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Current view of how we've done in the free agent market: 

Post#1 » by TheCelticsMan » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:39 am

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! Fellas, I didn't expect pose to re sign with us anyway. I knew PJ was going to retire. IMO, house is also a crucial re-sign, yet his future in boston isn't looking too bright. he showed all the doubters with his extremely smart ball handling and play making during the playoffs. All I can say is patrick o'bryant, ok. a big with still a decent amount of potential. if clifford ray can't get his ass into gear, no one can. but does anyone look at how young our bench is right now? I think we need to pursue maurbury. I know the guy is a total headcase, but look at moss when he came to the pats, dillon when he came to the pats, winning shuts the mouths of these stereotypical cancers. I think he's a better punch off the bench...IF he can learn how to play off the bench and learn the meaning of ubuntu. Anyway, look for a couple swaps before the trade deadline. I don't think theres too much more we're going to be able to do.
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Post#2 » by JR Hawks » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:44 am

I'd give Danny an "F" for the offseason so far.

Looks like he's falling in love with the babies again.

My guess is Paul, KG and Ray are starting to get a little annoyed. Can't blame them.
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Post#3 » by SonicYouth34 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:47 am

No Marbury, if we're signing a head case we need to grab Ricky Davis. At least Davis has talent and we know what we're gonna get with him.

I say we stick with a young bench, Detroit had a young bench last year and the Lakers had a relatively young one too. I say we get a vet PG (Lue?) and big man (Ratliff?), that way we have a anchor in the post and a smart vet controlling the offense.
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Post#4 » by Rocky5000 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:53 am

^ You don't think Marbury has any talent? :crazy:
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Post#5 » by SonicYouth34 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:02 am

Not anymore, he's done and dusted
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Post#6 » by Bad-Thoma » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:48 am

JR Hawks wrote:I'd give Danny an "F" for the offseason so far.

Looks like he's falling in love with the babies again.

My guess is Paul, KG and Ray are starting to get a little annoyed Can't blame them..


Way to completely invent something, then agree with it
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Post#7 » by threrf23 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:00 am

There's still a long way to go in the offseason. At this point a year ago, our offseason was also looking fairly unimpressive, despite the trade that sent Ray Allen our way.
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Post#8 » by Ed Pinkney » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:04 am

An "F"? Really? I don't agree. We lost Posey but Danny was right not to cave on the number of years to an aging role player. Maggette was a pipe dream at the price we were offering. Players like Lue are no big loss either. OBryant is a much better option than Pollard (see dictionary for "Stiff") as he is much younger and has a lot more talent and potential.

There are still plenty of names out there of interest. And Giddens and Walker are unknown stock as of yet.

I trust with our core returning from last year, the experience of a successful playoff campaign under the belt of Rondo, Perkins, Powe and Davis, and the additions Danny will add before training camp we will be just fine.
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Post#9 » by rambo_ortega » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:41 am

he has been patient. we have to get players at the right price because we have the big 3 locked up and eating tons of our cap space. posey's deal was so expensive for us. believe me, we would get nice players in the end.

we can still get chil,pargo,azubuike,nachbar,barnes,dooling,geroge,wells.

there are still a lot out there. if you remember, we were in this situation after getting kg and ray last year but pulled off nice deals in the end which brought us the championship.
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Post#10 » by TheCelticsMan » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:43 am

rambo_ortega wrote:he has been patient. we have to get players at the right price because we have the big 3 locked up and eating tons of our cap space. posey's deal was so expensive for us. believe me, we would get nice players in the end.

we can still get chil,pargo,azubuike,nachbar,barnes,dooling,geroge,wells.

there are still a lot out there. if you remember, we were in this situation after getting kg and ray last year but pulled off nice deals in the end which brought us the championship.



only ones worth my time on that list. and isn't juwuan howard also a free agent?
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Post#11 » by MyInsatiableOne » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:15 pm

I agree it's too early to give Danny a final grade for the offseason, but so far, a big fat F
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Post#12 » by Tricky Ricky » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:18 pm

Its a little too early for this, last year at this time we still had no KG, lets not panic
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Post#13 » by MyInsatiableOne » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:23 pm

^^I agree. I was just saying that today, as of today, he has an F. Still plenty of time for him to bring that grade up! 8-)
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Post#14 » by Ed Pinkney » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:39 pm

No way is it an "F". That is ridiculous. He didn't overpay for Posey and we have very limited options when all we have to offer are the MLE and minimum contracts.
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Post#15 » by Prophet_C » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:40 pm

I don't get how he's getting a bad grade. There's not that much out there. I knew Posey would go elsewhere, House is replaceable and I think we keep TA. I think he's doing a good job actually for not overreacting/overpaying for Posey and I actually like the PO Box signing (credit to whoever on the board made that up)

Bottom line is that Danny isn't done yet and we still have the MLE.
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Post#16 » by canman1971 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:47 pm

The Celtics just won title 17 and people still feel the need to bash/criticize Ainge. He let a role player go! Oh my god, you act like he just traded KG for Nene or something. The Cs, as long as they have PGA will be fine. It is summer, maybe it is time for some to get out and enjoy it. Some people just enjoy being miserable.
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Post#17 » by underneathtoDJ » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:26 pm

I completely disagree. Losing Posey is going to be tough, sure. But to give him 4yr/$25M or anywhere close to that wouldn't have been smart for a 31 yr old 6th man. We'll certainly miss his clutch shooting and phenomenal defense (how many charges did he take?), but how effective is he going to be in his age 34 and 35 seasons? He's going to get slower (already not a big strength), has never averaged more than 8 something points a game and has become almost a strict 3 point shooter.

Take a look at John Hollingers latest article regarding the signing, he too thinks the contract given to Posey wasn't smart and goes on to cite some very good reasons why.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... ets-080716

Other than Posey, what else would you have like to have seen Ainge do? It's not like we missed out on anyone that people have been clamoring for. Maggette was a pipe dream, Duhon doesn't shoot well enough to be Rondo's backup, and I'm not seeing any other signings that make me wonder why we didnt pursue the player, either for financial or performance reasons.

So far, I can't give Ainge a grade, its an I for incomplete. It's wayyyyy too early to be giving out grades.

And to JR Hawks, who said "My guess is Paul, KG and Ray are starting to get a little annoyed. Can't blame them." I'm pretty sure Paul, KG and Ray are all pretty happy right now. In case ya missed it, they just won their first championship.
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Post#18 » by TommyPoints » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:30 pm

The reactionary in me wants to freak out since we've missed out on Maggette and now Posey. You dont want to make any stupid deals though, but at the same time we need to give this team the best chance to win while we have a window for it. Come on Danny!
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Post#19 » by lojowo » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:30 pm

http://www.wagesofwins.com/UFA2008.html

Looking at this list, I dont think Danny had many options until he straightened out the Posey resigning issue. Now that Posey is with the Hornets, its time for some slim pickings again.

Dont forget, the Celtics didnt sign anyone till after the Garnett deal, starting around August 1st, so Im not shocked that this has taken as long as it did.

I think we still need veterans off the bench at both PG and Wing and maybe a Big:

Top choice based on this on the board:

K Thomas- Id sign him
B Wells- Head Case, not sure I want him
M Ruffin- Do we need another Big man in a pf body
G Hill- I'd Sign him
E House- I'd resign him
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Post#20 » by GreenGrizz » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:40 pm

No need to push the panic button. I think AInge knows what he is doing. We gotta play young players if we are able to use their trade valuves before the deadline.

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