Is Softy correct??? about the history?

[yearsago]

That after 5 years..if we dont have a team..that OKC gets our history? is that true?

[nwsports253]

im pretty sure, if i see them rise GP's jersey into the rafters i dont know what im going to do but its not going to be good

[nwsports253]

softy also said something about polls in okc that most people would rather go watch a OU football game then see a nba game

[jenn_gp]

YES.

Isn't that wonderful?

I read the agreement about two this morning, trying to make sense of it. If you want to see the document, go to the last page of the Trial thread, I posted it in there.

I am outraged. Softy was spot on with his rant on that one. I got tears in my eyes, you could really feel the frustration coming from him.

Mayor $45 million needs to get his ass kicked out of office..he's shown ZERO leadership, and has proved he's no better than the lazy politicians in this state who could give a rat's ass about professional sports in Seattle. They don't realize how important this team was to the fans.

[Ex-hippie]

They can put whatever damn name they want in those rafters as far as I'm concerned.

OT: yearsago... you're in today's New York Times crossword. 51 across, the clue is "Years ___," and the answer is "Ago." Got it right away.

[jenn_gp]

What was Softy talking about just now to end his show? The fight begins Monday at 2pm?

What fight?

[jenn_gp]

haha did anyone just hear that Time for change commercial just now on KJR? Already asking for Gregoire's head. It was basically a vote for Rossi commercial.

He's got my vote!

[yearsago]

haha did anyone just hear that Time for change commercial just now on KJR? Already asking for Gregoire's head. It was basically a vote for Rossi commercial.

He's got my vote!

I believe that is actually a Vote for Rossi commerical.

[jenn_gp]

I just e-mailed Mayor Nickels, here's my letter.

Mayor Nickels,
I am not sure where to begin, as I am feeling a bit overwhelmed over the past 24 hours. I just want to thank you for all your hard work and support you gave to Sonics fans. I am disgusted and outrage by the utter lack of leadership you showed July 2, 2008 by settling out of court with the Sonics. You showed no confidence in our city to let the law prevail itself, and proved that you are no better than the lazy politicians who "work" at our state capital.

I feel betrayed that you lied to us. You have been using Sonics fans as a pawn for this outcome. You have played with our emotions, and that press conference you held yesterday felt like a slap in the face for my 16 years of loyalty towards the Seattle Supersonics.

What makes me the most upset is that not only did you settle for money--which you said you would never do from day one, you sold off our history with the team yesterday. Did you not read the settlement papers before you agreed? We have to SHARE our 41 years of history with a city that could care less about us.

How can you live with yourself? You went from being an absolute hero throughout this whole situation to turning into a spineless coward in the 11th hour. You sold us all out, every Sonics fan's childhood, memories, and HISTORY to the tune of $45 million dollars. I myself didn't get any sleep last night knowing that.

Your legacy could have been known for saving the Sonics. Instead, 10, 20, and 50 years from now, we will all look at you and the only thing we will remember is that you let the Sonics walk away under your watch.

You're lucky I don't live in Seattle, because come this November, you would not be getting my vote.

Sincerely,
Jennifer
Disgusted Loyal Sonics Fan of 16 Years

[Sweezo]

Rossi has signs all over Eastern Washington that say "Rossi for GOP: Don't let Seattle steal this election." Anyone who sees him as a white knight is incorrect...

[jenn_gp]

^You would rather keep Gregoire? She's shown she's not a leader on so many levels Sweez, and I'm not just talking about the Sonics situation either.

Our government needs to clean house, from top to bottom.

[Sweezo]

I don't like Gregoire, but Rossi's about as sleazy a politician as there is in the world. There are greater political issues out there besides a basketball team, and I cannot stand how Rossi is attempting to captialize on the division between Eastern WA and Western WA. And he's capitlizing on the Sonics leaving too...he really did nothing to keep the team here besides making a few comments he can now reference, and now he's trying to argue that he's different. I call bull****. He's using the Sonics leaving for political gain...it's the best thing that could have happened for him.

[Ex-hippie]

You mean... someone who's not in elected office, sitting around and criticizing the person who is in office and saying he would have done things differently? The horror, the horror!

[Bulltalk]

I think Rossi sucks, but Gregoire getting the boot is necessary. A message has to be sent. Besides, this wasn't my only contention about Gregoire, but losing the Sonics put me over the edge. Something tells me that if Gary Locke was still governor, the legislature wouldn't have gotten off the hook so easy on what appears to have been all but a no-brainer vote for the state to have kept the Sonics here.

[mojomarc]

Something tells me that if Gary Locke was still governor, the legislature wouldn't have gotten off the hook so easy on what appears to have been all but a no-brainer vote for the state to have kept the Sonics here.

Like when he successfully defeated I-695 by getting the legislature to craft an alternate solution to the horrible car tab fees? Or when he got he legislature to put in the infrastructure that would have kept Boeing's headquarters here?

Sorry, but Locke was a really ineffective governor as well. It seems that lack of leadership ability is a prerequisite for being elected to state office in Washington.

[McG]

I don't like Gregoire, but Rossi's about as sleazy a politician as there is in the world. There are greater political issues out there besides a basketball team, and I cannot stand how Rossi is attempting to captialize on the division between Eastern WA and Western WA. And he's capitlizing on the Sonics leaving too...he really did nothing to keep the team here besides making a few comments he can now reference, and now he's trying to argue that he's different. I call bull****. He's using the Sonics leaving for political gain...it's the best thing that could have happened for him.

You're about as wrong as you can get on Rossi being a sleaze. Compared to Gregoire he is an absolute saint. I've met Rossi on multiple occasions and he is the polar opposite of the 'say anything' politicians that pollute government today. I'm sure you'd think the same if you were so indulged.

And as for campaigning in Eastern Washington, (to put it kindly) what the duck do you expect!? He is running as a conservative, thus his first priority is to keep his party's votes. His second priority will be to take away many of the liberal votes (as he did last election) and then you can celebrate the commercials/signage/and everything else that you're so looking forward to WEST of the mountains. It's called strategy and it's fairly simple. At least he isn't getting over 40% of his campaign contributions from out of state like Gregoire (or can you stand that?).

Finally, I can't help but think that we'd be in a much better position if the election had ended as it did with the first two vote counts. While there's really no need to speculate, I (and I'm sure just about everyone else on this board can agree with me) find Gregoire's efforts in keeping the Sonics completely laughable. So what if Rossi is benefiting from a few comments he made? That's all Gregoire did, and as Governor! I especially like her statement yesterday that,

'Now it's time for the state Legislature to get to work.'

Are you serious!? Now!? Of all times after the team is gone!? She could have helped significantly in the process during the legislative session and now she's going to make an effort!?

I'm not trying to attack Sweezo or anyone else who still believes Gregoire should be reelected, but I would just like to know how, as a seemingly passionate Sonics fan, is that even a possibility? Although the world is much bigger than sports, the Sonics has been a big part of my world (and everyone's on this board) for decades. One of the only powers we have left after this whole mess is to hold the politicians who brought us to this day responsible, and I for one am going to accomplish that by voting AGAINST all of the city and state leaders involved in this process. I hope that some of you will join me.

[Sweezo]

You can get as sanctimonious as you want but Rossi's no saint. I hated how Rossi ran his last campaign and the platform he campaigned on. His ideas reeked of blatant placation and impracticality. And I hate how he went on the local cable access Christian show and tried to rally people as if believing Jesus means you have to vote a certain way. I despise that kind of politics. He will never get my vote. And not because I'm a Gregoire fan...I view her as completely unspectacular.

I'm not against voting Republican. I've done it many times. And if it were a different GOP candidate running against Gregoire that candidate would probably get my vote. But not Rossi.

[KingInExile]

I think Rossi sucks, but Gregoire getting the boot is necessary. A message has to be sent. Besides, this wasn't my only contention about Gregoire, but losing the Sonics put me over the edge. Something tells me that if Gary Locke was still governor, the legislature wouldn't have gotten off the hook so easy on what appears to have been all but a no-brainer vote for the state to have kept the Sonics here.

Had Gregoire committed the money that Bennett wanted the state to kick in and the Sonics had stayed, Rossi would be attacking her for "squandering public money". He's pandering.

And if your choice is between Gregoire and Rossi (and it is), do you really want to turn this state over to a sleaze like Rossi? When you look at the big picture, Washington is in pretty good shape compared to the rest of the country...and Chris has played a big role in that success. No, she's not going to make everybody happy. But overall she has done more good for this state than bad. Rossi just f*** this state over for his personal gains.

[big L]

So what's going to happen to the $40/75 million? Does anyone know?

[Big_Mac79]

I am not a particularly political person but the funniest thing was when I was at the Apple Cup they put Gregoire on the jumbotron and the entire stadium booed. It was hilarious.