Portland Indiana Trade again. trade idea.

greenway84 · Post #1 » by **greenway84** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:57 pm

I've been thinking a lot about Foster and his future here. He's the oldest guy on the team. He's exp at the end of the year. We probably won't be able to compete with Spurs to keep him. Even if we could he's up there in age in comparison to the rest of our guys. He's my 2nd favorite Pacer ever. With that said. I think it's smart for us to trade. Also I think we owe it to him to do so. I was thinking:
Jeff Foster - Big Vet with and exp
FOR
Joel Przybilla - Young potential Big
Future 2nd

Why for Indiana: Well all the reason I already listed and this would sure up our C position for some time with Joel and Hibbert.

Why for Portland: We all know they need future cap space to resign Oden, Roy, Aldridge, adn I'm sure they are eyeing 2010. Also I think Foster will help Oden develop and the Blazers like us are trying to put out a prideful and respectful team. That says Jeff all over it.

dwpacer · Post #2 » by **dwpacer** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:40 pm

I would agree if Foster was well into his 30's, but he's only 31 years old. True he's the oldest member of this squad, but he also it's top rebounder and that is something you can't replace so easily.

Think about it like this, nobody thought much of Dennis Rodman and his skills and knack for getting to the ball until he was helping to win three NBA championships, ya know.

Foster shouldn't be traded, we should give him the full complement of an extension and let him finish his career here as best as possible.

RMoreau35 · Post #3 » by **RMoreau35** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:42 pm

I'm a Portland fan, heres my take: the short answer is no.

Pryzbilla is the perfect backup for Oden and fits nicely onto our second unit of primarily shooters/scorers as he rarely shoots. Furthermore he is an inside presence and force that we really need to keep.

About the money issue. We will have a ton of money next summer to sign F/A whether it be someone new or resign our players. Paul Allen has also proven in the past that he will spend any amount of money to keep his team together as long as their contenders, so money isn't really an issue as he'll match anything to keep the team together if they can prove themselves.

greenway84 · Post #4 » by **greenway84** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:44 pm

True But we dont have a jordan pippen or phil jackson. lol.

But seriously, Am I the only one that thinks we are merely renting foster this season. I honestly think another team will offer him something we cant match. Not too mention I'm sure he wants a ring.

And trust you me. I think very highly of foster I hate losing him, but im thinking furthur out then this season. Bottom line id rather get something for him than to just let him walk.

dwpacer · Post #5 » by **dwpacer** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:48 pm

RMoreau35 wrote:I'm a Portland fan, heres my take: the short answer is no.

Pryzbilla is the perfect backup for Oden and fits nicely onto our second unit of primarily shooters/scorers as he rarely shoots. Furthermore he is an inside presence and force that we really need to keep.

About the money issue. We will have a ton of money next summer to sign F/A whether it be someone new or resign our players. Paul Allen has also proven in the past that he will spend any amount of money to keep his team together as long as their contenders, so money isn't really an issue as he'll match anything to keep the team together if they can prove themselves.

Unfortunately, the chances that money will be spent on Granger will be somewhere between slim and none. Why would he go to a team for big money being no greater then the #3 option behind Roy and Oden where he'll be the no. 1 option here.

Wizenheimer · Post #6 » by **Wizenheimer** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:55 pm

blazer fan here,

I'm not sure the if blazers would do this or not. First, your implied assumption that portland would need to move pryzbilla to extend roy, aldridge, and oden probably doesn't have much merit. Paul Allen wouldn't be too concerned about that. And Pryzbilla's contract is only slightly more then an MLE-level contract. That's not bad for a 7'1 center who plays excellent defense and was 3rd in the league last year for rebounding rate.

On the other hand, Portland's GM has apparently been pointing for major cap-space next summer. As things stand now portland could have 20-27 million in space while only sacrificing 1 of their bench rotational players. However, if Darius Miles does find a team willing to roll the dice on him, the Blazers could lose 9 million of that space. In that case they may be interested in this deal, although I'm not sure they'd do it if they were certain Foster would sign with another team next summer.

As far as Foster helping Oden develop, Pryzbilla could do that as well. And I doubt either one would be able to 'teach' oden much on the offensive end, especially in shooting. Neither one of them have much of an offensive game except off the glass and setting screens.

I don't think portland would be interested enough in this deal to add a draft pick though. And I'm wondering if the Pacers want to take on Pryzbilla's contract. Although with Foster and Rasho both having expiring deals, the pacers might be left centerless in 09/10 if things don't work out.

Post #7 » by **Grang33r** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:04 pm

I'm not too sure if Larry Bird will deal Jeff Foster. He said his core players are not available, i think at this point only players who may be available are Tinsley, WIlliams and Daniels.

Foster actually fits our team real good. At PF with Hibbert or at C with Murphy at PF. It's not the greatest solution, but the best we got now i think. He's a great role player.

I think if we don't make the playoffs next season, at the trade deadline, they will deal Foster to a team like Denver or Utah, for a first round pick and whatever else it needs to make it a complete deal. Chad Ford last deadline day kept saying how much value Foster has and many teams were interested. A year older Foster won't kill his buzz, but it may be enough for the Pacers to realize he won't be a part of their future.

basketballwacko2 · Post #8 » by **basketballwacko2** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:24 pm

i like pryz but foster is exp so we need to keep him, I don't see any up side in pryz game seems he peaked 2 yrs ago, foster is a fan fave so he stays, the only thing we need to do is trade Tinsley and play the comming 82 games.

Post #9 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:53 pm

If we feel like we need to move Foster to a contender around the deadline, then I'd look straight at Denver with their new trade exception and see if we could somehow get a 1st rounder or two out of the deal.

I'm not, however, trading Foster for a longer contract and only getting a 2nd rounder back.

I'm not so worried though about Foster signing elsewhere. If he does, good for him. He deserves a chance to win a championship. He's been a great professional here, and never given us trouble. However, he does seem to really like it here, and has set down a deep anchor in the local community that would be harder to uproot than it would be to stay here.

This reminded me of a funny story. I was at the Keystone Fashion Mall many years ago with my brother, when Foster was in his 2nd or 3rd year with the Pacers. We happened to see him in the food court with his, now, wife. He wasn't hard to miss as he's so tall, but especially because they were wearing matching gawdawful ugly Reebok workout pants and jackets. Had me a little worried about him.

greenway84 · Post #10 » by **greenway84** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:31 pm

lol thats halarious

AZ BLAZER · Post #11 » by **AZ BLAZER** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:06 pm

dwpacer wrote:
RMoreau35 wrote:I'm a Portland fan, heres my take: the short answer is no.

Pryzbilla is the perfect backup for Oden and fits nicely onto our second unit of primarily shooters/scorers as he rarely shoots. Furthermore he is an inside presence and force that we really need to keep.

About the money issue. We will have a ton of money next summer to sign F/A whether it be someone new or resign our players. Paul Allen has also proven in the past that he will spend any amount of money to keep his team together as long as their contenders, so money isn't really an issue as he'll match anything to keep the team together if they can prove themselves.

Unfortunately, the chances that money will be spent on Granger will be somewhere between slim and none. Why would he go to a team for big money being no greater then the #3 option behind Roy and Oden where he'll be the no. 1 option here.

You lost me, where did RMoreau35 comment on Granger? I looked to see if he edited his post, and he did not, so I guess you are just being paranoid. Given that you are paranoid, you obviously feel that your team can lose Granger. Why would he want to join a team and at best be a third option? Winning. It is addicting I hear, just like losing is a learned trait. I am sure he would love to make near max money on a winner vs. a loser. I am sure he would love to show his game off on national tv.

But he will be a restricted FA next year, and Indy can match, so I highly doubt Portland would waste any time trying to gt him.

Post #12 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:32 pm

All we've heard all offseason is that Portland will throw a max contract at Granger, sign him, then throw max contracts at Aldridge, Roy, and Oden, and there's nothing Indy can do about it.

We've had 5-10 threads started by Portland fans about it, or it's been mentioned in other threads. There are a bunch of visiting Portland fans that come here just to mention it. It's kind of only natural for us to assume that that was part of the intended statement.

That's why he commented on Granger.

Jack wore plaid · Post #13 » by **Jack wore plaid** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:16 pm

dwpacer wrote:
RMoreau35 wrote:I'm a Portland fan, heres my take: the short answer is no.

Pryzbilla is the perfect backup for Oden and fits nicely onto our second unit of primarily shooters/scorers as he rarely shoots. Furthermore he is an inside presence and force that we really need to keep.

About the money issue. We will have a ton of money next summer to sign F/A whether it be someone new or resign our players. Paul Allen has also proven in the past that he will spend any amount of money to keep his team together as long as their contenders, so money isn't really an issue as he'll match anything to keep the team together if they can prove themselves.

Unfortunately, the chances that money will be spent on Granger will be somewhere between slim and none. Why would he go to a team for big money being no greater then the #3 option behind Roy and Oden where he'll be the no. 1 option here.

Easy answer really. If the money is the same, he would be giving up being the number one option an a potentially good team to be the number 3-4 option on a potentially great team. Whether you want to believe it or not, Portland probably has a better chance of winning a title right now than Indiana does. At some point players want to win a ring.

Bucky O'Hare · Post #14 » by **Bucky O'Hare** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:28 pm

Jack wore plaid wrote:At some point players want to win a ring.

At some point, sure. But that point isn't coming off of their rookie contract.

As for the deal, I'd pass. Przybilla's a serviceable center, but we have 1 of those (not counting Foster) and a promising rookie as well. No need to invest 3 years and $20M into another one. Foster can also play the 4, something Joel can't do, which makes him more valuable to our team.