stayin true to our style..fast and tough d

docwasoverated · Post #1 » by **docwasoverated** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:40 am

how that we have a style of play..lets not add a shooter that doesnt fit.ex. i want mccants instead of carrol .if givin a choice. we still are a running team first so all our smalls should be able to run. bigs with a special talent may not hurt our style as much.ex rasheed and his shooting.all i am sayin is be true to your style..

Post #2 » by **dbodner** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:50 am

1) I disagree (Not all 5 players on the court need to be running the fast break all the time. You need trailers as well. I'm not going to pass on a player if he's not a great transition player)
2) I disagree with your username
3) Your username is misspelled.

docwasoverated · Post #3 » by **docwasoverated** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:09 am

dbodner wrote:1) I disagree (Not all 5 players on the court need to be running the fast break all the time. You need trailers as well. I'm not going to pass on a player if he's not a great transition player)
2) I disagree with your username
3) Your username is misspelled.

1 and 2 are up for debate but 3 is just weak

ankle420breaker · Post #4 » by **ankle420breaker** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:16 am

Our core players can play in transition.... adding a specialist who isn't known for running won't affect our style. More than likely, whoever we add will be a role player getting limited minutes off the bench. Assuming we add a shooter or two via free agency, we'll have limited resources to work with and won't have the luxury of choosing players who can shoot, play in transition, and play tough d.

Post #5 » by **tk76** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:54 am

dbodner wrote:1) I disagree (Not all 5 players on the court need to be running the fast break all the time. You need trailers as well. I'm not going to pass on a player if he's not a great transition player)
2) I disagree with your username
3) Your username is misspelled.

As for #2, Out of curiosity, I'll bite. How exactly was he overrated? Compared to what?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... nju01.html

His per 36min career NBA averages were about 23/7/4 with 2 stl and 1.6 blks, shooting 51% from the SF spot. Compared to another prototypical highlight reel HOF SF like 'Nique he had better FG%, Assts, Stls and Blocks, while leading his team to much great success. He was pretty much your ideal SF in any era- and that ignores that his 1st 5 seasons spent in the ABA and the impact he had to the style of the game as well as its reputation (he had both the funk and was a statesman of the game.)

His teams averaged about 55 wins while going to the finals 4 times. Not really any holes in his resume as a HOF player, but you are entitled to your opinion.

CPops57 · Post #6 » by **CPops57** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:06 am

4) I'm not expecting English professors to post here, but it would be nice if certain people made an effort to capitalize words, post complete sentences, etc.

docwasoverated · Post #7 » by **docwasoverated** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:14 am

i havnt made a post about my username...and i dont think i will..you have your stats and maybe ( are you old enough?) memories of doc playing and i have mine.so someday if we are sharing some beers maybe that would be the time to compare ...but not here on a sixers site..peace

Post #8 » by **tk76** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:13 am

barkley34 · Post #9 » by **barkley34** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:44 am

dbodner wrote:1) I disagree (Not all 5 players on the court need to be running the fast break all the time. You need trailers as well. I'm not going to pass on a player if he's not a great transition player)
2) I disagree with your username
3) Your username is misspelled.

His user name is fine. Doc Rivers was definitely overrated.

psykosacul · Post #10 » by **psykosacul** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:23 am

barkley34 wrote:His user name is fine. Doc Rivers was definitely overrated.

honestly, i thought he did mean doc rivers until i read Tk's post. with doc now coaching boston and how new docwasoverated's profile is i thought he was celtic hating. (and bravo if he was)

as for keeping to our style... im more worried about the defense part than the running. i agree with dabods's notion that guys can and should have different strengths on the court, but as far as defensive mentality/ability, ... i guess im just very reluctant to give that up, even for a strong shooter.

an example would be richard hamilton. im not very down on iggy, but i think if you replace him with hamilton, this squad goes the ecf for sure. because you get all the offensive talent you need from the 2guard and still get defensive effort and proper knowledge of what to do.

being a running team is exciting and all but we need to hold onto the defensive aspect. defense creates transition opportunities anyway. we learned that in 2001 especially.

Post #11 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:18 pm

docwasoverated wrote:
dbodner wrote:1) I disagree (Not all 5 players on the court need to be running the fast break all the time. You need trailers as well. I'm not going to pass on a player if he's not a great transition player)
2) I disagree with your username
3) Your username is misspelled.

1 and 2 are up for debate but 3 is just weak

Nah man you should definitely look into getting that changed.

STChaser · Post #12 » by **STChaser** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:55 pm

Can we leave this Richard Hamilton thing alone? Serious, the guy is a great offensive talent BUT I'd take Iguodala over him any day. Defensively, you can't even compare the two. Out of curiosity, how much older is Hamilton than Iguodala too? I fear that many of you are getting the Larry Brown virus; let's start trading away all our pieces for seasoned vets. We already have Brand and Miller. That is ENOUGH veteran leadership on this squad.

STChaser

eyeatoma · Post #13 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:17 pm

STChaser wrote:Can we leave this Richard Hamilton thing alone? Serious, the guy is a great offensive talent BUT I'd take Iguodala over him any day. Defensively, you can't even compare the two. Out of curiosity, how much older is Hamilton than Iguodala too? I fear that many of you are getting the Larry Brown virus; let's start trading away all our pieces for seasoned vets. We already have Brand and Miller. That is ENOUGH veteran leadership on this squad.

STChaser

I whole-heartedly agree. We get any older, the youth movement is officially over...

Post #14 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:50 pm

If we get Rip we also have to get Khalid-el Amin, Maggette, Shane Battier, Trajen Langden and Ricky Moore and have all them with Brand recreate the 99 title game.

docwasoverated · Post #15 » by **docwasoverated** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:41 am

when mutombo came here he hurt our style.ratliff was much faster and was a fit . mutombo may have been viewed as the better player but he didnt make us any better than ratliff. i would argue it was a bad trade...cause we didnt stay true to our style! there are more examples ...anyone?

Post #16 » by **Sixerscan** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:52 am

we traded ratliff because he had a broken wrist

83SixersRocked · Post #17 » by **83SixersRocked** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:54 am

docwasoverated wrote:when mutombo came here he hurt our style.ratliff was much faster and was a fit . mutombo may have been viewed as the better player but he didnt make us any better than ratliff. i would argue it was a bad trade...cause we didnt stay true to our style! there are more examples ...anyone?

He was the defensive player of the year that year if I'm not mistaken. Theo was injured, and hasn't done much (unfortunately) since then. They traded him at pretty close to peak value, all things considered. Without Mutumbo, there would have been no NBA Finals for the 6ers that year. Theo wouldn't have gotten us there after that either.

The 6ers went for it, and it was a helluva ride. The city was energized like it hadn't been in years...since...Doc?

Oh, and...
"There is no such thing as a perfect basketball player, and I don't believe there is only one greatest player either. Everyone plays in different eras. I built my talents on the shoulders of someone else's talent. I believe greatness is an evolutionary process that changes and evolves era to era. Without Julius Erving, David Thompson, Walter Davis, and Elgin Baylor there would never have been a Michael Jordan. I evolved from them."

from http://www.armchairgm.com/Michael_Jordan_Quotes

My two cents.

docwasoverated · Post #18 » by **docwasoverated** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:15 am

cmon peeps...when we traded kk minutes for thad minutes we were stayin true to our style..anymore examples

Post #19 » by **Sixerscan** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:17 am

Korver was traded because we needed cap room to sign Brand. We did better because Thaddeus Young is a better basketball player than Korver, in any style.

docwasoverated · Post #20 » by **docwasoverated** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:30 am

Sixerscan wrote:Korver was traded because we needed cap room to sign Brand. We did better because Thaddeus Young is a better basketball player than Korver, in any style.

cmon scan..dig this ..george mcginnis was way better ( statwise) than bobby jones ..but jones fit the teams style better than george...better team style can defeat better players without a style of play