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What the heck is going on? 

Post#1 » by moofs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:18 pm

Andrew Bogut: 5 Years, 60 Million (Ridiculous)
Ronny Turiaf: 4 Years, 17 Million (Bad)
Corey Maggette: 5 Years 50 million (Overpaid but somewhat reasonable)
Baron Davis: 5 Years, 65 Million (Reasonable)
Desagana Diop: 5 Years, 31 Million (Stupidly ridiculous)
Chris Duhon: 2 Years, 6.5 Million (Reasonable)
James Jones, 5 Years, 20 million (Overpaid but somewhat reasonable)

Discuss, if you can.
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Post#2 » by bubba » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:24 pm

this crap happens almost every year. teams get depserate and sign some mediocre player to a contract they dont deserve. after 2 years, some of these teams are gonna try and trade these players. maggette's contract is ridiculous, and bogut's is downright terrible. classic case of overpaying for talent and not getting that much in return from the players. there are few exceptions (brand, maybe josh smith) but for the most part these free agents are getting way more than they're worth
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Post#3 » by ShaY » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:42 pm

Duhon got full MLE for 3 years I believe.
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Post#4 » by RaoulDuke79 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:48 pm

My guess is teams are overpaying scrubs in a desperate attempt to compete against Stern and his dirty deeds in order to have a semi-legit-not-really-though chance in hell of winning.

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Post#5 » by Ribalding » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:56 pm

Every time I see one of those crazy deals get signed, it makes me smile. Why?

One less team w/ the $ to sign Landry.

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Post#6 » by BaYBaller » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:03 pm

None of those are as bad as Rashard's contract. In fact I think those are all somewhat reasonable outside of possibly Bogut (who I think is good, but not 12m good).
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Post#7 » by moofs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:17 pm

Ribalding wrote:Every time I see one of those crazy deals get signed, it makes me smile. Why?

One less team w/ the $ to sign Landry.

Keep 'em coming, NBA GMs. We love you here in Houston.


Haha true. Still drives me nuts trying to figure out where they find the stupidity or motivation for some of them.
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Post#8 » by King Roosk » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:29 pm

Ribalding wrote:Every time I see one of those crazy deals get signed, it makes me smile. Why?

One less team w/ the $ to sign Landry.

Keep 'em coming, NBA GMs. We love you here in Houston.


I won't rest assured until Indiana throws a fat wad of cash elsewhere because they seem to be our main competition for Landry.

Duhon's deal is correct as Moofs posted, 2 years for 6.5 mil. And I could be mistaken, but I thought Bogut's contract was worth 72 mil instead of 60.

It's ridiculous, but it seems to be the new NBA. Oh well...
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Post#9 » by bubba » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:28 pm

bogut's contract is for 72 mil. what a joke.
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Post#10 » by moofs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:43 pm

Found a link that explains Bogut's deal. Turns out the money actually goes to help subsidize his invisible assistant rebounder crew. Some guys will do anything to cheat. It's pathetic.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zc11PUnFgkQ
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Post#11 » by HTown_TMac » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:50 am

moofs wrote:Found a link that explains Bogut's deal. Turns out the money actually goes to help subsidize his invisible assistant rebounder crew. Some guys will do anything to cheat. It's pathetic.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zc11PUnFgkQ

I thought he hired miming trainers or something comes to find out he see's dead nba players... not good. :(
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Post#12 » by 2fast4u » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:10 am

what the heck is goin on with these players that're paid big $$$ bucks and im stuck with this ave. income/mediocre salary. :(
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Post#13 » by HTown_TMac » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:03 pm

Should have practiced your fundamentals more...
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Post#14 » by cavsfan_osiris » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:29 pm

I thought this thread was going to be about the rumors Detroit is trying to get TMac.
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Post#15 » by moofs » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:43 pm

cavsfan_osiris wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about the rumors Detroit is trying to get TMac.


You mean the fan-originated rumors with no grounding in reality? :)
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Post#16 » by A.J. » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:54 pm

Jerome James started it!
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Post#17 » by J2DaReala » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:48 pm

moofs wrote:Andrew Bogut: 5 Years, 60 Million (Ridiculous)
Ronny Turiaf: 4 Years, 17 Million (Bad)
Corey Maggette: 5 Years 50 million (Overpaid but somewhat reasonable)
Baron Davis: 5 Years, 65 Million (Reasonable)
Desagana Diop: 5 Years, 31 Million (Stupidly ridiculous)
Chris Duhon: 2 Years, 6.5 Million (Reasonable)
James Jones, 5 Years, 20 million (Overpaid but somewhat reasonable)

Discuss, if you can.



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Post#18 » by Amel » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:25 pm

I dont agree with the Diop and Maggette decisions

others are reasonable, Boguts upside is underrated...the guy is already a beast at his age..not polished enough but has a lot of potential
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Post#19 » by 2fast4u » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:06 am

What's next?:

Luther Head: 5 Years 80 million (Overpaid but somewhat reasonable)
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Post#20 » by BuckedRocket » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:46 am

Andrew Bogut: 5 Years, 60 Million (Ridiculous)

Being a Bucks and Rockets fan i think i can provide a bit of insight to this..minor over-reaction to Boguts contract. Bogut's contract is actually fairly reasonable considering he IS the 2nd best TRUE center in the east and his constant improvement every year. When he first came into the league his defence was one of his major weaknesses, last season as well as providing IMO above average post defence he was in the top 10 (i think) in BPG as well as drawing numerous charges. He is also one of the best passing big men in the league and if he gets his college stroke back, then he'll be a real beast, he has really under-rated potential and has improved every year in the L.

As to the 72 mil King pointed out, that's if Andrew reaches the incentives put in his contract. The incentives can range from anything from games played to reaching the ECF. Most of the bucks board including myself hopes that one of the main incentives is his FT% improving, which will hopefully bring back his mid-range J.

Hope i helped !

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PS. Diops contract :o

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