warriors offer brand 5/90mill

[dockingsched]

i don't really understand AT ALL why the warriors offering brand a huge contract is going to force the clippers to up their offer to brand and sign n trade for davis. people act like the clippers aren't willing to pay brand big money. they never refused to do so. the whole point of getting baron davis is to field a competitive team. you think they'd go and agree to terms with davis without brand telling them he'd take a paycut? obviously brand has already agreed to the paycut or else the clips don't pursue davis. the warriors offering more money doesn't matter because the clippers were always going to take that route if it needed to be taken.

A wink-wink deal didn't stop Boozer from bolting town when a larger offer came along. The agents first priority is to get his client the most money, and if he sees that he can get more then he will twist the Clippers arm to do it.

big difference. utah offered money that cleveland couldn't match. gs is offering money that the clips could not only match, but significantly surpass.

[magicfan04]

i fail to see how the warriors offer a better situation then the clippers

[yehyeh82]

i don't really understand AT ALL why the warriors offering brand a huge contract is going to force the clippers to up their offer to brand and sign n trade for davis. people act like the clippers aren't willing to pay brand big money. they never refused to do so. the whole point of getting baron davis is to field a competitive team. you think they'd go and agree to terms with davis without brand telling them he'd take a paycut? obviously brand has already agreed to the paycut or else the clips don't pursue davis. the warriors offering more money doesn't matter because the clippers were always going to take that route if it needed to be taken.

A wink-wink deal didn't stop Boozer from bolting town when a larger offer came along. The agents first priority is to get his client the most money, and if he sees that he can get more then he will twist the Clippers arm to do it.

big difference. utah offered money that cleveland couldn't match. gs is offering money that the clips could not only match, but significantly surpass.

Yeah, but if the Clippers match then they can't sign Baron, hence the need for a sign and trade. That is why I said this has been a ploy the whole time to get something for Baron, and it just might work.

[dockingsched]

Yeah, but if the Clippers match then they can't sign Baron, hence the need for a sign and trade. That is why I said this has been a ploy the whole time to get something for Baron, and it just might work.

you think the clippers go out and commit money to baron davis without brand telling them he's comfortable with the paycut? you think the clippers just go out and assume brand is going to take a paycut without talking to him first? the clippers HAVE to know that brand is going to take a paycut before they ever start to pursue davis. if brand wanted the money, the clippers would have given him more than the warriors could offer to begin with and none of this davis stuff is even being discussed. heck, if brand was worried about the money he wouldn't have opted out in the 1st place.

[Chris Cohan]

I think all of that team-player involvement would be totally ilegal and the lack of a formal announcement on Brand's decision to this point suggests there may be some hold-ups now.

We shall see. But if I were a Clippers fan, I'd be at least a LITTLE nervous.

[loflin3hree5ive]

It is taking too long for my taste, but I'm impatient to begin with. I really have a hard time coming up with any reason why we'd get this far and not be able to land Elton. I'm looking forward to the Clippers first game in Oakland next year.

[FaTaL]

Yeah, but if the Clippers match then they can't sign Baron, hence the need for a sign and trade. That is why I said this has been a ploy the whole time to get something for Baron, and it just might work.

you think the clippers go out and commit money to baron davis without brand telling them he's comfortable with the paycut? you think the clippers just go out and assume brand is going to take a paycut without talking to him first? the clippers HAVE to know that brand is going to take a paycut before they ever start to pursue davis. if brand wanted the money, the clippers would have given him more than the warriors could offer to begin with and none of this davis stuff is even being discussed. heck, if brand was worried about the money he wouldn't have opted out in the 1st place.

maybe they didnt think the warriors would offer him the max, it has to make him think twice about taking less especially after coming off a serious injury.

[Chris Cohan]

One of our Warriors mods is convinced that Baron Davis and his agent secured a better deal from the Clippers than they could anywhere else and that their final decision was based upon that longterm security. If in fact that was the operative logic, Brand acting any differently seems opposed to the common logic in NBA contractual dealings.

More "security" is the standard choice.

On the other hand, Baron had very little leverage and almost no options, so he took what he could get. Early. With a very real risk of ending up alone in LA with his sweet glasses and his college buddy.

But Brand will be in LA, don't worry about it.

[corwin]

Based on last years numbers a player with 9 years experience has a maximum starting salary of $15,649,500. A players maximum salary is the afformentioned set amount or 105% of his previous salary whichever is higher. At the moment the Max starting salary for Elton Brand would 105% of his previous salary which would is $16,111,200. With 8% raises that equates to 5yrs $93,444,960. The set maximum amount for a player with 9 years exeprience would have to jump to over $17M to get to a contract in excess of $100M for Brand.

Before Davis opted out, GS had an estimated payroll of $47+ million for 7 players (Sham Sports). If Brand ends up in GS this becomes approximately $46 million for 7 players as Brand is substituted for Davis. This does not count any new contracts for Biedrins, Ellis or Azubuike nor Anthony Randolphs rookie contract ($1.42 million). If this happens, GS may be jeopardizing their ability to retain Biedrins and/or Ellis without going over the luxury tax limit if a serious ($10+ million) offer is made for either/both players. IMO this is a risky strategy that may have the unintended consequence that I've mentioned because apparently Cohan has never been willing to pay the luxury tax.

[yehyeh82]

Yeah, but if the Clippers match then they can't sign Baron, hence the need for a sign and trade. That is why I said this has been a ploy the whole time to get something for Baron, and it just might work.

you think the clippers go out and commit money to baron davis without brand telling them he's comfortable with the paycut? you think the clippers just go out and assume brand is going to take a paycut without talking to him first? the clippers HAVE to know that brand is going to take a paycut before they ever start to pursue davis. if brand wanted the money, the clippers would have given him more than the warriors could offer to begin with and none of this davis stuff is even being discussed. heck, if brand was worried about the money he wouldn't have opted out in the 1st place.

Well, we'll see who's right but I don't think Brand expected to get a max offer for that length after coming off an injury. He would be dumb to not and at least try and get the Clippers to offer more money. You might think you would be cool with 30% less money until it is there at your fingertips.

[TheSheriff]

You gotta take the 20 million you can buy a **** gulfstream for that.

[RTM]

Brand has already made sick amounts of money. I think at this point in his career, he'll choose to stay put, make less, and play alongside the better talent. IMO, Baron, Kaman, Thornton and crew are better than Monta, Jax, Biendris RIGHT NOW.

I fully expect him to remain a Clipper.

[FaTaL]

cash rules everything around me cream get the money dolla dolla bills ya'll

[marthafokker]

It would really be funny though.

Baron telling Warriors he is not going to opt out until the last minute.

Now Brand told management he is willing to get less money to get a secured contract... just to see $20Mil more (maybe $30Mil if Warriors really wants to). And decide to go to Warriors.

Both players playing the system to get more money to.... like Spreewell said.... 'Got family to feed'

[loflin3hree5ive]

Brand will be black-listed from Hollywood if he burned the Clippers that bad lol. He's seriously not going anywhere.

[Relentless88]

90 million over 5 years, wow...professional athletes.

My goal is 1 million over 5 years.

[Jordan45822]

Brand like Davis is in the movie producing and acting business in Hollywood. I doubt he is going anywhere.

[kobefan27]

Brand should go to golden state, his chances of winning are better there. all LAC really has is an oft-injured b-diddy, an aging cuttino mobley, ano maggette and an undersized rookie 2 with potential. chris kaman is garb. With g. state, he has ellis, jacks, and two youngsters that can limit his time, so he can lengthen his career. Add in 20 million, and the choice is crystal clear.

[GuyverX]

chris kaman is garb.

I'm sorry, I don't think anybody can take you seriously after this comment. If 16/13/3 blocks is garbage, there are only 2 or 3 other pure centers in the NBA who aren't.

You didn't even mention Al Thornton who is 2nd among all rookies in scoring.

[RapsBulls4evr]

It's all about the monayyy in sports, unless you've got a legitimate chance at contending for a championship, and if Brand stays with L.A for the sake of playing with his buddy Baron, and knowing that he won't win a championship (which they won't anyway)... it would be a pretty dumb move for Brand not to go to GS. "Nothing personal, it's just business". Lol, it's a no brainer for Brand, unless you guys are best of friends or soul mates or something... otherwise if I were Brand:

To Clipps Management: "Sorry guys, it's been a great run, nothing personal, as business people, you should be able to understand my decision."

To Baron: "Sorry dude, we will be best buddies after I sign that 20 - 30 million dollar contract and at the end of the year, then after that, I will take you out for dinner... all on me!"