God?

That what I was wondering. So you can't even type the word God now, what is this country coming to? I am not even religous and I think it is ridiculous. But that's another topic.

I think Ron thought he was going to get a long term deal/extension. Petrie said he had a candid discussion with Ron. I bet he told Ron that he was going trade him. Now Ron is upset because not only will he not get his extension but he doesn't get to pick where he goes. If he opted out he would of at least got to pick where he wanted to go.

[SacKingZZZ]

In an e-mail to ESPN.com, Ron Artest said he regrets not opting out of his contract by the June 30 deadline.
The backstory here involves a meeting the small forward had this morning with Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie and Artest's agent, Mark Stevens. It appears that Artest was under the impression that there was a high likelihood the Kings would discuss his eventual signing to a long-term extension. But after numerous sources have said for months that such a move was highly unlikely, Artest and Stevens had continued to talk as if it was a strong possibility.
Petrie said in a phone interview minutes ago that he had a "candid" conversation with Artest but that "he wasn't too inclined to (say) much further than that."
Stevens, who was unaware of Artest's comments, said "I'm not even near a TV, so I can't even respond to something I haven't seen....Whatever his reasons for feeling that way is, well we'll just see. I'm not going to respond to it." - Sam Amick

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sp ... 13648.html

Geoff still has a brain!!! Whew, hopefully this situation is taken care of in short order.

Hate to say I told you so, but....

[UKF]

Ron will be on the radio in minutes...

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[KingInExile]

And why did they censor the word God?

That what I was wondering. So you can't even type the word God now, what is this country coming to? I am not even religous and I think it is ridiculous. But that's another topic.

I'm pretty sure it was a typo (happens a lot in the wiretap). The word God is not censored here.

[SacKingZZZ]

Ron will be on the radio in minutes...

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Damage control?

[BMiller52]

Ron will be on the radio in minutes...

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Damage control?

Nah, well maybe. I know you've continually said he has a problem with losing and a rebuild and etc. but what he said was the total opposite. He wants to stick around because he likes his teammates and stuff, and he wants to stay here. He just wants to be here long term and he was frustrated he wasn't given a commitment. But he said he would play out the season because the stuff he has a problem with is just business, and he would still like to be here long term, and he meant that he made a mistake by losing all his leverage. Like now he has no control where he'll play.

Everyone is taking this like it's a trade demand or something and he hates the team, but in reality it's the exact opposite. I don't think I've ever seen someone ripped so much for wanting to stay on a team in my life

[UKF]

Nah, well maybe. I know you've continually said he has a problem with losing and a rebuild and etc. but what he said was the total opposite. He wants to stick around because he likes his teammates and stuff, and he wants to stay here. He just wants to be here long term and he was frustrated he wasn't given a commitment. But he said he would play out the season because the stuff he has a problem with is just business, and he would still like to be here long term, and he meant that he made a mistake by losing all his leverage. Like now he has no control where he'll play.

Everyone is taking this like it's a trade demand or something and he hates the team, but in reality it's the exact opposite. I don't think I've ever seen someone ripped so much for wanting to stay on a team in my life

He made it seem as though that is what it was. He still made a mistake for coming out and telling ESPN. Why would he need to tell them that in the first place? It was dumb on his part, and he admited that.

They also said that he, his agent, and the Kings heald a meeting. Carmichaeldave made it seem as if they told him he would not be here in the near future. Ron didn't want to comment on that, but hopefully dave is right.

[SacKingZZZ]

Ron will be on the radio in minutes...

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Damage control?

Nah, well maybe. I know you've continually said he has a problem with losing and a rebuild and etc. but what he said was the total opposite. He wants to stick around because he likes his teammates and stuff, and he wants to stay here. He just wants to be here long term and he was frustrated he wasn't given a commitment. But he said he would play out the season because the stuff he has a problem with is just business, and he would still like to be here long term, and he meant that he made a mistake by losing all his leverage. Like now he has no control where he'll play.

Everyone is taking this like it's a trade demand or something and he hates the team, but in reality it's the exact opposite. I don't think I've ever seen someone ripped so much for wanting to stay on a team in my life

No, but it's an absolute sign that the Kings have no interest in keeping him long term. If the multiple "almost" trades weren't enough of a clue, maybe this is. Mark my words, the trade talk will come next. Now of course maybe Ron won't go that route because he doesn't want to piss off the team that has his Bird rights but there will be more than a few things that will come into play.

Ron is still in the mode of just trying to get "that" contract. But the real deal put up or shut up time is coming, and the indications given thusfar are not promising for Ron getting an extension or a long term contract from the team that can pay him the most. I contend that it would be a huge mistake for us to be the team that does give him a long term deal. Now if I was the new and improved Clippers, or the Spurs, or the Lakers, sure it wouldn't be a problem. Ron could put them over the top and get you a few rings. Then it would all be worth it and more. If Ron could do that for us then it would be a no brainer, we'd have locked him up into a deal a long time ago. Now sure, we can all say "well in 2010 we could be there and add this and that to a team with Ron Artest" but the reality is, if we re-sign Ron there goes a good portion of our cap space, and not only that but it's way too uncertain of a plan at this point. Once Ron is signed long term, depending on the monetary amount, he becomes completely value-less to all but the team that re-signed him to that contract.

[BMiller52]

Nah, well maybe. I know you've continually said he has a problem with losing and a rebuild and etc. but what he said was the total opposite. He wants to stick around because he likes his teammates and stuff, and he wants to stay here. He just wants to be here long term and he was frustrated he wasn't given a commitment. But he said he would play out the season because the stuff he has a problem with is just business, and he would still like to be here long term, and he meant that he made a mistake by losing all his leverage. Like now he has no control where he'll play.

Everyone is taking this like it's a trade demand or something and he hates the team, but in reality it's the exact opposite. I don't think I've ever seen someone ripped so much for wanting to stay on a team in my life

He made it seem as though that is what it was. He still made a mistake for coming out and telling ESPN. Why would he need to tell them that in the first place? It was dumb on his part, and he admited that.

They also said that he, his agent, and the Kings heald a meeting. Carmichaeldave made it seem as if they told him he would not be here in the near future. Ron didn't want to comment on that, but hopefully dave is right.

lol I can personally say that's not what was said in the meeting. They didn't tell him he'd be traded(they might do that now though).

This problem is getting blown out of proportion, he wants to stay here, and I don't know how the Kings feel about this whole outburst, but I can say I hope he's still here 2 years from now. I like him as a player and I think he makes this team better and I think this team is being underrated. That is my feelings on the matter and until something else develops they aren't going to change.

[UKF]

Nah, well maybe. I know you've continually said he has a problem with losing and a rebuild and etc. but what he said was the total opposite. He wants to stick around because he likes his teammates and stuff, and he wants to stay here. He just wants to be here long term and he was frustrated he wasn't given a commitment. But he said he would play out the season because the stuff he has a problem with is just business, and he would still like to be here long term, and he meant that he made a mistake by losing all his leverage. Like now he has no control where he'll play.

Everyone is taking this like it's a trade demand or something and he hates the team, but in reality it's the exact opposite. I don't think I've ever seen someone ripped so much for wanting to stay on a team in my life

He made it seem as though that is what it was. He still made a mistake for coming out and telling ESPN. Why would he need to tell them that in the first place? It was dumb on his part, and he admited that.

They also said that he, his agent, and the Kings heald a meeting. Carmichaeldave made it seem as if they told him he would not be here in the near future. Ron didn't want to comment on that, but hopefully dave is right.

lol I can personally say that's not what was said in the meeting. They didn't tell him he'd be traded(they might do that now though).

This problem is getting blown out of proportion, he wants to stay here, and I don't know how the Kings feel about this whole outburst, but I can say I hope he's still here 2 years from now. I like him as a player and I think he makes this team better and I think this team is being underrated. That is my feelings on the matter and until something else develops they aren't going to change.

I said that he wouldnt be here in the near future, I didn't say they would trade him. But I do expect/hope that a trade does occur.

As for him being here two years from now. I don't see how that happens. His contract is up after this year, and he won't be signing a contract at the end of this year. Which was basicly what I think Ron was told in this meeting he had this afternoon with Geoff and the Kings staff.

[SacKingZZZ]

Nah, well maybe. I know you've continually said he has a problem with losing and a rebuild and etc. but what he said was the total opposite. He wants to stick around because he likes his teammates and stuff, and he wants to stay here. He just wants to be here long term and he was frustrated he wasn't given a commitment. But he said he would play out the season because the stuff he has a problem with is just business, and he would still like to be here long term, and he meant that he made a mistake by losing all his leverage. Like now he has no control where he'll play.

Everyone is taking this like it's a trade demand or something and he hates the team, but in reality it's the exact opposite. I don't think I've ever seen someone ripped so much for wanting to stay on a team in my life

He made it seem as though that is what it was. He still made a mistake for coming out and telling ESPN. Why would he need to tell them that in the first place? It was dumb on his part, and he admited that.

They also said that he, his agent, and the Kings heald a meeting. Carmichaeldave made it seem as if they told him he would not be here in the near future. Ron didn't want to comment on that, but hopefully dave is right.

lol I can personally say that's not what was said in the meeting. They didn't tell him he'd be traded(they might do that now though).

This problem is getting blown out of proportion, he wants to stay here, and I don't know how the Kings feel about this whole outburst, but I can say I hope he's still here 2 years from now. I like him as a player and I think he makes this team better and I think this team is being underrated. That is my feelings on the matter and until something else develops they aren't going to change.

Well then just about the entire rest of the team needs to go because it isn't even remotely the style of team you should put around a player like Ron Artest.

[UKF]

^WORD

[KF10]

Is it likely that we trade Ron or let him expire? Part of the reason why I kinda feel that we will let Ron walk at the end of the year because the Maloofs want this team still competitive. So, keeping Ron for a year will significantly be an improvement (in terms of team performance) rather then trading him.

That's another way to see things. (Well that's not my definite opinion anyways. Just throwing it out there)

[pillwenney]

Signing Ron long term doesn't change what our cap situation will be unless we keep Salmons, considering Salmons' deal will be about half of Ron's.

Anyway, this isn't damage control, it's just clarification on his part. The guy just wants a place to be long term, which is pretty understandable.

[chriswebb86]

I am really curious what happens with Artest now. I think there are a lot of teams out there that may be contending this year, which could use him.

[VeeJay24]

Now, I said Ron should've been traded all along and if you had done that this wouldn't be an issue.

In defense of Artest, seeing Davis & Brand then Maggette most likely going to the Spurs. He wants a long term deal and a chance to win.

Plus, the Kings are really giving out conflicting signals. I mean you sign Udrih to a 5 yr. deal. What is Artest supposed to think? Of course he would go in there thinking long term. I just think the Kings should've been completely rebuilding. That means no 5 yr. deal for Udrih.

Now, I think he has to be traded sooner than later. His anger right now could be a dangerous thing for these young guys............

[sacking123]

I may have missed something, but I haven't detected "anger" in anything Artest has said.
He has played the "being a good little boy" for quite a while now and IMO you will see that, in the end result it will benifit both Ron and the Kings, whichever way it goes.