What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now?

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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#21 » by JordansBulls » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:53 am

Blame Rasho wrote:They are trying to pay less in lux tax simply... AI is prolly gone next year and they are going to start over.


If they are going to start over then the Nuggets should just go ahead and trade Melo and Iverson along with Atkins to the Bulls for Rose, Gordon, Deng and Hughes so that they are not paying the luxury tax and have some flexibility in the future.

Lineup would look like this:

Bulls
Hinrich/Atkins
Iverson/Thabo
Melo/Nocioni
Gooden/Tyrus
Noah/Gray


Nuggets
Rose/Green
Gordon/Smith
Deng/Kleiza
Kmart/Jones
Nene/Hunter
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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#22 » by dockingsched » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:59 am

that deal sucks, time to drop it after the 20th time :lol:

you haven't even shown how it would even work financially.
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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#23 » by jazzfan1971 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:22 am

They're putting a lot of hope in Nene. We'll see if it pays off.

I think AI is next. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded to NY. Marbs and Lee for him maybe. Maybe AI for Curry. Who knows?
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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#24 » by Ballings7 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:38 am

AI/Crawford/Randolph/Curry

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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#25 » by JordansBulls » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:12 pm

dcash4 wrote:that deal sucks, time to drop it after the 20th time :lol:

you haven't even shown how it would even work financially.



Considering what has recently happened with Denver I am not quite sure they will keep all of the guys that they currently have nor I am convinced that they will try to win it all in the near future.
With that in mind here is a proposition to get Melo and AI to the Bulls.


I know most may be against the idea but here me out.


As you can see I really want Melo and AI on the Bulls and would literally give up anything for them.


The Nuggets trade Melo and Iverson along with Atkins to the Bulls for Rose, Gordon, Deng and Hughes it gives Denver a better future in the loaded west and it gives Chicago a francise player in Melo.


Lineup would look like this:


Bulls
PG Hinrich/Atkins
SG Iverson/Thabo
SF Melo/Nocioni/Nichols
PF Gooden/Tyrus/Simmons
C Noah/Gray



Nuggets
PG Rose/Carter
SG Gordon/Smith
SF Deng/Diawara
PF Kmart/Kleiza
C Nene/Hunter



What does this mean?

Well if we consider that the salary cap is at around $59 million this year and $71 is around the luxury tax it would mean that the Bulls current team would have the following funds to pay for this season.

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Player            [B]2008/2009   2009/2010   2010/2011   2011/2012   2012/2013   2013/2014
Kirk Hinrich    $10,250,000    $9,750,000    $9,250,000    $8,250,000    N/A   N/A
Andres Nocioni    $8,000,000    $7,500,000    $6,850,000    $6,650,000    $7,500,000    N/A
Drew Gooden    $7,151,183    N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
Tyrus Thomas    $3,749,880    $4,743,598    $6,256,806    N/A   N/A   N/A
Joakim Noah    $2,295,480    $2,445,680    $3,128,536    $4,239,167    N/A   N/A
Thabo Sefolosha    $1,931,160    $2,759,628    $3,816,565    N/A   N/A   N/A
Cedric Simmons    $1,742,760    $2,671,651    $3,742,277    N/A   N/A   N/A
Demetris Nichols $886,517    N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
Aaron Gray    $711,517    N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
Carmelo Anthony  $14,410,581    $15,779,912    $17,149,243    $18,518,574    N/A   N/A
Allen Iverson    $20,840,625    N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
Chucky Atkins    $3,240,000    $3,480,000    N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
Total Salary    $75,209,703               $49,130,469             


Now Chicago could do a few things here. We could just let Iverson walk after next season and wait for the 2010 free agent class or we could resign him, guess it depends on how we would do with that roster above. The only problem is that we would be in luxury tax situation, however we could just trade Simmons and Nichols to keep us under the luxury tax.

I think the big thing with Reinsdorf and Paxson is that they don't pay the luxury tax not that we can't go over the salary cap.


Remember in 2010 which is the year of the free agents it seems our Salary as it stands with the players we have is around $49 million, which means we could still have a good $20 million to sign a key player like Amare or Wade or Dirk to pair with Melo.


The possibilites are limitless with this deal if we were to pursue it now.
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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#26 » by tsherkin » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:06 pm

Anyone else see that Wiretap headline about the Nets' offer for Camby? Makes you REALLY wonder WTF they're doing...
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Re: What are the Denver Nuggets trying to accomplish now? 

Post#27 » by JordansBulls » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:06 pm

tsherkin wrote:Anyone else see that Wiretap headline about the Nets' offer for Camby? Makes you REALLY wonder WTF they're doing...


Yeah that is why I think they are trying to rebuild, that is why I made that trade suggestion for the Bulls to go after Melo and Iverson.
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