If Miles plays, Blazers lose. We should work him out.

[Gopherguy]

"Darius Miles reportedly looked pretty good in a workout for the Celtics. If he gets a contract and plays in ten games for any NBA team, the Blazers will lose the massive salary cap break they got from his medical retirement."

If he has anything in the tank at all, we could screw up their salary cap situation by getting him into ten games making it harder for them to sign their guys who are coming up. I'd sign him to a series of ten days just to screw them up.

[shrink]

I had this discussion with POR fans about a month ago, and they are in complete denial that they would lose their injury exception if the player isn't actually injured.

[Wingman]

That would be great. We should do anything we can to screw up the Blazers. Some team has to take advantage of this.

[Gopherguy]

I took the quote off of true hoop by Henry Abbot.

So, figure which source is more reliable.

I wonder if he has anything going these days. I thought he was supposedly a pretty good defender.

[thegreatblaze]

Miles was suspended for 10 games if he comes back into the NBA for break the NBA's drug violations. His knees are shot, he's a cancer that doesn't even like basketball.

If you were to sign him he would have to pass a physical, which would be no easy task considering his knees are literally bone-to-bone and he was medically retired by a doctor. And even if he did, the chances of his knees holding up during an NBA season is very slim. And since he would have to play in 10 games for his contract to go back onto our books, you couldn't sign him to a 10 day contract because there wouldn't be enough games in that time-frame. The possibility of signing him to back-to-back 20 day contract wouldn't work either, considering the suspension he was given. So the only way you could get him is to sign him to a longer term deal, then you'd be stuck with him.

And if the Blazers are suspicious of a blatant attempt to screw over their cap space plan, then Portland can send out a petition to the NBA to have his knees-re-examined and file a complaint.

[shrink]

And if the Blazers are suspicious of a blatant attempt to screw over their cap space plan, then Portland can send out a petition to the NBA to have his knees-re-examined and file a complaint.

Ooooh. A petition! And of course, David Stern and the other NBA owners would much rather screw over the Player's Association (who you KNOW would be 100% behind a player being able to return and get a paycheck), then potentially cost your super-rich owner some money! I mean, if a player wants to play, and an owner wants to pay him, obvious Stern will get in the middle to protect Portland's cap space dreams!

thanks for proving the point of my earlier post,

[skorff26]

someone should sign him to a one year deal for the league minimum. They could play him in about 15 games and give him 6-10 minutes each game.

Possible teams that could sign him would be OKC, MN, Den, Utah (all in same division)

or teams that could be looking for capspace in 2010 and want a team out of the running (and possibly a ton of teams will have cap space that year) a few teams that come to mind are NJ, NY, miami (I think he'd be a good fit there), Cleveland, LAC (if they don't resign brand), or sacramento and there are tons of other teams that could easily have cap room that may want to ruin portland's chances of getting someone.

or teams that have a young talented team and want to see another young talented team have trouble signing another star someone like NO, or even teams like memphis or golden state

-I hope he has recovered enough to help some team this year and to help mess up portland's cap space.

[TheFranchise21]

Man what happened to D. Miles? Dude was supposed to be the 2nd coming of KG.

[4ho5ive]

Damn, that reminds me of the SI cover they were on. I still got that somewhere.

[mrmossy84]

Man what happened to D. Miles? Dude was supposed to be the 2nd coming of KG.

defintely an NTer...lol

[Jack wore plaid]

And if the Blazers are suspicious of a blatant attempt to screw over their cap space plan, then Portland can send out a petition to the NBA to have his knees-re-examined and file a complaint.

Ooooh. A petition! And of course, David Stern and the other NBA owners would much rather screw over the Player's Association (who you KNOW would be 100% behind a player being able to return and get a paycheck), then potentially cost your super-rich owner some money! I mean, if a player wants to play, and an owner wants to pay him, obvious Stern will get in the middle to protect Portland's cap space dreams!

thanks for proving the point of my earlier post,

According to our GM this is how it would work.

If a team signed Miles they would have to get clearence from another independent Dr that both the league and the players association agrees on. That Dr would have to say that basically the other dr was wrong, and his injuries aren't career ending.

As for getting a paycheck, Miles is already getting a paycheck. He is still getting paid his entire salary, it just doesn't count against the salary cap.

As for Stern, I imagine he doesn't really miss a player of Miles' character in his league. He is trying to clean up everything that Darius Miles is.

Here is some more information.

If Darius comes back and playes, and if the Blazers were on the hook for his salary, they would still be somewhere around 11 million dollars under the cap if they retained Roy, Oden, Aldridge, Fernandez, Bayless, Outlaw, Frye, Koponen, Przybilla, Batum, 09' 1st.

Steve Blake has a team option that woul dnot be able to excercise

Webster and Diogu would have to be renounced

That's it.

Another scenerio is that Portland could simply trade Lafrentz and his huge expiring contract along with some young talent and bypass the cap plan all together.


If a team signed Miles it wouldn't be anything more than an inconvenience according to our GM. Sure it's better to have 20 million rather than 11 million in cap space, but in the long run it doesn't really matter.


I hope this helps to clarify the situation. A lot of Portland fans seem to think if he signed the Blazers still wouldn't be responsible, which isn't true. According to our GM the Blazers would be responsible only if another independent Dr said he is cleared to play. If not the team could still sign him, minimum of 1 million by the way, and play him all they wanted....only that would not impact Portland.


Good luck this season

[Devilzsidewalk]

We already got Kevin Love the Oregon Killer, we don't need to play games w/ the Blazers anymore.

[MN Die Hard]

It's not worth having that knucklehead in MN just to screw up Portland's finances IMO.

[funkatron101]

Miles was suspended for 10 games if he comes back into the NBA for break the NBA's drug violations. His knees are shot, he's a cancer that doesn't even like basketball.

I thought you were done with this board?

[Charlie78]

There isnt an owner in sports that would pay a million dollars just to screw up another team, and if a GM feels like comitting career suicide by doing that then more power to him. What kind of rep would a team and GM have if they did this blatantly to trip up another team. If miles can play more power to him. But coming from a guy that saw what he did to a group of young players I would highly suggest you reconsider whether you really want darius teaching your young guys about the NBA lifestyle that he loves so much. Besides the cap space plan is just the difference between 9 championships and 10 in the next decade so its not really that important.

[TrentTuckerForever]

Besides the cap space plan is just the difference between 9 championships and 10 in the next decade so its not really that important.

Hey, a Blazer fan with a sense of humor! Please Charlie78, come by more often!

No Miles for me, thanks. That SI cover was the highlight of his career... well, that and making millions of dollars to be take up space on Portland's bench. Oh, and the pot charges. He was never an impact player, and as OdenRoy put it so well, he never loved the game. Loved the lifestyle, sure, but not the game.

[shrink]

"Career suicide" to trip up POR? Wow. You really believe that? Can't a small part of you consider the possibility that 28 other GM's might appreciate that, if Oden is truly as good as advertised? you don't think owners would want self-determination to make their own decisions, right or wrong, without front office interference from Stern voiding a deal because it makes things harder on Portland?

C'mon. Set aside the blind allegience, and try to look at this objectively. You're basing all this on "Pritchard said this" and "Pritchard said that." Is there anyone on the face of the planet who has more bias? I agree that if Miles can't pass a physical, then he can't pass a physical, but all the rest of this stuff is pure campaigning by Pritchard.

I have never heard any legitimate reason why you guys think that the Player's Association wouldn't fight tooth and nail to prevent a player from getting a chance at a comeback in this league? I haven't heard a legitimate reason why you guys think that the PA wouldn't fight tooth and nail to prevent the commissioner from keeping a player who wants to play from accepting a deal from an owner who wants to pay him? On principle alone, the PA can't let this one slide.

To me, it comes down not to whether this messes up your owner's cap space problems. No commish is going to fight the Player's Association to protect that. It all comes down to the physical, and while his work-out for the Celtics was called "impressive," we won't know the results of the physical until there is ink on a contract.

[Howler21]

If anyone can come through and sign him to a contract it would be the Knicks with a 3 year deal. lol

[Ojmayo]

If anyone can come through and sign him to a contract it would be the Knicks with a 3 year deal. lol

Yea thats true, or Memphis might trade Rudy Gay for him for some unkown reason.

[Charlie78]

"Career suicide" to trip up POR? Wow. You really believe that? Can't a small part of you consider the possibility that 28 other GM's might appreciate that,

I didnt really understand the rest of your post but it would be career suicide to intentionally try to mess up another team in this way. If miles can play then by all means he should, I personally have no problem with that. The players association of course would try to help him as they should. But that doesnt mean he will make it back. I am not really worried as no player who has been labled with a career ending injury has ever made it back. But to think that some GM is going to sign him and then convince his coach to play him in ten games just to ruin another teams salary cap would be insane. If he cant play then he wont be in ten games for ten seconds just to mess with Paul Allen. The coach would never work again if he got fired and neither would the GM.