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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#21 » by tsherkin » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:33 pm

Kwame Brown for the LLE is a winning move.

A lot of his offensive troubles stem from being forced into playing backdown basketball, which is not his forte. When he hit the league, he was a face-up guy with a mid-range jumper... his best offensive season (in Washington during his third year) was predicated primarily on simple face-up sets and that's how he did well, exploiting his quickness. If he got back to that, he could be a comfortable and reasonably valuable 4th option at around 13 ppg.

The defense he would bring would also be quite valuable.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#22 » by BFRESH44 » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:37 pm

Kwame Brown is a bad baskeball player in all regards except for when it comes to posistional defense. He has a very stout frame, thus he's hard to back down on. But he's simply not good. Not a good rebounder, and no shot blocking ability whatsoever.

LLE? I'll take him. But I'd rather have Fransico Elson.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#23 » by BlaZeN27 » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:37 pm

I'm sorry but he's everything we don't need. I watched him and the Lakers a lot, the guy is flat out awful. Hes not good at a single thing, and hes only decent man defender. He still doesn't make make the proper rotations, and doesn't contest drives. And Blount is AWFUL defensively, we all know this. But his post defense is probably his best thing defensively because of his athleticism and his length. Kwame is NOT that much better of post defender. He is only a good post defender because his size and natural quickness. I'm warning all Heat fans right now, see how we complain about Ricky Davis, Smush Parker, and Mark Blount right now? I guarantee you that we will end up doing the same exact thing if we end up getting Kwame.



But I think this is all irrelevant know, we don't have enough to sign him.


EDIT: 13 PPG? As a 4th option? Have you watched this guy play?
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#24 » by theFRANCHISE » Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:55 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Yes. Give him the LLE and be done with it. As bad as this sounds, he's an upgrade for us at center...


oh god no, you might as well sign michael olowakandi or benoit benjamin, they even put up better numbers than this guy
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#25 » by Heat3 » Wed Jul 9, 2008 11:14 pm

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I don't see how you can be so quick to dismiss him given what we saw from this team last year.


Kwame Brown is EXACTLY what we saw from this team last year:

Report to camp out of shape, play dumb losing basketball, pout about it, show a basketball IQ of zero, show no heart whatsoever, miss the remaining 41 games to injury, and thus force us to play a D-leaguer in your place who shows more heart and hustle than you ever have.

But wait, his 8th year in the league might be different than the first seven! Lets give him millions and find out!



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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#26 » by salqaddoumi » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:01 am

After hearing that 'Zo might not be around till mid season, I will take anyone at this point ... including Kwame Brown. He's better than both Mark Blount and Joel Anthony, that is all that matters.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#27 » by BFRESH44 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:05 am

Saying Kwame is better than JO-EL is blasphemous, man.
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Post#28 » by HeatSince88 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:21 am

tsherkin wrote:Kwame Brown for the LLE is a winning move.

A lot of his offensive troubles stem from being forced into playing backdown basketball, which is not his forte. When he hit the league, he was a face-up guy with a mid-range jumper... his best offensive season (in Washington during his third year) was predicated primarily on simple face-up sets and that's how he did well, exploiting his quickness. If he got back to that, he could be a comfortable and reasonably valuable 4th option at around 13 ppg.

The defense he would bring would also be quite valuable.


Last year you were praising the addition of Blount for the same basic reasons.

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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#29 » by BlaZeN27 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:38 am

salqaddoumi wrote:After hearing that 'Zo might not be around till mid season, I will take anyone at this point ... including Kwame Brown. He's better than both Mark Blount and Joel Anthony, that is all that matters.



Lol, no hes not.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#30 » by MiamiHustlin » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:24 am

In LA he was supposed to become a star, thats a lot of pressure. He can come here and be a solid role player, plus i doubt erik would get on him like riles would have.

plus, he can do this:
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#31 » by TheGreatPooter » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:07 am

first of all hes not as bad as blount and theres no point to compare him to ricky davis (different position)

the only thing blount does better is shoot the ball.

we want kwame to catch passes from wade and dunk them (which he will have to do with two hands)

we want him to guard guys like duncan and garnett in the post. hes extremely strong and could be a brian grant like low post defender. im sure he can defend the pick and roll at least 5 times better than shaq.

we also want him to get garbage points and rotate and help defensively around the rim.

who cares about blocks? (charges are just as good)

and with marion and beasley we will have some shot blocking (and dorrell if he comes back). then you add zo is coming back and then we dont have to worry about that much anymore.

he failed in LA bcuz he was traded for a complete stud in caron.

if we got him for 1.7 mil or w.e. its a huge bargain. we need a post defender and a rugged guy at center not mark blount.

riley is probably trying to figure out if he wants beasley at the 3 or the 4. once that is understood we can decide if we want to trade one of marion and haslem. weve also got to see if chalmers is going to be our pg of the future, which would help us majorly (and i think he is the guy). if we could replicate the 03-04 season i would be thrilled. riley will know when to make moves.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#32 » by jmbflame21 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:14 am

We just need a quality center that can clog the lane on defense and can at least catch some alley oops on offense. im sure riles can find a player that fits that criteria, maybe some like haywood on the wizards
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#33 » by MaRcu5 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:16 am

Another one for the bad -

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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#34 » by Flix360 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:46 am

kwame>blount, cheaper if signed on lle, and better
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#35 » by HIF » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:29 pm

Stupid to compare Blount and Kwame they play C differently;

I'm happy to keep Blount, but I would rather have a C who can play both O and D. I'd take Kwmae for his defensive presence and the fact that he can hold a position and pass. Haslem would enjoy that.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#36 » by Cracked Fingers » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:26 pm

Did someone actually type he has solid post moves? Hands down the funniest thing I have ever read on here.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#37 » by Heatmagic84 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:47 pm

Kwame isn't a cancer he's just nowhere near as good as people hoped.

We are talking about getting this guy cheap, he is worth it. I'd much rather have him than Blount. He is built like a tank and would be nice to throw at guys like Howard.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#38 » by HeatSince88 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:34 pm

Kwame isn't a cancer?

Wizards Suspend Kwame Brown During Playoffs
The Washington Wizards suspended forward Kwame Brown on Tuesday for the remainder of the playoffs.

The announcement came after Brown, coach Eddie Jordan and president of basketball operations Ernie Grunfeld met for about 10 minutes before the team's practice.

"We had some philosophical differences," Grunfeld said, "and we're putting those behind us and focusing on the job at hand."

Brown won't travel with the team or participate in any practices for the remainder of the season. The Wizards are tied with the Chicago Bulls 2-2 in their Eastern Conference first-round series. Game 5 is Wednesday in Chicago.

"We're not going to get into specifics. We're going to do things a certain way. These players are committed to that," said Grunfeld, referring to the remaining players on the roster. "And those are the type of players we want around us."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2 ... id=2052486

Kwame Brown Threatens to Punch Teammate, Skips Practices, Pretends to Be Sick During Playoffs
Late in the season, criticism increased; Brown feuded with Gilbert Arenas, other teammates, and his coach Eddie Jordan. The local press did little to help the situation, and he became even less popular with fans.

During the first round of the 2005 playoffs, in which they played against the Chicago Bulls, the Wizards played a video before their first game of the series, in which Arenas instructed the fans not to boo Brown when he entered the game. The fans complied, even though Brown played only four minutes in the game. In the next several days after the game, Brown skipped a practice and a shootaround, as well as the next game, claiming that he thought he would punch Arenas if he entered the game. He skipped another practice with a supposed stomach ailment, only to be seen later that night at a Chinese eatery. The Wizards responded by suspending Brown for the rest of the playoffs."

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Kwame Brown Out Late During Lakers/Suns Series, Accused of Raping Woman
LOS ANGELES -- Police are investigating sexual assault allegations against Los Angeles center Kwame Brown, who started in the Lakers' playoff game Tuesday night against Phoenix shortly after releasing a statement proclaiming his innocence.

The alleged assault occurred early Saturday, hours after the Lakers beat the Suns in Game 3 of their NBA playoff series, Los Angeles Police Department spokesman Jason Lee said Tuesday.

Police did not say when the report was filed or by whom. No charges have been filed, and Brown denied any wrongdoing in a statement issued through the team office Tuesday night.

"I want to assure everyone that I am completely innocent of any wrongdoing and look forward to the truth coming out when this matter is fully investigated," he said. "However, on the advice of my attorney, I cannot comment further at this time."

The 24-year-old Brown started the game in Phoenix, where the Lakers lost but still hold a 3-2 advantage over the Suns. Brown scored 14 points on 6-for-6 shooting, but was plagued by foul trouble.

"We are aware of the release issued earlier today by the LAPD," the Lakers said in a statement. "However, due to the fact that this is an ongoing legal matter, we cannot comment at this time."

Lee said the Los Angeles County district attorney's office had been made aware of the investigation, but declined to provide further details.

Los Angeles coach Phil Jackson said before the game that he had spoken with Brown about the matter.

"I did say something to Kwame: 'You know we have three priorities -- basketball, basketball and family. That's it.'"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2 ... id=2430850

Kwame Brown Steals a Cake, Throws It at the Guy, Speeds Off in Limo
HERMOSA BEACH, Calif. -- A man walking down the street at bar-closing time with a $190 cake in his arms claimed Los Angeles Lakers center Kwame Brown swiped his birthday treat.

But authorities said the cake caper won't be prosecuted.

In a police report, Alexander Martinez said he left his 30th birthday celebration at the Shore Restaurant and Lounge at about 1:45 a.m. Saturday with the uneaten 2-by-2-foot cake and walked north toward the Blue 32 nightclub.

Martinez told police he first came upon Lakers forward Ronny Turiaf, who he said agreed to pose for a photograph with him and the chocolate cake.

But outside of Blue 32, the 6-foot-11, 270-pound Brown came along, grabbed the cake and threw it at Martinez, according to the report. Brown got into a white limousine and left, Martinez claimed in the report, although he didn't suggest any reason for the cake toss.

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Kwame Brown Arrested, Disruptive With Police, Charged on Two Counts
Early on Saturday, September 29, 2007, Brown was arrested after his cousin Charles Warren Jr. was pulled over by police and charged in Valdosta, Georgia after being caught driving the opposite direction down a one-way street. A police spokesperson said that during the investigation, Brown told police the car belonged to him and that he was not in the vehicle at the time of the incident. He became disruptive and tried to interfere with the inquiry. Brown was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and interfering with a police investigation.

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Phil Jackson: Kwame Brown Complaining is "Not Unusual"
Kwame Brown briefly practiced Thursday though he won't play tonight against Indiana and probably won't play Saturday against Washington, Phil Jackson told the Los Angeles Times. Brown is coming back slowly from an ankle injury. "He's complaining, but that's not unusual," Jackson said.


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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#39 » by CaliHeat » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:41 pm

^^^^ HAHA, good post.
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Re: Heat interested in Kwame Brown ? 

Post#40 » by IndoorOutdoor » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:50 pm

rumor is we are giving him 2 years LLE. Some bum is reporting it on hoopshype forum

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