what would jack bauer do? wrote:Artest is a blackhole/ballstopper. Lamar is a chemistry guy that grabs 10+ rebounds a game and knows how to pass the ball. Every team that Artest goes to has internal problems that eventually lead to them not making the playoffs. The Lakers are much better suited going after a good locker room presence like Prince with Odom/Farmar/future 1st. You guys are smart for not offering Artest a huge contract and just letting him expire next year. No doubt Artest has better ability to play and defend at SF, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would trade for him other than the Lakers- especially after his antics this summer, last summer, the year before, and the year before that. He would fit with the Lakers offense because he wouldn't have to be a ballstopper in LA and he'd work in with Kobe and Phil. I mean it might make both teams better, but why in the world would the Lakers want to give Odom to Sactown? As former "rivals", we would probably want you guys to be stuck with Jason Thompson, Kenny Thomas, Mikki Moore, Shelden Williams, and SAR. Besides you guys are clearly in rebuild mode. It might be best if the Kings just let him walk or trade him for a future 1st.
Ron's "ballstopping" is the most overblown thing on RealGM since "lawl Webber callz timeout he is choker lawl!" At least now. A very high percentage of Ron's shots this year were on plays designed to isolate him. This was clear.
But of course, that's not nearly as absurd as suggesting that the Kings haven't made the playoffs because of Ron and any kind of locker room problems that he has created (he hasn't created any really at all). The Kings were +.500 last year with Ron, and the last time we made the playoffs, Ron deserved most of the credit.
SacKingZZZ wrote:No, where Ron is at as a player he doesn't fit the direction we are headed. You can't just tell Ron to, "go to the corner and wait for the ball", or, "look for a place to cut and we'll get you the ball." He wants to be Kobe Bryant or TMac on offense. That type of player has no place on this squad. He isn't at that level offensively, and never will be. All around he is a tremendous player but he doesn't fit and it's painfully obvious.SacKingZZZ wrote:No, where Ron is at as a player he doesn't fit the direction we are headed. You can't just tell Ron to, "go to the corner and wait for the ball", or, "look for a place to cut and we'll get you the ball." He wants to be Kobe Bryant or TMac on offense. That type of player has no place on this squad. He isn't at that level offensively, and never will be. All around he is a tremendous player but he doesn't fit and it's painfully obvious.
I'm glad that we're inside Ron's brain here. It's not like Theus was constantly calling plays to get Ron isos last year, right? No, I'm sure Ron just wanted to be the star.
And you can talk all you want about Geoff going after some types of players that could fit into a Princeton type offense, but the fact of the matter is that you can't run an offense that your coach doesn't really know. I mean he can learn it to a certain extent, but you can't build your team around an offensive system unless the staff really, really knows it. The only two teams that I can think of that were really built around a specific offensive system recently were the Lakers with the triangle and the Kings with the Princeton--and both teams had guys on the bench who literally invented the offenses.
