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Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#1 » by euromagic » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:08 pm

Obviously not as the Starting 5, but it would create huge matchup problems for the opposing Starting 5, and wouldnt be too bad on defense....

Howard
Battie
Pietrus
Lee
Hedo

Wheras Hedo would play the point, and guard the opposing SF. Pietrus and Lee would guard the wing players.....
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Post#2 » by Max Power » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:17 pm

If Lee and Peitrus are the defenders we hope they'll be I see no reason why this linep wouldn't be effective in certain stretches.
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Post#3 » by MilBucksBackOnTop06 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:23 pm

Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!

You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.

You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...

But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.

However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.

You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.

I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#4 » by DontPushMe » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:32 pm

euromagic wrote:Obviously not as the Starting 5, but it would create huge matchup problems for the opposing Starting 5, and wouldnt be too bad on defense....

Howard
Battie
Pietrus
Lee
Hedo

Wheras Hedo would play the point, and guard the opposing SF. Pietrus and Lee would guard the wing players.....

PG isnt a wing position, wing = SG and SF

not a bad lineup though, cant be used for too long though
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#5 » by theTHIEF » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:40 pm

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!

You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.

You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...

But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.

However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.

You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.

I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:


he's talking about Courtney Lee...calm down...the majority of your post is ridiculous...Maggette was offered the full MLE by Orlando apparently, which is more than Pietrus got, so I don't know where you read your info, but I would recommend never reviewing that source again. Corey signed for far more than the MLE, and rightfully so, it sucks, but it was to be expected.

as for the lineup, what about the $100 million dollar man?
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#6 » by drsd » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:09 pm

Lee in a starting slot over Lewis???
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Post#7 » by EasternMagic » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:10 pm

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!

You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.

You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...

But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.

However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.

You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.

I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:

1. Courtney Lee, our draft pick.
2. Ya we should build our team like the teams we easily surpassed last year... mmhmm
3. I think I will stick with Dwight
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5. Maggette was reportedly offered the full MLE (more than Pietrus) but went to GS for more money
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Post#8 » by Victorious » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:25 pm

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!

You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.

You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...

But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.

However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.

You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.

I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:


You are a clown to say the least. You must be the most ignorant person basketball wise that I have met and thats bad. I dont even feel sorry for you, you clown.

But to the original question...I hope you dont meant that to be our starting lineup, but at some point in the game if the situations right that lineup might be seen.
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#9 » by damo[23] » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:40 pm

drsd wrote:Lee in a starting slot over Lewis???


He said it was just a lineup be used not a SL.

As for the OP - it could work theres certainly no real concerns on defense match ups really - offensivily it would be interesting - i'd like to see what lee and MP are like in season. Could be something to use anyway.
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#10 » by MitchellUK » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:04 am

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!


Courtney Lee, our draft pick.

And why do we need to adjust to what Toronto and Washington have done? As much as JO and CB4 will create mismatches if we play Howard and Lewis against them, we conversely create mismatches for them by forcing one of them to defend the perimeter. It is a two way street. We need to add another big body to our rotation, through free agency, but we also have a returning Tony Battie, who may not be a glamourous player, but is a solid enough post defender to cover someone like Jermaine O'Neal for 10-15mpg whilst Dwight rests.

Also, why would we need to adjust to Washington? They have made no great strides this offseason, just re-signed their own free agents whilst hoping Gilbert Arenas comes back.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.


Dwight's 'no jump shot shooting self' does stay close to the basket. And he dominates there. Have you actually watched any Magic basketball?

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...


Why do we need one of those? I am not saying that they wouldn't fit here, but that's not how we run our offense.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.


We do struggle when Dwight is in foul trouble. But that is no different to any other team losing their marquee player. You might as well say that Cleveland struggle when Lebron is out, or San Antonio struggle when Tim Duncan sits. Bonus points to you for stating the obvious. Battie and Gortat, and a third big body to be named (assuming we sign one) should be able to pick up a little of the inside banging and rebounding slack when Dwight sits. They aren't going to replace him, but if they can get some rebounds and play some D, then they are fulfilling their role. We have plenty of other scorers to put Dwight's points on the board.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.


And how exactly are the Raptors going to get Marion? With what? They haven't the assets to match his contract, unless Miami plans on giving him away a la Pau Gasol and Memphis - and Riley is not going to help push an Eastern Conference team to the next level. Not now, not ever.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.


Maggette wasn't going to come here for the MLE when GSW put a big contract on the table. Pietrus is probably a better fit at this point - he is already a better defender than Maggette, with the potential to get much better at stopping opponents. Maggette's MO is one of being a scorer - we already have 3 20ppg scorers on this team. What could he have given us as a fourth option? Pietrus will bring a little supplementary offense, and improve our perimeter D and rebounding, at 80% of the MLE. He was a good pickup.

Why oh why would we want Marbury? The guy has taken failure with him wherever he has gone. He is not going to accept being a 4th option on this team. We're better off without him.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:


Oh no! We should change our roster to counteract ONE PLAYER!! Are you serious? Arenas is a good player. But jeez, if we overpaid Rashard (and we did), the Wizards have WAY overpaid Arenas. He is a classic 'volume scorer'. Yep, he'll get his 25ppg (assuming he is healthy), but he will do it jacking up bad shots and shooting 42%, playing mediocre to poor defense, and consistently turning the ball over. Weird how the Wizards had a better record in 2008 without Arenas than they did in 2007 with him.
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#11 » by magicfanatic23 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:11 am

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!

You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.

You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...

But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.

However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.

You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.

I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:



[we dont name call on RealGM] has no idea what he is talking about. You seriously have really no good points. Trust ME you do not know what you are talking about. Lets change our team to keep up with Toronto and Washington? Haha I hope that was a joke.


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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#12 » by SpaceCoastGator » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:30 am

I'm taking more of a wait and see approach to CLee. I think that we tend to have hyper expectations for rookies. Summer league success is not always a one to one indicator. I just hope that he is good enough to get into the eight or nine man primary rotation. He is going to have beat out guys that have been in the league and are working hard to earn their minutes as well. You ahve to figure that the starting lineup will be D12, RL, Hedo, MP & Nelson with Battie, and our backup PG wil be the first seven. If Lee is the third of four guy off the bench (in his first year) then he will have very done well in my estimation.

I think it is early to building lineup featuring him. I think that he is going to be a good player for us, but weneed to be realistic...of course there is more work to be done on the roster as well.
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#13 » by euromagic » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:37 am

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!

You have to get Howard's no jump shot shooting self near the basket until he can develop some sort of mid-range game.

You need a big time high post Center and passer like a Brad Miller, Primoz Brezec or Mehmet Okur type to stretch the defense and hit a jumper or two. With Battie you have defense...

But you are too undersized and too soft if Howard gets in foul trouble. No team can make a bigger leap if they get the right piece then your team because Howard is a MONSTER.

However, you better hope the Raptors don't get Marion or it is all over for your team. The Wizards already can score with you, and outrebound you, so you had better get someone like the guys I mentioned to complement Howard.

You should have given Maggette what you gave Pietrus if you could have. However you did well with Pietrus. I would look to pick up Marbury if he is released immediately if I was you.

I see you all rollin your eyes already, but remember my friends, you need to match up with Arenas and that Wizard backcourt! Jameer Nelson nor Jason Williams is gonna get it done my friends.

Trust me... :noway:


Actually I did did mean David Lee............. (kidding) obviously I meant Courtney....
I guess it all depends on Cournteys development.... I don't trust summer league stats just yet (JJ tore last season up and still wasn't able to find playing time last season....)
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#14 » by glennathan » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:41 am

"MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:
Lee?

Who the hell is Lee? David Lee? No you dont do this foolishness...Your team like I said has to look at your divisonal riavals Toronto and Washington and see how they are built and adjust accordingly!"



I was hoping someone else would have pointed this out but I guess I will. TORONTO is NOT our division rival. Washington yes but NOT TORONTO. Try to get the info correct if you are going to dog on our team.

Just thought I would point that out.
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Post#15 » by RickB-Orlando » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:14 am

So back on-topic, I don;t think the lineup works very well. What you really wind up with (most likely) is Hedo guarding the 3, MP the 2, and Lee the 1 - lots of pressure on the rookie, and he probably is not up to that task.

Plus, as someone else pointed out, you've apparently decided to start - well, someone - over Lewis, which isn't going to be happening. If Hedo isn't moved for a big, traditional, defensive PG, or a solid starting PF, then the threesome of Howard, Lewis, and Hedo are almost a lock to be in the starting lineup. Pietrus is pretty close to a given as well at the 2, and I don't see us benching Jameer for Lee.
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Post#16 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:53 pm

Thats an interesting lineup, i can see it happening during the middle of the game.

The lineup that I cant wai to see is this one:

Dwight
Battie
Lewis
Hedo
Jameer

and this one:

Dwight
Battie
Lewis
Pietrus
Hedo

Thats a hugeeee lineup.
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Post#17 » by trebone » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:13 pm

hedo
pietrus
shard
battie
howard

can shoot rebound, wing d is not that bad with mp out there
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#18 » by theTHIEF » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:15 pm

yea I can't wait to see Hedo vs. Chris Paul or Hedo vs. Deron Williams or Hedo vs. Devin Harris...
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Post#19 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:38 pm

theTHIEF wrote:yea I can't wait to see Hedo vs. Chris Paul or Hedo vs. Deron Williams or Hedo vs. Devin Harris...


That lineup would be matchup wise. Not starting lineup or anything like that. And not against little quick guards like Paul and such. Like only 5mins during the game aginst the right matchup. Come on thief be open minded. :D
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Re: Do you think this lineup would work? 

Post#20 » by theTHIEF » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:41 pm

that sure looks like a starting lineup

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