Tribuite to the past... Look To the Future

[LBJ TO BK 08]

Looks like bookie isnt coming back with recent additions. After carter he was my favorite player. He was known for his shooting but what no one appericaited him for was his aggrisvesness. I loved how he used to go out and try and dunk on everyone, also i respect rj unlike that " kidd" jason he loved playin for us i hate hearin about players who would rather play for new york then there respective teams i loved rj for that he was a tru net... my two questions are 1 who do you see yi progerssing into and do you think bobby should start i remeber his days on the clips he was DIRTY and also who is gna start for us on the 4 and 5? Brook? Boone? SWIll? STRO? list goes on

[Preludepunk27]

As of today, I think this is the Starting 5:

Harris
Vince
Hayes (Possibly Yi)
Lopez (Possibly Yi)
Boone (guy with the most experience in our front court)

I think within a month of the season, Yi is gonna be starting somewhere, but I don't feel like it'll be immediately. I think Lopez has the most NBA ready body in the front court besides Boone which, even with his inexperience, will start the season at the 4. It's not like he'll get a lot of playing time though. As of right now, we'll probably have a platoon at the 4 and 5 and basically just stick with whichever kid is hot that night or match up well against the team we're playing.

As for Yi? Best case scenario he can turn into a more mobil Dirk. Worst case he could be like Nenad...he could also be like worthless Mark Blount with a better jumpshot though. I don't like to put higher expectations on the kid like a lot of other people are doing. Let's see how the kid plays in our system first them start making assumptions.

Bobby was on my fantasy team his last year with the Clippers and I loved every second of it. He's got a solid mid range jumper. As long as he doesn't play outside of himself, he'll be decent off the bench. Like Yi though, I want to see how he does in our system since Bobby has had a lot of foot injuries over the last 2 years.

[Serpo]

I think Bobby Simmons will start at SF if healthy of course thats a big if , but he's still the best SF on our current depth chart.

[LBJ TO BK 08]

but what about this after we got simmons thorn quoted him as a rotataion player
we dont have jefferson we dont have kidd
cant we sign someone bigg? or are we seriously trying to bring in lebron
ive had enough of ratner being stingy and not paying for talent

[Preludepunk27]

I personally would load up on Combo Guards and big man (which is what we're trying to do. Lebron is gonna play the 3 in our offense. No need to go after a solid SF when they'll ride the bench if Lebron comes. Only way I see us getting a legit 3 is if we get a fairly decent S&T for Krstic or we trade Vince for an fringe all-star SF/fillers so Lebron can play the 2 when he comes. As much as I love Nocioni and think he'd be fine starting the next 2 years then be a consistant 6 man off the bench if Lebron came, I don't think that's in the plans anymore from what I've been reading.

[LBJ TO BK 08]

yeh man but we cant just automaticcally get lbj clevand is gna do everything to bring him back the knicks are also making moves to clear cap space and then again how much money do we really have all we got is jayz to reel him in ...personalyy i dont like lebron i hate him... i respect his game and if the nets tried and brought him in id be happy i am not gna turn down an allstar... but i would love to see the nets build a soilid 5 man roster not build around 1 player

[Preludepunk27]

^^^ I completely agree with you. I honestly believe though that, at least this offseason, the only way we'll have a solid SF come in to play with us is if we can work a S&T for Krstic or if someone takes a package of Stro/KVH/Marcus for a solid SF/Filler. Remember we're still 2 seasons away. A lot can happen in that time. Never know what may fall into our lap. For the time being, I say we go after Artest and see hwo that plays out.

[LBJ TO BK 08]

yeh we need something i dont know if we have the weapons to get artest tho... i still cant decide on the nets this year for some reason i feel like we can be a suprise team we got alot of young talent..but then again we had kid and rj last year and we sucked...we look different mayb we will play different and win??

[Preludepunk27]

yeh we need something i dont know if we have the weapons to get artest tho... i still cant decide on the nets this year for some reason i feel like we can be a suprise team we got alot of young talent..but then again we had kid and rj last year and we sucked...we look different mayb we will play different and win??

I think we can have a similar impact that the Blazers did last year with all their young talent personally. We're still the 4th best team in our division though which still makes us a lottery team and even this year, I'm not ruling our the Knicks being better than us. Even with there turmoil, I will never rule out a team with D'Antoni as their coach. I think we'll actually be an enjoyable team to watch that other organizations know have potential...but they won't need to worry for a year or two.

[LBJ TO BK 08]

dantonis style is fun to watch but it wont be when he is running it with the knicks
Currys a fata$$
Sos randolph
shoot first point guard in marbury
This is how i feel about all Ny teams inncluding the Knicks
once an allstar comes to nyc the suck

Arod
Marbury
Delgado
BEltran
JOhan Santana
Bobby ABrue
q rich
list goes on
they all play lazy ny sports will never be winners unless
lou pinella coaches the yankees
and bobby knight coaches the knicks

[Preludepunk27]

Whoa trash Delgado all you want but don't rip my boy Beltran. Besides the first year here, he's put up decent numbers. Is he overpaid? Yes but his still a great player in my eyes. Johan just thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread.

Go Mets.

[LBJ TO BK 08]

yeh but numbers wise they have slowed down produced less...shouldnt coming to the greastest city in the world exicte them rather then slow them down

[Nets44]

I think the lineup as of today will go:

Harris
VC
Simmons
Yi
Boone

I don't see any rookies starting out of the gate and I definitly don't see a globally marketable player like Yi coming off the bench on a Rod Thorn team either.

[Preludepunk27]

We have more problems then Beltran though. Granted we're on a tear right now which is awesome, we definitely have our work cut out for us this offseason again.

[60cent]

When we are done dealing and if we happen to land a combo PG/SG, i think the line up would be like this for now:

MWilliams
Harris
Carter
Yi
Boone

... until we get a veteran C/PF.

And after a few games with Simmons, if he stays healthy of course, he will start and if not it'll Hayes. But i think Najera would be playing more minutes than any of the big guys including SF even if he's not starting. Then Lopez will work his way up sometime in the 2nd half.

Im really kinda against some of the moves because i would love to see SWill get more minutes because i think he has so much to offer, both offensively and defensively, but i trust the management and there may be some plan behind all these that we don't know about, probably building up a player for a future S & T. Im hoping that will be the case.

[jerseyjac]

When we are done dealing and if we happen to land a combo PG/SG, i think the line up would be like this for now:

MWilliams
Harris
Carter
Yi
Boone

... until we get a veteran C/PF.

And after a few games with Simmons, if he stays healthy of course, he will start and if not it'll Hayes. But i think Najera would be playing more minutes than any of the big guys including SF even if he's not starting. Then Lopez will work his way up sometime in the 2nd half.

Im really kinda against some of the moves because i would love to see SWill get more minutes because i think he has so much to offer, both offensively and defensively, but i trust the management and there may be some plan behind all these that we don't know about, probably building up a player for a future S & T. Im hoping that will be the case.

I saw this thread earlier...

and again I agree w/ 60 on most...

#1...I do not want Marcus starting at this point, unless he has superman summer...
#2 Harris, Carter and Yi are all locks for starting positions...
#3 you start Bobby if he's healthy game 1 of the season...
#5 if Bobbys not healthy Hayes starts...
#6 I like Boone starting, I think Lopez can make a transition ...Krstic is a big ? in my eyes...and I love to see SWill get some more minutes, but there is a lot of competition...

[jeff1624]

I actually want Najera to start at the 3. With yi at the 4 we're gonna need najeras defense BAD.

[jerseyjac]

I actually want Najera to start at the 3. With yi at the 4 we're gonna need najeras defense BAD.

I understand your angle here...and I dont doubt us utilizing ED for his defensive presence in a starting lineup here and there or even through larger stretches of certain games...but, I think we have to play to our strengths, not worry about matchups or a defensive presence...we have to put a team out there that will create mismatches as a unit...

if the Nets were worried about a more balanced starting lineup, we would of went after a guy like Nocioni...who knows, maybe will make another move to obtain that guy for that lineup, I just dont see Najera as a starter...but we've all seen stranger things happen when players have throw on a Nets uni...our organization has shown a consistency to ask more than we should from certain players we've picked up over the years...so I guess it wouldnt surprise me...

[jerseyjac]

With the Nets about to officially put their roster count at 16...lets talk trade (did I really say that), though I know most of you guys are already aware of this situation...

I'm interested in keeping young talent, though I agree another veteran player would help this team...this veteran player who the Nets may be interested in adding, will replace 2 of these 3 before the season's start...its obvious Marcus William's shortcomings and Dooling signing puts him in the thick of trade talk, Boone being expendable at this point is an option to be packaged and with Sean still raw and unpolished he could be gone before season end...unless something goes down with Nenad...

The Nets are said to be looking to package Williams and one of their other young players, such as forwards Josh Boone or Sean Williams, for a veteran. They still have eight players on their roster with two years' or less experience in the league.
Daily News-Julian Garcia

[Preludepunk27]

At this point, if I HAD to move Sean or Josh, I'd move Sean. Josh proved last year he can be an immediate help to our team. Yes Sean has the upside to be great...but he could also end up like Stromile Swift. If we got good value for him (because even though I said I'd rather get rid of Sean over Josh doesn't mean I'm just gonna deal JUST to make a deal) then I'd be fine. I'd hope we could put either Stro, KVH or Hassell's contract into the trade too. If we was just Sean and Marcus, we'd only be able to grab a vet in the 4-5 mill range. If we can package any of the 3 I mentioned, we can grab a guy in the 8-10 mill range from a team maybe hoping to get younger or land some guys with upside while unloading a guy that doesn't really fit into their team mold anymore.

With what I just said though, what guys could you see us going after that fits into this situation? If we're trading a big like Josh or Sean, are you anticipating on us trading for a true vet big (because Najera is not a true 4...not a true 3 either though) or a combo forward (i.e. Al Harrington/Nocioni) or possibly a package consisting a guy with a contract we can manage (see: Simmons) and a young prospect we feel can turn it on before Marcus or Sean were (see: Blatche even though I'm pretty sure he's off limits right now. Just curious to see what you guys think.

I'm also still playing around (again a snow balls chance in hell) of figuring if hypothetically we were able to land a guy like Josh Smith in a S&T for a package of Marcus/Sean/fillers and would we still have cap room in 2010 for a max player. The ony way probably would be the eventual trade of Vince for prospects/expiring within the next 2 seasons. Again, won't happen but it's fun to research.