Time to trade Bass for a SG

mrmreg · Post #1 » by **mrmreg** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 9:07 pm

I am a Bass fan, but considering he's Dirk's back-up he's not going to get much PF time, and now that Diop is back, he probably doesn't get much C time either. He is also about the only decent trade chip this team now has. He isn't going to bring back a sure fire starting SG, but maybe they can find a young up and coming SG on team with too many of them. How about:

Dallas sends Bass and Eddie Jones (salary filler) to Chicago for Thabo Sefolosha.

Chicago has a glut of guards after drafting Rose. They'll surely want Rose to play big minutes at the point leaving Sefolosha to compete for SG minutes with Hinrich, Gordon, and Hughes. Obviously someone needs to be dealt out of there. They've got a bunch of disappointments on the front line, and Brandon Bass just might step in there and start at PF.

From the Mavs standpoint, I seem to recall Norm saying Sefolosha was a guy they really liked going into the draft a couple years ago. He's got nice size and athleticism. It looks like when he started to get minutes in the second half of last season, he put together quite a few nice games. I would say his progression is nearly where Bass's is, and he plays a position of much greater need.

Could be a trade that helps both teams.

mffl_14 · Post #2 » by **mffl_14** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 9:15 pm

I may over value Bass but I think this guy is special. I'm not saying he will be this but he reminds me of a shorter poor man's Boozer. I know we have Dirk but we have no one who really goes to the basket other than Bass and for sure no one who goes to it with so much authority. I wouldn't be totally against trading Bass for a solid SG but I would want one a little better than that personally. Maybe this is actually Bass' ceiling but something tells me this guy is going to be special in the future and I would rather have that or wait till he's gotten a little better and you can for sure get more for him.

dtownmavs41 · Post #3 » by **dtownmavs41** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 9:15 pm

I really like this trade. I know people on here are going to eat you up saying Bass is so much better but he just isn't as useful for us anymore since we resigned Diop. I would love if we could steal Tyrus Thomas from them as well since they have been looking to move several players but there aren't really any realistic trades to acquire him. That would give us another backup for Dirk that can play some at different position and we could run a really athletic team if we needed to. Kidd/Green/Sefolosha/Thomas/Dirk
Hopefully the mavs have something up their sleeves to get another player that can be a solid contributor for some of the expiring contracts we have or for Stackhouse.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #4 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 9:17 pm

make it so!

Rand10 · Post #5 » by **Rand10** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 9:37 pm

I'm all for trading Bass for the right deal, but he's worth more than Sefolosha.

littlemav · Post #6 » by **littlemav** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 9:38 pm

i'm sure i might get eaten alive for suggesting this, but i've been wondering if the mavs should do this since bass' emergence.

starting line-up
kidd
j-ho
bass
dirk
damp/diop

bass is an undersized 4, and this would allow dirk to spread out more on the offensive end with bass down low. this would really give teams a huge match-up problem against us and still allows us to run w/ kidd. just a thought.

JapanAir21 · Post #7 » by **JapanAir21** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:01 pm

S&T with the Magic,

Stackhouse+Bass for Maurice Evans+Tony Battie.

Magic get a low-post threat in Bass, and Stack as a viable source off the bench.

We get our 3rd string Center, and we get a good SG. Better Evans than Thabo, and we get rid of Stack's ugly contract.

If not, We could take out Battie, get Cook/JJ, but that gives us too many player.

Captain_Obvious · Post #8 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:30 pm

Bass to IND for Rights to Brandon Rush.

mffl_14 · Post #9 » by **mffl_14** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:46 pm

littlemav wrote:i'm sure i might get eaten alive for suggesting this, but i've been wondering if the mavs should do this since bass' emergence.

starting line-up
kidd
j-ho
bass
dirk
damp/diop

bass is an undersized 4, and this would allow dirk to spread out more on the offensive end with bass down low. this would really give teams a huge match-up problem against us and still allows us to run w/ kidd. just a thought.

I would go for it, or at least give it a try. Then you still have Jet coming off the bench. We might be in the minority but I would at least like to experiment with it.

Realmavsman · Post #10 » by **Realmavsman** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 11:07 pm

Is Sefolosha really the answer at SG? I would think that Gerald Green has every bit as much upside as Sefolosha. And Green is 2 years younger. I don't why we would want to trade a guy like Bass unless we were getting a known quantity. Thabo is definitely not a sure thing. Really does Thabo even have any more upside than Shan Foster? Maybe but maybe not.

Pointguard01 · Post #11 » by **Pointguard01** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 11:52 pm

^I agree. I dont see why we'd go after Sefolosha, when he's yet to be a consistent sure thing, when we have someone like Green who has shown just as much and we already have him.

I want to trade Bass for the same reasons mentioned above, but I want to get something more certain. Packaging him with Stackhouse A) Gets rid of Stack which is a good thing now that Avery is gone and B) Can bring us in a higher priced player, which gives up more flexibility in the player we can go after.

I just dont think Sefelosha does anything for us.

JES12 · Post #12 » by **JES12** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:37 am

Realmavsman wrote:Is Sefolosha really the answer at SG? I would think that Gerald Green has every bit as much upside as Sefolosha. And Green is 2 years younger. I don't why we would want to trade a guy like Bass unless we were getting a known quantity. Thabo is definitely not a sure thing. Really does Thabo even have any more upside than Shan Foster? Maybe but maybe not.

Agreed, Stack, Jones, Wright, Green, R. Terry, Foaster and Thabo all are no better than 2nd string SG on any other team. Most teams, 3rd string. That is how weak our SG position and Thabo are.

Post #13 » by **DDansby123** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:22 am

We're left in the same position with Bass as we were with Harris: either build around him as part of a rebuilding effort, or try to trade him for a shorter-term upgrade.

How I love it when management backs itself into a corner.

Teffer10 · Post #14 » by **Teffer10** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:47 am

Captain_Obvious wrote:Bass to IND for Rights to Brandon Rush.

As an avid Jayhawk fan, I'd love to have Rush on this team.
However, he is unproven at the NBA level so he is basically in the same category (or a level lower) as Foster, Green, Seibutis, and Wright.
I don't see where he would help us during our short window of opportunity.

Darren · Post #15 » by **Darren** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:02 am

Incoming Players

Jason Richardson
6-6 SG from Michigan State

Outgoing Players

Brandon Bass
6-8 PF from Lousiana State

Eddie Jones
6-6 SG / SF from Temple

Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina

fazer86 · Post #16 » by **fazer86** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:14 am

i actually like ur trade somewhat
but id rather get do whatever i cud to jus get azzubuike cuz i think hes a young J-rich
athletic and can shoot
but if this seasons a bust and it looks like we just gettin older and less talented by the year we needa trade dirk josh jet and get as many picks or get younger and up coming studs and build around bass and have diop next to him
i think this kid will be studdly with shooters adn athletes
PRAY WE CAN GET BRANDON JENNINGS!!!!

fazer86 · Post #17 » by **fazer86** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:15 am

i actually like ur trade somewhat
but id rather get do whatever i cud to jus get azzubuike cuz i think hes a young J-rich
athletic and can shoot
but if this seasons a bust and it looks like we just gettin older and less talented by the year we needa trade dirk josh jet and get as many picks or get younger and up coming studs and build around bass and have diop next to him
i think this kid will be studdly with shooters adn athletes
PRAY WE CAN GET BRANDON JENNINGS!!!!

italy_23 · Post #18 » by **italy_23** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:07 am

thabo clearly isnt the answer at the 2. I am all for trading bass for the right player. I like bass and he contributed more than we could have expected last year, but his problem is the position he plays. with dirk at the 4 and now the damp/diop combo at 5 the loss of bass via trade wouldnt hurt as much. but not for sefolosha, who aint no better than the lousy SGs we already have.
The one proposed deal with J-Rich coming our way would be too good to be true, dont see that happening. but something has to happen

Darren · Post #19 » by **Darren** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:18 am

What about sign and deal Matt Barnes for Stackhouse and Bass?
I'm sure Neille would fall in love with Bass as small ball PF.
Matt won't get what he deserves in FA market, I believe. That makes some sense for both team.

dirkforpres · Post #20 » by **dirkforpres** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:57 pm

So exactly where was I when the Mavs board went from overrating Bass to underrating him?