Resigning Sasha and Turiaf uses MLE?

[supaflash]

On the ESPN website they have a blrub about Corey Maggette and how LA could be his preferred destination based on his close friendship with Kobe but they state that

The Lakers, though, would have to abandon any interest in resigning Sasha Vujacic and Ronny Turiaf to sign Maggette, and the team still favors retaining those two key reserves.

Now I thought that signing restricted free agents like Sasha and Turiaf don't count against the available exceptions.

Anyone know exactly how this works? I am assuming that ESPN is probably thinking that LA won't spend the MLE if they resign those two guys because of the Luxury tax. (to which I say suck it up Buss, LA generates more revenue then any other team)

[hermes]

i don't think signing sasha and ronny effects the MLE, but it might effect how much money the lakers will spend in the offseason

if they sign sasha and ronny, they probably won't spend the mle, but if the spend the mle, they won't resign them
thats what it looks like to me anyway

[LLcoleJ]

Using the MLE has no impact on signing Sasha and Ronny. In fact, we could use the full MLE and sign our own players ( bird rights) to as much as we want.

The question comes into play - if the Lakers want to spend that much and go further into the lux tax.

[supaflash]

Thats what I thought. ESPN just thinks Buss won't pay any more luxury. I think he should though considering how much the Lakers make. According to Forbes LA is only one of a few teams that actually make a significant amount of money after its all said and done. As long as it isn't going into the negatives I should think Buss could spend a little of that profit.

[sp18614]

If I am not mistaken, Sasha & Ronny do not have bird rights and it will count against the MLE. That is why I have been so against resigning those two. Everyone talks about Sasha and the great year he last season but remember that was in a contract year. I would love to have Cory. I would love to move Lamar & Vlad for a vet back up PF and a back up 2 gaurd. I would love to get Artest. I would love Angeline Jolie to dump Brad and move in with me. I would love....

[dockingsched]

of course the lakers have bird rights on ronny and sasha. signing them has nothing to do with the mle. also, who cares if it was sasha's contract yr. he's the same player he's ALWAYS been. its not like he was a lazy, out of shape, no heart type of player and he finally decided to try. he's always been a hard working confident gunner.

[Luxury]

If I am not mistaken, Sasha & Ronny do not have bird rights and it will count against the MLE. That is why I have been so against resigning those two. Everyone talks about Sasha and the great year he last season but remember that was in a contract year. I would love to have Cory. I would love to move Lamar & Vlad for a vet back up PF and a back up 2 gaurd. I would love to get Artest. I would love Angeline Jolie to dump Brad and move in with me. I would love....

lol.. I can say no to each sentence.

[laduane1]

I would love to sign Cory. He would bring another pure player to the Lakers, give us that extra scoring option and a upgrade all over the place. It would open up some other things the Lakers could do like trade Vad/Rad if they so desire. Boston had there big 3, this would give the Lakers that one more step towards the championship. But as I read, Spurs might be the team he will end up at. I sure hope not.

[sp18614]

The NBA Salary Cap is the limit to the total amount of money that National Basketball Association teams are allowed to pay their players. While this seems simple enough in concept, the salary cap is in actuality extremely complex, and contains many obscure rules and loopholes.

The amount that is actually the cap varies on a year-to-year basis, and is calculated as a percentage of the League's revenue from the previous season; for instance, in 2006-07, the NBA's salary cap was approximately US$53.135 million per team, while for the 2007-2008 season it is $55.63 million[1]. Like many professional sports leagues, the NBA has a salary cap to keep teams in larger markets (with more revenue) from buying all of the top players and extending their advantage over smaller-market franchises.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Salary_Cap

Under the above mentioned explanation it would appear that we would hold Ronny's Bird rights as he has had a 3 yr contract with the Lakers from 2004-2007. Although, with Sasha, he has had two contracts from 2 contracts surpassing the 3 years from 2003-2006 & 2007. Last year would have been Sasha's bird rights year. It would also appear that Ronny will sign for alot less and that the both of them are just trying to get other teams to offer a substantial offer sheet to take back to the Lakers. Since the Lakers offered them qualifying offers they have the right to match any offer any other team makes.

Other question does anyone know if we have the bi-annual exception this year?

thanks

[lakerfan10770]

The NBA Salary Cap is the limit to the total amount of money that National Basketball Association teams are allowed to pay their players. While this seems simple enough in concept, the salary cap is in actuality extremely complex, and contains many obscure rules and loopholes.

The amount that is actually the cap varies on a year-to-year basis, and is calculated as a percentage of the League's revenue from the previous season; for instance, in 2006-07, the NBA's salary cap was approximately US$53.135 million per team, while for the 2007-2008 season it is $55.63 million[1]. Like many professional sports leagues, the NBA has a salary cap to keep teams in larger markets (with more revenue) from buying all of the top players and extending their advantage over smaller-market franchises.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Salary_Cap

Under the above mentioned explanation it would appear that we would hold Ronny's Bird rights as he has had a 3 yr contract with the Lakers from 2004-2007. Although, with Sasha, he has had two contracts from 2 contracts surpassing the 3 years from 2003-2006 & 2007. Last year would have been Sasha's bird rights year. It would also appear that Ronny will sign for alot less and that the both of them are just trying to get other teams to offer a substantial offer sheet to take back to the Lakers. Since the Lakers offered them qualifying offers they have the right to match any offer any other team makes.

Other question does anyone know if we have the bi-annual exception this year?

thanks

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but I will clarify each players status for you.

Sasha has just completed his rookie scale contract and has been with the Lakers for 4 years without changing teams as a free agent. Therefore the Lakers have full "Bird-Rights" to him. Also, they tendered him a qualifying offer (as is allowed for rookie scale contracts), which makes him a restricted free agent. So essentially Sasha is a "Full-Bird Restricted Free Agent" and the Lakers have the right to match any offer to him or sign him outright without using the MLE or BAE.

Ronny Turiaf has been with the Lakers for 3 years and is coming off his minimum salary 3 year contract. As with Sasha, since Ronny has not changed teams as a free agent, the Lakers have full "Bird Rights" to him. Since Ronny has been in the league less than 4 years, the Lakers were allowed to tender him a qualifying offer, which they did, making him a restricted free agent. Bottom line on Ronny is that he is a "Full-Bird Restricted Free Agent" and the Lakers have the right to match any offer to him or sign him outright without using the MLE or BAE.

The Lakers did not use the Bi-Annual Exception last season so they do have it this year to use.

[darkangelvin]

I think we better not let the machine and the gorilla go. What we need is to sign up a veteran who plays 3 and a defensive big man. What I have in mind is that Darius Miles is just there waiting for a team to sign him. Sure D-MILES is a drug parole but was Lamar Odom suspended before because of illegal use of Coke? Putting D-Miles will bring a lot of athleticism on the lakers front court. He is long at 6'10 and place the break with effeciency. If he will be on the floor he will spread up the floor and with his long arms he can be mean on defense. D-Miles just have to put his mindset on the game and there is no other coach around the NBA who is better in controlling troublesome players and that is the Zen Master. Mitch should look at D-Miles he can sign him up with bellow MLE and sure Darius will hook up with LA considering that he and LO has that bond going back in their clips years. If D-Miles end up with us then we can add up a big man who would just focus on defense. Let go of Chris Mihm is already and excess baggage and try not to resign DJ coz he will just add more weight on the bench bring back KWAME BROWN for sure Kwame would like to go back to LA and he sure will not be trying be a big paid cager considering he hasnt done nothing at all... With D-MILES n KWAME on board those green IRISH better watch out coz SHOWTIME will ran them to the ground

[dockingsched]

lamar was suspended SEVEN yrs ago. darius miles is currently waiting to serve a ten game suspension RIGHT NOW if he ever returns from a career ending injury. no one has ever returned from an injury deemed career ending. worst idea in quite a while.

[WarFan]

Turiaf signs offer sheet with GS for 4/17

http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/lakers/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_turiaf_09.47b3657.html

[MikeyMike]

I would resign Sasha at all costs....only way I don't is if a team offers OVER MLE.

But for MLE money? Hell yea I give it to Sasha any day of the week.

However, Turiaf on the other hand? That guy is worth no more than 2.5 mill....any more than that and I let him walk.