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What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG

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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#21 » by UCFknight84 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:02 pm

all the athletic pg's would blow right by him
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#22 » by MitchellUK » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:15 pm

RawTalent wrote:The question isn't whether he can bring the ball up or pass the ball well, it's whether he can stop the man in front of him. regardless of being a PG or a SG he can't. But the difference is can he score more in his time on the floor than the man he's guarding? Because if he can, then his liability is less of a deal than his scoring potential. And we ALL know he produces when he's on the floor. That is and never will be a question.


That might be the case on a less offensively stacked team, but in Orlando he will never be more than 4th option behind Dwight, Rashard, and Hedo, who are all far more potent offensive threats than JJ. Redick's ability to outscore his opponent means nothing if his opponent gets the touches and chances to put points on the boards, and JJ doesn't.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#23 » by mhectorgato » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:20 pm

RawTalent wrote:The question isn't whether he can bring the ball up or pass the ball well


Isn't that a considerable part of being a PG?
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#24 » by CraZyPraiZ » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:30 am

I think most people underestimate JJ. You guys talk about defense as if we defended anyone last year. Our defense as a whole was horrible last year. I watched all the games last year and to to be honest JJ's biggest fault is that he is always trying to help out on defense instead of just staying with his man. I think he can learn to play some defense as he gets stronger and works on his basics. I still think he will be a contributor somewhere in this league. So here's to trading him for someone useful and hoping JJ torches us every time we see him in the future.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#25 » by MitchellUK » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:37 am

CraZyPraiZ wrote:I think most people underestimate JJ. You guys talk about defense as if we defended anyone last year. Our defense as a whole was horrible last year. I watched all the games last year and to to be honest JJ's biggest fault is that he is always trying to help out on defense instead of just staying with his man. I think he can learn to play some defense as he gets stronger and works on his basics. I still think he will be a contributor somewhere in this league. So here's to trading him for someone useful and hoping JJ torches us every time we see him in the future.


Check out Hollinger's team stats on ESPN. We ranked tenth in the NBA in defensive efficiency last season, and were only 0.3 points per 100 possessions away from being 6th.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#26 » by magicfanatic23 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:24 am

mhectorgato wrote:
RawTalent wrote:The question isn't whether he can bring the ball up or pass the ball well


Isn't that a considerable part of being a PG?



Yea I would say that is pretty important lol. Those are necessary for any good PG. If not, get off the court.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#27 » by Scottg247 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:22 am

Victorious wrote:Creator of this thread should not be aloud to post ever again. Youve been shunned.


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Post#28 » by Orange Ave. » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:36 am

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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#29 » by mhectorgato » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:36 am

Victorious wrote:Creator of this thread should not be aloud to post ever again. Youve been shunned.


Can he post quietly in the future?
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#30 » by trebone » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:48 am

at this point it is worth taking a look at but proably not going to happen.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#31 » by SpaceCoastGator » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:02 am

I don't think it is likely or a good idea, but it is not a horrible post thought. I just read how hard he is working...who knows...we still need two PGs...some have suggested CLee playing spot minutes at point. I have seen lots and lots of worse posts.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#33 » by craig01 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:18 pm

No chance.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#34 » by KingRobb02 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:07 pm

He's a much better defender, passer, and dribbler than Steve Kerr and that guy lasted 15 years as a point guard. Eddie House just helped the Celtics win achampionship when he can't even dribble well enough to make it past half court if the defense ever decides to trap. A good coach can find a role for JJ. In the NBA, defense isn't about one on one matchups. There are 5 guys on the court for a reason. Do you thing the Celtics were the best defensive team in the league becuase they had Eddie House and Sam Cassel locking down the poitn guard position. Even Rondo isn't a great lock down guy (he's moreso there to create havoc). The key will be finding a way to cover JJ weaknesses while takign full advantage of his strengths. Even Travis Deiner played 20 minutes ber game last year, and he couldn't guard my little sister.
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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#35 » by theTHIEF » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:07 pm

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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#36 » by drsd » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:48 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:He's a much better defender, passer, and dribbler than Steve Kerr and that guy lasted 15 years as a point guard. Eddie House just helped the Celtics win achampionship when he can't even dribble well enough to make it past half court if the defense ever decides to trap. A good coach can find a role for JJ. In the NBA, defense isn't about one on one matchups. There are 5 guys on the court for a reason. Do you thing the Celtics were the best defensive team in the league becuase they had Eddie House and Sam Cassel locking down the poitn guard position. Even Rondo isn't a great lock down guy (he's moreso there to create havoc). The key will be finding a way to cover JJ weaknesses while takign full advantage of his strengths. Even Travis Deiner played 20 minutes ber game last year, and he couldn't guard my little sister.


I agree with all these points. Further, the local press has reported that Redick is absolutely ripped now. Somehting like 5 hours a day in the gym is what I read. He has done everything he can to make/force Stan-the-Man play him. Good!

I think GM Smith is reluctant to trade Redick simply because JJ is so obsessed with making it in the NBA. That obsession cannot be taught, and it is excellent locker-room behavior.

If Redick makes this coming team, I expect a good, solid year from him.

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Re: What about JJ getting playing time as a backup PG 

Post#37 » by Scottg247 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:23 pm

Nice to hear people not negative on Reddick. I am not a crazy reddick fan but I know talent when I see it and he is a talent and deserves to be on the court playing. In my opinion more so then Bogans.

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