You guys signed Roger Mason

HitMan52 · Post #21 » by **HitMan52** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:29 am

I thought the spurs were going to go after Sasha Vujacic

dlts20 · Post #22 » by **dlts20** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:07 am

Wiz fan here and this is what I wrote on another SA board:

You guys got a beast in Mason. Dont believe the naysayers, this kid can play. I honestly believe that he may be the best shooter in the NBA. He just doesnt miss and if you put that with Duncan then its perfect. I was the only one saying this last year but I was so mad that he wasnt starting for us at the point with Gil out. AD was killing us with his lack of J. No one guarded him so it really hurt us. Everytime he was out and Mason started then we looked great just like when Gil was playing because he could stretch the D. Then our 2nd unit was hurt bad because it had no PG and thats where AD wouldve been perfect. Mason played the point on the 2nd unit but is clearly not one. On our 1st unit it doesnt matter because Deshawn has some PG skills and we have guys like Caron & AJ who you just throw it to and they make things happened.

I could see him playing "some" point for you guys because you have a big man in Duncan who you can throw it to but he definatly doesnt have the handles to play the point. At the 2 he is money though. He may not be the athelete you guys wanted but Im telling you that he is one of those tricky guys that gets it done. He looks real slow but always seems to be able to get in the lane and he finishes very well. He just has that type of game and is very heady. I could seriously see him starting at the 2 for you guys if you want to continue to bring Ginobli off the bench but he would probably be better on the bench if your going to bring Ginobli in quick. He is a very solid defender unless he has to guard the really quick PG's but he's very good at guarding 2's on the wing. I heard some of you guys comments but you are wrong. He is not Unduke or Buford. This kid can really play. He's had a ton of games with atleast 3 treys and he's not Bruce Bowen on O like some of you think. He can shoot on the move and can easily get his shot off by himself

Ballings7 · Post #23 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:13 am

Thanks for the insight

alexb618 · Post #24 » by **alexb618** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:25 am

over/under on the spurs trying to trade this guy in the next off season?

from corey maggette to some guy we have never heard of called roger mason in a matter of days... things are not looking good in SA

Ballings7 · Post #25 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:29 am

If you follow the NBA enough, then you should probably know something about him...

Just because he may not be known to some, doesn't mean he's a "scrub" or something like that.

alexb618 · Post #26 » by **alexb618** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:47 am

point is, a maggette-like player will probably be enough to give us a great chance of a couple of titles

this guy will probably be fine but will he push us over the top, absolutely not

another wasted off season

UDRIH14 · Post #27 » by **UDRIH14** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:52 am

dude at least his deal is cheaper than the heats jame jones deal for a spot up shooter....

DBMethos · Post #28 » by **DBMethos** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:15 am

I'm a bit lukewarm on this acquisition...only time will tell, I guess.

the southern dandy · Post #29 » by **the southern dandy** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:36 am

I think this guy can definitely take over Finley's role, Barry's at the very least. I found a pretty nice scouting report on the net.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA ... t-2--2685/

Overview: Mason has put in the work and made himself one of the best values in the league as a hired gun. His shooting from the perimeter, both set and off the dribble, is amongst the best in the league. Mason takes most of his shots from 3-point land, but has become deadly using the pick-and-roll game to get off one and two dribble attempts.

Strengths: Mason is an excellent scorer off the bench. He has just about every shot necessary to impact a game offensively when he’s got it going, mostly from the perimeter. He is one of the better shooters in the league at making challenged jump shots. Washington likes to use him as a big guard for his size on offense, which makes it easier for him to get off clean looks at the basket.

Defensively, Mason is a pretty solid man defender-especially when matched up against back-up PGs. His length and size are a problem for opponents and he keeps them working on the other end of the court because of his constant motion. Mason is good at pressuring jump shots and doesn’t give his man a lot of open looks. Washington uses him very effectively in his role, which increases his effectiveness on that end of the court.

Weaknesses: Mason isn’t much of a driver, so when his shot isn’t falling he doesn’t give you much offensively. He rarely gets to the free throw line. He isn’t a playmaker for others, so the offense really has to find him in order to impact the game. He can also be somewhat of a chucker, forcing shots even when he’s not hitting.

Mason’s high energy approach to the game limits the length of time he can be effective defensively. The longer he goes in a game the less aggressive he becomes on that side of the ball. Surprisingly, he doesn’t get taken advantage of that frequently as his initial intensity usually softens his opponent’s aggression.

It surpises me that he's viewed as an energy guy. I thought he was laid back. Also the more I read about his defense, the more im certain that he will be a massive upgrade over Finley in that department.

johnnyjohnnyjohnny · Post #30 » by **johnnyjohnnyjohnny** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:16 pm

I just don't like the amount of money that we're paying him, considering our needs at this point.

UDRIH14 · Post #31 » by **UDRIH14** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:48 pm

johnnyjohnnyjohnny wrote:I just don't like the amount of money that we're paying him, considering our needs at this point.

compared to the james jones signing, we got a player who can play PG/SG/SF, offense and defense....

james jones got +4m per season....

now if we can get kalenna for 1.85m the rest of left over MLE, than that be sweet....

FINLEY has to go imo....

DBMethos · Post #32 » by **DBMethos** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:17 pm

Weaknesses: Mason isn’t much of a driver, so when his shot isn’t falling he doesn’t give you much offensively. He rarely gets to the free throw line. He isn’t a playmaker for others, so the offense really has to find him in order to impact the game.

And that's different from our other guys how? As much as I screamed at the TV last year for guys to stop shooting 3's and take it to the damn hole, I can't believe the FO would go out and get a guy that does the same exact thing.

ceperez · Post #33 » by **ceperez** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:42 pm

Plusses: The guy can shoot the 3 with feet set or off the dribble. Finley, Barry, Udoka, Parker, Horry can't hit the 3 with reliability off the dribble. He knows how to play the pick and roll. He also can play the point and protects the ball well and isn't turnover prone. He also doesn't need to have the ball long to be able to score. What we need are people who can stretch the defense and shoot under pressure. We also need a guy who can adequately defend the bigger guards.

With both Parker and Hill under 6'2", Mason's a complimentary guard who can defend hit the 3 when these two penetrate. Let's be real, Parker can't be stopped with single coverage.

Minuses: Not athletic. Can't make his own shot. Doesn't rebound. Does't penetrate. Doesn't pass.

Summary: Decent pickup. I'm guessing we didn't spend the MLE, but used the LLE with a raise on the 2nd year (similar to Bonner's contract). The Spurs main deficit now are people who can bang the boards and defend the post. That weakness was highlighted in our trouble with New Orleans and our loss against the Lakers. That also was the problem with Lakers versus Boston, Boston stretched the defense w/ it's 3 point shooters (Allen, Posey, House) and crashed the boards with (Powe, Perkins, Brown). Who's going to crash the boards for us and defend the post? Mahinmi, Gist?!

Wizards2Lottery · Post #34 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:03 pm

Mason is clutch. A lot of our fourth quarter runs were started by Mason hitting consecutive threes in a row.

Whenever we went into offensive droughts, he was usually the guy to come off the bench, hit a few threes and get everyone going.

If the Wizards didn't have Nick Young behind him, he would have been resigned at the same cost but for a longer deal. He's well worth it.

dlts20 · Post #35 » by **dlts20** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:37 pm

I think all of you will be shocked by his penetration skills. He's definatly not a all out slasher like Maggette but he's definatly not getting enough credit for his drives. He will definatly take the ball to the whole way more then those scouting reports say and despite not being a great athelete, he always finishes very easy and most of the time they are reverse layups that you dont expect. He will hit a few jumpers but if you run at him, or give him a lane off a pick then he will definatly take it to the rim. He's also a way better passer then those reports show. He's not a typical PG playmaker that can get guys involved but he's very savy. Again, off the pick or if he's hot then he's very good at driving and dishing in the lane. You guys will be pleasently surprised at how well he plays

HarlemHeat37 · Post #36 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:01 pm

I saw him play a lot for the Wizards this season, and there's no doubt he's a good player..my only problem is that I would have rather gotten Azubuike, because he fits the team better..

Mason is a huge upgrade over FInley though, so at least we got something out of this off-season..

sabonis · Post #37 » by **sabonis** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:44 pm

everybody is saying mason is a great shooter, but as far as I've seen him play, he ain't that good of a shooter, in fact he is streaky, if he's hot he makes 10 consecutive shots then all of a sudden he could cool down and miss 8 consecutive ones

I'm from Turkey so it's rather hard to watch many nba games here, but I think I watched 20 or so Wizards games this year. That's my thoughts on Roger Mason.

JWizmentality · Post #38 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:28 am

ssaboniss wrote:everybody is saying mason is a great shooter, but as far as I've seen him play, he ain't that good of a shooter, in fact he is streaky, if he's hot he makes 10 consecutive shots then all of a sudden he could cool down and miss 8 consecutive ones

I'm from Turkey so it's rather hard to watch many nba games here, but I think I watched 20 or so Wizards games this year. That's my thoughts on Roger Mason.

BS my friend. Mason's bad games were few and far between. Behind Jamison, Mason was one of our most consistent players. We always knew what we were going to get from. I don't think you guys overpaid, and guarantee you'll be more than pleased with Mason next season.

sabonis · Post #39 » by **sabonis** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:30 am

yeah it's always nice to say BS about someone's thoughts. great. but he is streaky, he isn't a steady open 3p shooter. that's for sure. I hope I'm wrong and hope he'll shine with TD there. but I really doubt it. giving mason major part of the mle is a mistake imho...

lukeridenour · Post #40 » by **lukeridenour** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:33 am

ssaboniss wrote:yeah it's always nice to say BS about someone's thoughts. great. but he is streaky, he isn't a steady open 3p shooter. that's for sure. I hope I'm wrong and hope he'll shine with TD there. but I really doubt it. giving mason major part of the mle is a mistake imho...

no offense.. but i think im gonna go with a wizard fans thoughts rather than yours..