GM: Kevin Love = next Shelden Williams?

[TMo519]

The comparison of Love to Williams is a joke, yes. I'm pretty sure this guy is mainly just talking about impact, which Shelden has had none really. Let's face it, with any prospect, he could bomb. More think Love is more apt to bombing than Mayo, which I kinda agree with. But I think both will end up being good players.

[horaceworthy]

2. No one disputes that Mayo is a better prospect then Love.

I dispute that

So does just about every one of the evaluators that look at things from a more statistical bent. Most of them had Love rated as the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft, and didn't seem to think too highly of Mayo.

[prefuse73]

I have actually heard the opposite...mayo is more of a boom-bust and love is a boom - solid, if that makes sense. The Williams comparison is ridiculous... I like Al Horford with a jump shot and passing ability.

[Devilzsidewalk]

there comes a point when your game is just too well rounded and you have too many skills to fail, and I think Love has reached that point.

[TrentTuckerForever]

From David Thorpe's chat on ESPN.com -

Shawn (Rochester, MN): Hi David. Kevin Love will likely have a similar career to _____? I didn't watch the NBA during Wes Unseld's time; someone recent?

David Thorpe: (12:43 PM ET ) Brad Miller.

Miller is listed as two inches taller than Love, but Love's standing reach (which is more important that just height) is 8'10" listed as on DraftExpress. That's the same as Ronnie Turiaf and Joachim Noah, and a half-inch better than Troy Murphy. Noah is a superior athlete to Love, but Turiaf and Murphy are effective NBA players without being super athletic, and I would argue that Love is more skilled as a 19 year old than either of them.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Brad Miller? Maybe in his rookie year. By year 5, lets talk Bill Walton.

Oh yes I did go there.

[TrentTuckerForever]

^A follow up... Al Jefferson's standing reach is 9'2", not elite but the same as Tyson Chander and LaMarcus Alderidge. Kind of an interesting page:

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... s=5&sort=6

Anyway, so even though he's about the same size, Sheldon Williams is less skilled, less athletic, and was older when he was drafted than Love. On the other hand, he does have a good nickname ("The Landlord.")

[Carpe Diem]

Ok, overstated. The experts see Mayo as a better prospect then Love. Those who are against the trade, tend to view it merely in terms of Love and Mayo. Those who like the trade tend to see it as Mayo and baggage for Love, Miller, and one year less contract Jaric/Cardinal. There may be a few onliners who dispute Mayo as having higher potential, but they are certainly in the minority. I'd be inclined to state that Love fits in Minnesota better then Mayo, but in terms of superstar potential, Mayo clearly has the "it" potential.

As far as Love not being an athelete, I'd check out this thread.

http://www.mnsportsfans.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=22718


One point or topic that hasn't been made, is Mayo better then Miller's 16/7/3? If so, by how much? And does Love make up that difference? Granted, there is an age differential but it is a different way of viewing the deal and factoring in the historical record, proven commodity vs. potential.......where does that leave us?

[TrentTuckerForever]

One point or topic that hasn't been made, is Mayo better then Miller's 16/7/3? If so, by how much? And does Love make up that difference? Granted, there is an age differential but it is a different way of viewing the deal and factoring in the historical record, proven commodity vs. potential.......where does that leave us?

Unless Mayo turns out to be Kobe, I'd rather have the 16/7/3 statline you list above alongside Big Al. And Mayo won't be Kobe... maybe he'll be Brandon Roy or Steve Francis (and I mean that as a complement - the good Steve Francis, in the early Houston days.)

Mayo just doesn't project as a future MVP or scoring champ. If he did, he would have been drafted #1 or #2, like Kevin Durant was last year.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Ok, overstated. The experts see Mayo as a better prospect then Love.

I'm an expert and Love is a better prospect.


don't quote this post because I want to go back and edit in the future just in case I'm wrong.

[funkatron101]

I think Love has more bust potential, but Mayo is more replaceable. If that makes any sense.

Scoring guards (which I think is Mayo's low end potential) are a dime a dozen, and there seems to be a good stock of them coming out of each draft.

[Gopherguy]

Kevin Love 6' 7.75" 6' 9.5" 255 6' 11.25" 8' 10" 12.9 29.5 35.0 18 11.17 3.22 NA 5
Shelden Williams 6' 7.5" 6' 8.5" 258 7' 4.25" 8' 8" 11.4 29.0 33.5 25 11.53 3.59 31 5
Al Horford 6' 8.75" 6' 9.75" 246 7' 0.75" 8' 11" 9.1 31.0 35.5 20 12.15 3.37 21 3

Here is how Love compares to Sheldon from the pre-draft and to Al Horford. Considering that Love is the fastest of the three and the fattest. I'd have to say that he has more potential than either of the other two. Once Love gets into NBA shape and it sounds as though he wants to work to get there, he should increase his speed, jumping and most definately his strength. Add in the fact that he has largely been assessed as having one of the more polishedinside games and jumpers and I do not see how you can compare him to Shelden. Horford yes, but he looks like he may have more upside than Al too.

[DG4L]

Sigh...

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10883422

[kandiking]

that article looks like it was written by someone who does not understand basketball.

"When they shoot the ball, it tends to go in"

yes salim stoudamire was a real steal for the hawks, wasn't he?

[cool_guy]

Exact similiar argument we had when we did foye/roy trade. It didn't take much time to see who won and who lost. It will repeat. Soon my friend, soon. We are fans. We love this franchise. We will try to justify the doing even when McHale sales this team to laden. We poor fans.

[DG4L]

Exact similiar argument we had when we did foye/roy trade. It didn't take much time to see who won and who lost. It will repeat. Soon my friend, soon. We are fans. We love this franchise. We will try to justify the doing even when McHale sales this team to laden. We poor fans.

That's my fear.