Elton Brand is no Carlos Boozer

[imahustla]

http://mvn.com/nba-cavaliers/2008/07/11 ... he-jackal/

I can't believe people are arguing how what Brand did to the Clips is even remotely close to what Boozer did to Cleveland. I disagree with the author and don't think that Brand is a saint, but he's certainly no Boozer. Nothing can compare to what Cavs fans went through with that lying SOB four years ago.

[5DOM]

verbal agreements for the loss

[Guy986]

let it go cav fan. Let it go...

[PlinkingPanda]

It started off well, but ended pretty badly. Elton "offered" to take less to get Davis. Go listen to the interview with Dunleavy on ESPN. It's not as bad as Boozer, but still a pretty bad. Also whoever wrote that(if it's you OP). Don't compare ANYONE's contract to Rashard's. Everyone damn well knows he's not worth that much and is severely overpaid.

[loflin3hree5ive]

Brand is just a puppet who let David Falk talk him into the idea that the Clippers were trying to screw Brand over by negotiating without Falk. Brand was easily manipulated and obviously has some doubt in himself that he can make the right decision without others making it for him. I feel bad for him and anybody who will influenced by a decision of his in the future.

Boozer is much worse than Brand. The Boozer situation is like say you're dating an ugly girl for example. And say you spend thousands of dollars in cosmetic surgery on your girlfriend because you want a long-term relationship with her and you want her looking good for a real long time. And then before she even gets home to show you how good she looks after your major commitment gave her an inappropriate opportunity to do so, she runs off with the first good looking guy she meets who she never would have had a chance with before you hooked her up. That is the equivalent of what Boozer did.

[Malinhion]

It's just a bunch of bitter whiners mad that their organization couldn't hold onto a player that they shouldn't have had in the first place. Ignore them. The situations are scarcely alike.

[imahustla]

It's just a bunch of bitter whiners mad that their organization couldn't hold onto a player that they shouldn't have had in the first place. Ignore them. The situations are scarcely alike.

What do you mean "shouldn't have had" in the first place? I take it you're one of those know-nothing, big market honks that thinks that all the good players should be in the big cities and that teams like the Cavs don't deserve anybody. We drafted Boozer in the second round when nobody wanted him, then he blows up and stabs us in the back. But then again, I wouldn't expect you to understand anything rational.

[Truthiracy]

I respect Elton Brand now.

[erudite23]

All of that crap is superflous bull ****. The only claim against Carlos is that he didn't make good on an agreement that was illegal to begin with. So a) it did happen, and the Cavs are idiots for doing it, because had he turned around and re-signed with them they would have been subject to league sanctions for collusion in violation of the CBA and b) it didn't happen and they are idiots for thinking it did. Either way, the Cavs are the ones to blame. Carlos was a free agent. He took the best offer available. Whether or not he made any promises, there is absolutely zero substantial proof of any foul play. Quit blaming a person's so-called "loyalty"--or lack thereof--for your organization's incompetence.

[Cybulski37]

All of that crap is superflous bull ****. The only claim against Carlos is that he didn't make good on an agreement that was illegal to begin with. So a) it did happen, and the Cavs are idiots for doing it, because had he turned around and re-signed with them they would have been subject to league sanctions for collusion in violation of the CBA and b) it didn't happen and they are idiots for thinking it did. Either way, the Cavs are the ones to blame. Carlos was a free agent. He took the best offer available. Whether or not he made any promises, there is absolutely zero substantial proof of any foul play. Quit blaming a person's so-called "loyalty"--or lack thereof--for your organization's incompetence.

You really think the Cavs wouldn't pick up a 695,000 dollar option on Boozer? Really?

[Hard2dhole]

Cav's fans need to understand many of us will never feel bad for them trying to make an illegal deal and having it backfire on them. The Cavs knew they couldn'y pay both Z and Boozer the next year and tried to keep Boozer by ending his current contract and throwing out a low ball amount compared to his market value. It doesn't matter if he "said" he would resign until it's on paper it don't mean a thing. Congrats you violated the CBA but lucky for you it wasn't on paper or you would have been like the wolves after the Joe Smith debacile no draft picks for 8 years.

If you want to complain go complain that your management lost him a year early because they tried to screw the rest of the NBA.

[BiggMann]

You really think Boozer would take $695,000 instead of a five year $60+ life changing, contract. I'm so sick of talking about this it's making me sick... people see betrayal, but ANYONE in that same postion wouldnt have done ONE thing different. Anyone can say they wouldn't take the money, because you've never seen a contract with your name on it that will guarantee finacial security for your family for generations to come. Please drop it, this is a businesss... not a loyalty issue.

To think that Brand and Boozer are similar in this situation is obsurd. Brand took more money, and to be honest it's a better situation; he's in the east where he will dominate night in and night out, and win. In the west his numbers would be up, but win's would be down. So everyone is getting on Brand for taking more money to go to a better team, a Playoff team. I just dont get it.

[Hard2dhole]

You really think the Cavs wouldn't pick up a 695,000 dollar option on Boozer? Really?

Then they should have done that but the next year Boozer would have been a unrestricted free agent and he would have walked as the Cavs had no cap space and had made it clear he was never going to be more then a 3rd option behind King james and Big Z.

I don't care that your owner is blind because we could say that the owner tried to screw Carlos out of millions and now is trying to use the sympathy card to trash Boozer's rep.

[Malinhion]

What do you mean "shouldn't have had" in the first place?

I mean they've disrespected him so much in contract negotiations in the past, that I'm not really willing to believe whatever side of the story that Dunleavy is spinning.

I take it you're one of those know-nothing, big market honks that thinks that all the good players should be in the big cities and that teams like the Cavs don't deserve anybody.

We're talking about leaving a team in Los Angeles. Where the hell are you coming from with this?

We drafted Boozer in the second round when nobody wanted him, then he blows up and stabs us in the back. But then again, I wouldn't expect you to understand anything rational.

I was talking about Elton, not Boozer. Boozer definitely screwed the Cavs by indicating that he would take a new deal so they wouldn't extend him, and just give him a release. Then once he convinces the team to set him free he bolts for more money. Douchebag? Yes. But technically the Cavs screwed themselves by trying to go under the table in the first place.

Brand was a free agent of his own accord. He had the right to go wherever he damn well pleased.

[GuyverX]

It's just a bunch of bitter whiners mad that their organization couldn't hold onto a player that they shouldn't have had in the first place. Ignore them.

"Shouldn't have had in the first place?" Judging from your sig, I'd say you're just bitter about the Clippers matching Miami's offer sheet some 5 years ago.

Brand was a free agent of his own accord. He had the right to go wherever he damn well pleased.

He was an unrestricted free agent and could go anywhere he wanted but that doesn't mean he isn't a lying, low class guy for going back on his word. Those are two entirely separate things. He continues to lie now by placing all of the blame on the Clippers and how they supposedly "didn't give him enough love." He just changed his mind. That's fine. Stop with the lies, Elton.

[ConverseChris]

He pretty much is Carlos Boozer now in my eyes.
No class at all, don't say you are going to go somewhere unless you are fully going to go there.
Pathetic

[ConverseChris]

My Atlanta Hawks to win it all.

[GuyverX]

So everyone is getting on Brand for taking more money to go to a better team, a Playoff team. I just dont get it.

Nope. We're down on him because he offered to take the paycut to play with the Clippers and then went back on his word. The money has nothing to do with the controversy. He actually ended up taking less money when it was all said and done.

[hoops4life]

This is hilarious.

These guys are terrible for what any normal human would do. They went with the best offer.

Clippers are such a great team for screwing him over for years...

[Hard2dhole]

I wish Elton the best in the Leastern conference. It means my team has to deal with him only twice a year now.