Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

JordansBulls
RealGM
Posts: 60,467
And1: 5,349
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
Location: HCA (Homecourt Advantage)

Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#1 » by JordansBulls » Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:54 pm

League sources said that Elton Brand, who also opted out of his deal Monday night, will re-sign with the Clippers for long-term deal worth about $13.5 million a year.


Source: San Francisco Chronicle


Good news for the Clippers and the Western Conference. Takes the Warriors out of contention but now it adds the Clippers.

Now you have

Lakers
Rockets
Spurs
Hornets
Jazz
Mavericks
Clippers
Suns

Blazers
Nuggets
Image
"Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships."
- Michael Jordan
cb4_89
RealGM
Posts: 27,650
And1: 517
Joined: Oct 02, 2004
       

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#2 » by cb4_89 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 2:32 pm

the warriors are one move away from going right back up
Malinhion
Banned User
Posts: 10,071
And1: 3
Joined: Oct 03, 2006
Location: Holding a Players-Only Meeting

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#3 » by Malinhion » Wed Jul 2, 2008 2:33 pm

Wow. Since when can the Clippers FO convince star players to sign on the cheap?
User avatar
Relentless88
RealGM
Posts: 11,794
And1: 101
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
       

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#4 » by Relentless88 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:09 pm

Since they had a player like Brand who talked to B-Diddy.
HarlemHeat37
Banned User
Posts: 6,570
And1: 7
Joined: Sep 14, 2006

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#5 » by HarlemHeat37 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:34 pm

I'm happy for the Clippers, but they've had talented lineups before..definitely not as good as Baron/Gordon/Thornton/Brand/Kaman though..if that team gets depth, they're disgusting..
SA37
RealGM
Posts: 18,636
And1: 9,304
Joined: Sep 10, 2002
Location: Basking in the Glory
 

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#6 » by SA37 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:54 pm

Malinhion wrote:Wow. Since when can the Clippers FO convince star players to sign on the cheap?


Since when is 13.5 million cheap? I think the Clippers can actually start Brand at $13.5 million per season, but I am not sure. If the deal averages 13.5 million, then it would be 6-years, $81 million; if it starts at $13.5 million, then it would be closer to 6-years, $97 million.

Nothing cheap in either case.
User avatar
TheKingOfVa360
General Manager
Posts: 8,326
And1: 1,663
Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Location: Orange County, California
         

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#7 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:55 pm

Great moves for the Clippers I see them getting knocked out in the second round of the playoffs. The good news is they will make the playoffs.
A.J.
Banned User
Posts: 12,072
And1: 1
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Location: Houston(University of Houston in 2009)

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#8 » by A.J. » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:57 pm

Good move for the Clippers.

Instant playoff contenders. Now all they have to do is get some bench depth.
Walmart
Starter
Posts: 2,492
And1: 1,461
Joined: Apr 26, 2007

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#9 » by Walmart » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:05 pm

Mr. Sterling you have Vince Carter on line 1.
Wade-GOAT
Banned User
Posts: 699
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 01, 2008
Location: Swagdad

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#10 » by Wade-GOAT » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:18 pm

you need to take the Mavs out of that top 8 and put the Blazers in :nod:
lakerfan10770
Starter
Posts: 2,212
And1: 3
Joined: Aug 03, 2005
 

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#11 » by lakerfan10770 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:30 pm

Here is how the Cap numbers look for the Clipps assuming the renounce Maggette, Livingston, Ross, Smush Parker, Dickau, Paul Davis, the MLE & LLE:

Elton Brand - ?????
Baron Davis - ??????
Chris Kaman - $9,500,000
Cuttino Mobley - $8,925,000
Tim Thomas - $6,049,400
Eric Gordon - $2,186,000 (Cap Hold)
Al Thornton - $1,776,240
Brevin Knight - $1,728,000
Josh Powell - $864,000 (Not guaranteed)
Marcus Williams - $886,517 (Cap Hold, they did offer a QO)
Nick Fazekas - $886,517 (Cap Hold, they did offer a QO)
Roster Charge - $442,114
Total - $33,243,788 (excluding Brand & Davis)

If the Cap is set at $57M that leaves about $23M to split between Brand & Davis. Baron's deal is reported to be worth 5yrs $65M, A starting salary of $11.25M with raises would come to $65.25M. For Elton a starting salary of $12M with 10.5% raises would be $72.6M for 5 years and $90.9M for 6 years.

So if you add $11.25 for Davis & $12M for Brand the Clippers cap number would be at $56,493,788.
Malinhion
Banned User
Posts: 10,071
And1: 3
Joined: Oct 03, 2006
Location: Holding a Players-Only Meeting

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#12 » by Malinhion » Wed Jul 2, 2008 5:21 pm

SA37 wrote:
Malinhion wrote:Wow. Since when can the Clippers FO convince star players to sign on the cheap?


Since when is 13.5 million cheap? I think the Clippers can actually start Brand at $13.5 million per season, but I am not sure. If the deal averages 13.5 million, then it would be 6-years, $81 million; if it starts at $13.5 million, then it would be closer to 6-years, $97 million.

Nothing cheap in either case.


Brand at $13.5m is cheap when, next season, Garnett makes $25m, JO and Duncan make $21m, Shaq makes $20m, Dirk makes $18m, Shard makes $17m, AK47, Yao, Amare, Gasol, Odom all make $15m each, and he opted out of a contract to make $17.6m next season.

Maybe you just had no idea what a big man in the NBA costs.
Apollo64
Starter
Posts: 2,148
And1: 726
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Location: Greece

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#13 » by Apollo64 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 5:45 pm

It is very likely that the whole thing was orchestrated from the beginning: Davis and Brand opting out from lucrative last years in their contracts, then signing for less money than they could command in the market, so the Clippers won't have cap problems.
Malinhion
Banned User
Posts: 10,071
And1: 3
Joined: Oct 03, 2006
Location: Holding a Players-Only Meeting

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#14 » by Malinhion » Wed Jul 2, 2008 5:47 pm

Apollo64 wrote:It is very likely that the whole thing was orchestrated from the beginning: Davis and Brand opting out from lucrative last years in their contracts, then signing for less money than they could command in the market, so the Clippers won't have cap problems.


There have been whispers that the Clippers had a deal in place under the table with Baron before Brand had opted out for "more help." Their alibi is that the coach was out visiting a free agent prospect, but that seems like a bogus excuse to me. Nobody will ever prove anything but the course of events is pretty obvious if Brand resigns for so cheap so soon.
User avatar
lukeridenour
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,263
And1: 1
Joined: May 19, 2007
Location: Los Angeles

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#15 » by lukeridenour » Wed Jul 2, 2008 6:46 pm

a few have mentioned their bench but their bench is pretty solid. they have mobley (whow ill likely start at the beginning of the season), tim thomas, maybe even ross or livingston back. they just need to add some front court help but i wouldnt say they lack depth.
Manu Ginobili:

* Italian League Championship: 2001
* Italian Cup: 2001, 2002
* Euroleague: 2001
* Americas Championship: 2001
* NBA Championship: 2003, 2005, 2007
* Summer Olympic Games gold medal: 2004
loflin3hree5ive
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 7,342
And1: 67
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Location: Clipperland

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#16 » by loflin3hree5ive » Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:04 pm

I think the Clips will send GS a pick for Davis S&T so they can keep the MLE.

I'm not sold on this source.
Truthiracy
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,649
And1: 71
Joined: Feb 23, 2008
Location: ABQ, New Mexico

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#17 » by Truthiracy » Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:09 pm

Now can the Clippers actually do something with this talent?
Debate the Conspiracy master on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/truthiracy3
User avatar
realball
Head Coach
Posts: 6,315
And1: 3,359
Joined: Sep 13, 2006
 

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#18 » by realball » Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:13 pm

They have decent depth. DeAndre Jordan should be good enough to play 10-15 minutes a night. Josh Powell, Eric Gordon, Quentin Ross, and Brevin Knight are all solid bench players as well. Now all they need to do is send Mobley, Thomas, and a few 1sts to NJ for Carter.
Malinhion
Banned User
Posts: 10,071
And1: 3
Joined: Oct 03, 2006
Location: Holding a Players-Only Meeting

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#19 » by Malinhion » Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:32 pm

...and sacrifice any of the limited depth that they currently possess in the process.
User avatar
ClipperDomination
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 2
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Los Angeles

Re: Elton Brand to Sign $13.5-mil/year Deal with Clips 

Post#20 » by ClipperDomination » Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:35 pm

loflin3hree5ive wrote:I think the Clips will send GS a pick for Davis S&T so they can keep the MLE.

I'm not sold on this source.


Is this an unknown source, or is this on the internet?

Return to The General Board