AI/Nuggets?

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Re: AI/Nuggets? 

Post#81 » by ambiglight » Tue Jul 8, 2008 4:24 am

Hence, the advice to trade him as quickly as possible. I dont think anybody really respects denver as currently situated. And its pretty disgusting to watch a team with so much talent squander opportunity after opportunity.

There's something wrong with the air up there, when fans co-sign starting Anthony Carter over JR smith, and then think the problem in the backcourt is allen iverson.

One wonders whether some of you honestly believe Anthony Carter paired with any other two guard would make for a strong back-court.

lols

but it is what it is. if the team did well, he'd be accepting the credit, so now that the franchise continues to be mediocre he SHOULD accept the blame.

with AI obviously being such an over-rated player, I imagine if denver trades him they'll be willing to accept a couple mid-tier players in exchange??? orlando for one has got a couple guards that definitely wont outshine melo and can spread the floor with their shooting. and he'd fit over there pretty well...

so there are lots of options if in fact denver doesnt contradict itself and try to get a lot for AI...
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Post#82 » by eathy » Tue Jul 8, 2008 7:39 am

we'd be willing to take a young player who can contribute in the future and expirings for AI.

or we can trade AI for a 1st rounder, and get a loaded up trade ready with 3 first rounders... and possibly even 4 if we trade MC.
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Post#83 » by AILebronMelo » Tue Jul 8, 2008 7:59 am

eathy wrote:we'd be willing to take a young player who can contribute in the future and expirings for AI.

or we can trade AI for a 1st rounder, and get a loaded up trade ready with 3 first rounders... and possibly even 4 if we trade MC.


Who is we? A bunch of fans who wont Melo to take 50 shots a game dont make the front office. You will not and I repeat will get all them draft picks like that. I keep saying that this is not NBA live or 2k or any video game where you can make up fanasty trades. I think maybe you need to stick to video game ball because you really have any knowledge of the real NBA.
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Re: AI/Nuggets? 

Post#84 » by ambiglight » Tue Jul 8, 2008 2:26 pm

eathy wrote:we'd be willing to take a young player who can contribute in the future and expirings for AI.

or we can trade AI for a 1st rounder, and get a loaded up trade ready with 3 first rounders... and possibly even 4 if we trade MC.


ex.jameer nelson and some picks?
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Re: AI/Nuggets? 

Post#85 » by airchibundo507 » Tue Jul 8, 2008 3:00 pm

ex.jameer nelson and some picks?


in a heartbeat.
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Post#86 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jul 8, 2008 5:51 pm

eathy wrote:AI fans, you will that the us Nuggets fans like what AI can do and praise him for his achievements and talent.

we just dont like him for his "bad fit."

he doesnt work well with the Nuggets, plain and simple.

infact, off the top of my head i can only think of 3 contending teams that AI would work well in... GSW, Dallas, and Cleveland (if u consider them a contender).

and of course we're gona defend and want to keep Melo... him being a Nugget is a big reason why we cheer for Denver.


GS maybe but it wouldn't be as a contender. And in CLE Lebron doesn't need the ball but a coach needs to recognize he should always have it. When LeBron is perimeter oriented he goes and does something like put up historically low fg% in the playoffs. He's still streak with those and the best move in the game is LeBron penetrating to the hoop. AI wouldn't fit there.

He needs a place with no offense so it can be just him and shooters/rebounders on offense... teh promblem with that is that team will almost never be good enough to win a title. But that's not AI's fault.

Yeah so maybe DAL if there was a theoretically Kidd for AI straight swap.
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Post#87 » by LakerFanMan » Tue Jul 8, 2008 6:07 pm

airchibundo507 wrote:
ex.jameer nelson and some picks?


in a heartbeat.


Nuggets' fans just let out a sigh of relief that you're not their GM.

Also, what's all this about AI destroying the franchise? For like the 9082384903284098 time, he didn't choose to go there. I agree that he's a bad fit, but it's not his fault he's there. That's the GM's fault. AI is playing the exact same way he's always played. If anyone "destroyed the franchise" it's the GM, not AI.

Though he basically got AI for Miller and a couple of draft picks. If he wanted to I bet he could trade him right now for more then he gave up.
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Re: AI/Nuggets? 

Post#88 » by ambiglight » Wed Jul 9, 2008 1:33 am

Jameer nelson for allen iverson...lols

that kind of shows you how disliked AI is in denver right now.

the fans will settle for practically anyone as long as he gets out of there.

if management is like the fans, some contender is going to luck up on a gasol for kwame type of trade and their going to end up in the finals...im sure orlando would love to have AI & Howard paired up...perfect big man for AI's game. A lot of long players on that team and shooters to spread the floor.

so if they could get AI for jameer and a couple late first round draft picks, of course they'd do that deal.
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Re: AI/Nuggets? 

Post#89 » by airchibundo507 » Wed Jul 9, 2008 3:47 am

Jameer nelson for allen iverson...lols

that kind of shows you how disliked AI is in denver right now.

the fans will settle for practically anyone as long as he gets out of there.

if management is like the fans, some contender is going to luck up on a gasol for kwame type of trade and their going to end up in the finals...im sure orlando would love to have AI & Howard paired up...perfect big man for AI's game. A lot of long players on that team and shooters to spread the floor.

so if they could get AI for jameer and a couple late first round draft picks, of course they'd do that deal.


is nelson the better player? NO.
is he a better fit for the denver offense? yes.

our offense gets a lot better with nelson and smith in the backcourt to provide spacing. our defensive gets a little better because we remove our small and defensively-challenged backcourt. nelson isn't a gambling defensive player...which is also a little better for our overall defense.

adding draft picks would just be cherries to top the cake.


and I bet you bandwagon AI homers were "LOL-ing" at the thought of a miller-AI trade two years ago. but haven't the sixers gotten drastically better since AI's departure? even last year they were good enough to win two games against the pistons in the postseason. but now that they don't have AI sucking up 20 mil dollars a year...they were able to acquire a real star who will take them further into contention.

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Post#90 » by ambiglight » Wed Jul 9, 2008 5:26 am

Ugh, personally I was glad philly traded AI. Just like i'll be glad when he leaves denver. Im a fan of good basketball, and the AI trade from philly was three years late. five years of a major market franchise being a mediocre is bad for basketball and weakens competitiveness of the nba. so now that philly is making moves to rejoin the contenders in the east, im happy for them, just wish they had done it sooner.

as for laughing at the denver trade for AI, I didnt think it was funny in so much as I thought it was bad move for AI. denver's a bad market for someone like him. games are televised late. conservative fanbase. injury prone supporting cast. two volatile and immature stars. not a basketball town. unrealistic expectations. management strapped for cash. small window to win before getting blamed for team not being better than san antonio or LA.

so there were a lot of factors that werent in his control which indicated this wasnt going to work. couple that with denver benching JR, letting earl boykins and then steve blake go and all kinds red flags were raised. denver basically got a modest improvement at the two guard position and lost alot at the pg position. i dont think a modest improvement at the two was worth giving up what they did at the one. i mean AM and JR is obviously a lot better than AC and AI. the trade would have made more sense if they kept SB and AI or played AI and JR. Both combinations would have been an improvement over the AM and JR backcourt.

So there are lots of differences between denver trading AM for AI and orlando trading Jameer for AI. Orlando is a bigger market. A lot less conservative. A dependable cast of role players. A young big man that is a beast on both sides of the court. I think any slashing guard would prefer to play with Dwight Howard than Carmelo Anthony, just being honest. Management doesnt mind spending money. Bigger window to win. East less competitive, so expectations a lot easier to meet. just compare the line-ups...but doesnt matter, if denver fans think thats a good trade than start blitzing the FO with the trade idea and maybe someone will listen. im pretty sure orlando would take that trade in a half a second if they could afford it...

AI-Maurice Evans-Rashard Lewis-Hedo-Dwight Howard
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Nelson-JR-Carmelo-Kmart-Camby

like I said, lols!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: AI/Nuggets? 

Post#91 » by airchibundo507 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:18 pm

Ugh, personally I was glad philly traded AI. Just like i'll be glad when he leaves denver. Im a fan of good basketball, and the AI trade from philly was three years late. five years of a major market franchise being a mediocre is bad for basketball and weakens competitiveness of the nba. so now that philly is making moves to rejoin the contenders in the east, im happy for them, just wish they had done it sooner.

as for laughing at the denver trade for AI, I didnt think it was funny in so much as I thought it was bad move for AI. denver's a bad market for someone like him. games are televised late. conservative fanbase. injury prone supporting cast. two volatile and immature stars. not a basketball town. unrealistic expectations. management strapped for cash. small window to win before getting blamed for team not being better than san antonio or LA.

so there were a lot of factors that werent in his control which indicated this wasnt going to work. couple that with denver benching JR, letting earl boykins and then steve blake go and all kinds red flags were raised. denver basically got a modest improvement at the two guard position and lost alot at the pg position. i dont think a modest improvement at the two was worth giving up what they did at the one. i mean AM and JR is obviously a lot better than AC and AI. the trade would have made more sense if they kept SB and AI or played AI and JR. Both combinations would have been an improvement over the AM and JR backcourt.

So there are lots of differences between denver trading AM for AI and orlando trading Jameer for AI. Orlando is a bigger market. A lot less conservative. A dependable cast of role players. A young big man that is a beast on both sides of the court. I think any slashing guard would prefer to play with Dwight Howard than Carmelo Anthony, just being honest. Management doesnt mind spending money. Bigger window to win. East less competitive, so expectations a lot easier to meet. just compare the line-ups...but doesnt matter, if denver fans think thats a good trade than start blitzing the FO with the trade idea and maybe someone will listen. im pretty sure orlando would take that trade in a half a second if they could afford it...

AI-Maurice Evans-Rashard Lewis-Hedo-Dwight Howard
vs
Nelson-JR-Carmelo-Kmart-Camby

like I said, lols!!!!!!!!!!


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