Childress leaving Hawks to join Greek franchise (Page 12)

[HMFFL]

Keep the pieces together!

[Hawks]

Keep Chill and lose Marvin or keep Marvin and lose Chill?

[raleigh]

Keep Chill and lose Marvin or keep Marvin and lose Chill?

How about keeping both?

This will come down to what kinds of S&T offers WC teams propose.

[evildallas]

I've been seeing more references to Josh Childress being a backup plan on other forums. The interested parties are still in the minority, but I think the market for Childress might be picking up a bit which isn't good for us keeping him.

On the subject of Marvin, I'm starting to think Childress isn't going to impact him as much as what happens with Josh Smith. If the price tag maxes out and the ASG actually pay it, then I think Marvin's long term situation will depend on his willingness to sign an extension this summer (it might regardless, if other teams theories about our ownership cash flow prove true). My logic is that they can't afford another player having a good season and letting market forces dictate what gets paid even with Bibby possibly coming off the cap. If you can lock him in at a starting price of 8M or 9M you do it. If not, you try to trade him before the season starts and lock in a replacement around 6M per. My logic is that if he breaks out you'll lose him to the highest bidder because the price tag will be too high and if he regresses you'll not be willing to invest too much in him which means you probably lose him to someone who is more willing to take a gamble and has financial freedom to do so. You can't assume that you'll be able to work a S&T for him as the potential bidding for Josh Smith is starting to show.

I'm not trying to be a downer, I just think the team needs to be run with a master plan. You can afford to play wait and see (and pay) if you have really deep pockets to finish a roster. Without them you almost have to act like a small market baseball team and choose wisely and invest early to get discounts that allow you to put the whole package together.

[killbuckner]

HMFFL- when do we get an official Salim free agency thread?

[killbuckner]

There is no way that Marvin signs an extension this offseason. Even if he spins his wheels for another year he is still likely to get a good contract in FA, where if he breaks out then he will cash in bigtime. There is no reason for him to sign an extension now. Even if he gets injured then he is still likely to get paid.

[evildallas]

The line has already formed for Josh Childress, the Hawks other man in the crosshairs these days.

As many as eight different teams have contacted the Hawks about sign-and-trade deals for Childress, per one of my best spies who insists that there are several Western Conference playoff teams desperate to add Childress to their mix (his exact words were that they “need an athletic younger guy who can play without the ball and come off of their bench and give them a boost.”).

Sekou link here

Not the big media story, but heating up behind the scenes.

[evildallas]

There is no way that Marvin signs an extension this offseason. Even if he spins his wheels for another year he is still likely to get a good contract in FA, where if he breaks out then he will cash in bigtime. There is no reason for him to sign an extension now. Even if he gets injured then he is still likely to get paid.

I said try to sign him to an extension and if he doesn't trade him. That was my advice on what they should do, not what the ASG will do since I am not the ASG and have admitted many times that I don't speak with insider knowledge just normally with cold logic (I'm starting to wonder if I'm too emotional on Josh Smith). Marvin could breakout or just improve some and there is a distinct possibility that he catches the eye of a team with cap room next year. He's still yet to show me the fire that would get me to commit 1/6 of the teams cap room let alone the 1/4 a max deal would be. As such, I see him as a very real possibility of being lost for nothing. IMO, S&T in these positions are iffy propositions as you are taking back contracts of that value, which eats a lot of cap for at least a year and the team trying to acquire the player doesn't want to give up anything too good. Trading him this summer you might be able to fill in his position economically and/or increase depth by going 2 for 1.

[barkley34]

Hey guys, what kind of outside shooter is Childress? I know his form is ugly but he always seems to shoot good against us plus he shot 57% from the field. Is he a slasher or a good shooter though?

[lunarblues]

he's not a good shooter, look at the hotspots on NBA.com and you'll see that most of his shots are within 10 ft of the basket. he does have a bruce bowen like corner three but he doesn't have a knack for scoring. mostly its pts of offensive rebounds and wide open shots from the baseline.

[HoopsGuru25]

Chil only shoots when he is wide open(sort of like Chris Duhon)so his 3 point percentage is kind of irrelevant IMO. He is a very effieinct player but you would like to see a 2/3 be more of a threat from the perimeter(Smith would be much better off reducing his jumpshots like Chil btw). He gets his points from moving away from the ball,putbacks,and transition offense.

[evildallas]

Philly set to be talking to Childress as well.

Childress is scheduled to visit, but despite earlier reports, is yet to be set for a specific date.

link here

[lunarblues]

sounds like a contingency plan for when smith decides to stay. you would think they would be going after other teams players as well.

[lukeridenour]

do you guys like childress for the full mle?

[D21]

do you guys like childress for the full mle?

We have his rights, so we can sign him and going over the cap, then use our MLE for another player, but the amount of the MLE, or a little higher, is what I would pay for Childress.

[JoshB914]

I read some interesting commentary on hoopsworld. Basically we have a ton of money to spend in the summer of 2010 when all those top FA's will be on the market even if we match for Smith, extend JJ, and keep Al. But keeping Chill for the full MLE might change that.

I think that we match the Smith offer no matter what. But what we do with Chill will really give us a better idea of what Sund's plan is. If we keep him, we're clearly looking to make a jump to becoming a 50-win team right now. I'm not sure if that would be wise, especially considering all of the holes that we have with or without Chill.

[killbuckner]

First of all, matching on Smith probably means that Childress walks. Right now it looks like bringing both back will put the Hawks into the luxury tax and I just don't see that happening.

As far as caproom in 2010 that completely depends on what happens with Marvin and Bibby.

[JoshB914]

That's true. I'm assuming that the Hawks know what they're doing and let Bibby and Marvin walk. Unfortunately that is a risky assumption to make.

We better get on the phone and start shopping Chill right now.

[killbuckner]

I still say that I'd rather keep Childress and trade Marvin assuming they can get something of value for him. I think that someone is going to overpay marvin next season.

[conleyorbust]

I still say that I'd rather keep Childress and trade Marvin assuming they can get something of value for him. I think that someone is going to overpay marvin next season.

I'm not the biggest fan of either myself, I don't think Chil fills a role and I don't think Marv is going to justify his salary.

I wouldn't mind this summer being a statement that we are committing to the Joe, JoshS, Al (probably) core and moving both those guys for depth and a shooter/defender at the 3.