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Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!?

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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#21 » by ray ray » Sat Jul 5, 2008 6:11 pm

The best option for the Suns will be signing Tyron Lue and resigning Brian Skinner. Maybe we can get lucky and we get Quinton Ross cheap. I might be wrong but I do beleive that the Suns sucess is going to determine wether Barbosa becomes a much better defender and if Strawberry has develope a consistant shooting touch from beyond 18ft.

We all know that Barbosa can score with the best of them in the NBA. Barbosa has lighting speed and quickness not to mention that he has a wingspan of a 6"10 player. Like many have mention before, it always seems like he is in bad positions or out of position. This is becouse of the lack of knowing were to be. This falls sqarly in the shoulders of coach D'Antoni and his brother.If Barbosa can somehow become a better in his position defensively, heis going to create havic like Marion did for us. His anticipations needs to get better, after all Barbosa is still only 25 yrs old.


We all know that DJ can play some real good defense but it's his offense what has scares the Suns in the past.There is no doubt that if DJ has a consistant shot from the outside, he is going to replace Raja from the starting lineup before the season ends.DJ is very athletic and has speed and quickness,not as fast as Barbosa but he is not far behinfd either. DJ needs to improve his shootting touch, if he doeswe can count him as a free agent pick becouse the lack of playing time D'Antoni didnt give him.

The Suns lineup can be:
Steve Nash,Tyron Lue, DJ Strawberry
Raja Bell, Leandro Barbosa, DJ Strawberry
Boris Diaw, Grant Hill
Amare Stoudimare, Boris Diaw, Brian Skinner
Shaq,Robin Lopez, Brian Skinner

If the Suns can somehow can get somebody like a Micheal Pietrus, Quinton Ross or a JR Smith into out bench( I perfer Pietrus becouse he is longer) we are not that behind from becoming a title contendor again. I like our roster especially if Porter can coach Barbosa to become a much better defensive player that he has been in the past. Like I said in the begining of this post, the Suns sucess will depend if Barbosa becomes a much better defender and if Strawberry can have a consistant shot from 18 ft.If STAT also becomes a better one on one defender, the Suns are going to surprise alot of the media as well as teams who are going to play agaisnt them. These three scenerios are very attainables, GO SUNS!!
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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#22 » by NashtyNas » Sat Jul 5, 2008 10:57 pm

AHAA and while we're at it lets make nash a good defender too shall we? C'mon man. I Know this guy is young, but he doesnt know a lick of the word defence. He doesnt even bother to stay with his man. He has the length and speed, but not the willingness. Also, i doubt he will be on our roster for even the training camp, 80% hes getting traded. I dislike the idea of having Boris play PF, and Brian should not be our only backup because if Amare goes down for 5-10 games, we have NO ONE. Diaw is not a PF, hes a SF. He may be our best post up, doesnt make him the sizeable, big, defender. I want a REAL PF thats 6'9. 240. Defensive specialist type...
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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#23 » by walkingart » Sun Jul 6, 2008 2:23 am

you are living in a fantasy land if you think that we can get anyone better than Skinner through FA, we have no money, and even less choices. Whoever we bring in as a big will be a vet whose major impact on the team will be as a good locker room guy, ie. Marks or Piatkowski.

Barbs has never been taught how to play defense properly, he has all the tools physically to be a good defender, coaching can help him mentally to grasp the concept and technique.

You can say Hodge has performed in the DLeague for a couple years, but with no professional experience to speak of, DJ and Tucker went down and dominated in a way Hodge will never be able to do. Hodge is longer than Tuck, but he is not nearly big enough to guard the big SF of the NBA. I don't think we can find that guy in FA, but we could move Barbs( I think he will gone sooner rather than later) for a long wing who can play both the 2 and 3. Hopefully, we are still trying to bring Webster over, or maybe we can look at a guy like Matt Barnes in FA as a defensive specialist who is a streaky shooter.
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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#24 » by ray ray » Mon Jul 7, 2008 4:45 am

sd1306 wrote:AHAA and while we're at it lets make nash a good defender too shall we? C'mon man. I Know this guy is young, but he doesnt know a lick of the word defence. He doesnt even bother to stay with his man. He has the length and speed, but not the willingness. Also, i doubt he will be on our roster for even the training camp, 80% hes getting traded. I dislike the idea of having Boris play PF, and Brian should not be our only backup because if Amare goes down for 5-10 games, we have NO ONE. Diaw is not a PF, hes a SF. He may be our best post up, doesnt make him the sizeable, big, defender. I want a REAL PF thats 6'9. 240. Defensive specialist type...


PLEASE NAME ME A FREE AGENT THAT IS 6"9 240 LBS AND IS ANY GOOD DEFENSIVELY AND COMES CHEAP?? If you do, please make it happen becouse there is no one out there who is a big and is a defensive specialist. I do disagree with you with Barbosa not knowing what defense , he just hasen't been tought and hasen't been held accountable. Barbosa needs one year under Terry Porter and before we decide to trade him. That's just my opinion, if Barbosa still dosen't know how to play defense after this year, I will be with you on the trade Barbosa band wagon.
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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#25 » by TASTIC » Mon Jul 7, 2008 4:58 am

ray ray wrote:
sd1306 wrote:AHAA and while we're at it lets make nash a good defender too shall we? C'mon man. I Know this guy is young, but he doesnt know a lick of the word defence. He doesnt even bother to stay with his man. He has the length and speed, but not the willingness. Also, i doubt he will be on our roster for even the training camp, 80% hes getting traded. I dislike the idea of having Boris play PF, and Brian should not be our only backup because if Amare goes down for 5-10 games, we have NO ONE. Diaw is not a PF, hes a SF. He may be our best post up, doesnt make him the sizeable, big, defender. I want a REAL PF thats 6'9. 240. Defensive specialist type...


PLEASE NAME ME A FREE AGENT THAT IS 6"9 240 LBS AND IS ANY GOOD DEFENSIVELY AND COMES CHEAP?? If you do, please make it happen becouse there is no one out there who is a big and is a defensive specialist. I do disagree with you with Barbosa not knowing what defense , he just hasen't been tought and hasen't been held accountable. Barbosa needs one year under Terry Porter and before we decide to trade him. That's just my opinion, if Barbosa still dosen't know how to play defense after this year, I will be with you on the trade Barbosa band wagon.


That sounds like Brian Skinner doesn't it?
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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#26 » by walkingart » Mon Jul 7, 2008 6:02 am

yep, there is no one any better than Skinner available.
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Re: Backups... shouldnt we go YOUNG!? 

Post#27 » by ray ray » Tue Jul 8, 2008 2:29 am

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ray ray wrote:
sd1306 wrote:AHAA and while we're at it lets make nash a good defender too shall we? C'mon man. I Know this guy is young, but he doesnt know a lick of the word defence. He doesnt even bother to stay with his man. He has the length and speed, but not the willingness. Also, i doubt he will be on our roster for even the training camp, 80% hes getting traded. I dislike the idea of having Boris play PF, and Brian should not be our only backup because if Amare goes down for 5-10 games, we have NO ONE. Diaw is not a PF, hes a SF. He may be our best post up, doesnt make him the sizeable, big, defender. I want a REAL PF thats 6'9. 240. Defensive specialist type...


PLEASE NAME ME A FREE AGENT THAT IS 6"9 240 LBS AND IS ANY GOOD DEFENSIVELY AND COMES CHEAP?? If you do, please make it happen becouse there is no one out there who is a big and is a defensive specialist. I do disagree with you with Barbosa not knowing what defense , he just hasen't been tought and hasen't been held accountable. Barbosa needs one year under Terry Porter and before we decide to trade him. That's just my opinion, if Barbosa still dosen't know how to play defense after this year, I will be with you on the trade Barbosa band wagon.


That sounds like Brian Skinner doesn't it?


That is what I have been saying, Brian Skinner is our best option along with Tyron Lue. Our success is goi g to depend on Barbosa and Strawberry improvements. I'm not saying that they are going to lead us tothe pormise land, what I'm saying that they will help us with Nash minutes being cut in the regular season.

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