4 True Contenders Out West and 3 Teams that need one piece

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Re: 4 True Contenders Out West and 3 Teams that need one piece 

Post#81 » by Ballings7 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:34 am

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Ballings7 wrote:I'm not sold on the Jazz as title contenders until they improve that lacking interior defense and cut down on the fouls. The over-fouling of which is a consequence from having a shortage of team defensive quickness, and a solid presence around the basket to alter, block shots.

Boozer, Okur, Millsap, Collins, Koufos.

They have numerous big bodies, but not a big body in the form of an above-average defensive presence. None of those guys above really fit that bill - like they used to have with Greg Osterag back during the Malone/Stockton era. It seems like Fesenko could well be that consistent defensive presence at C, but he's not a factor yet. And who knows if he would be enough of one to be enough of a solution for that role (more on that below).

Also that guy would have to, if not start, finish games, because the impact of his defense will not be there when defense especially matters - late in games. But Okur is the guy at C, and then maybe eventually Koufos would take over for Okur. Or maybe Fesenko will, the Jazz realizing "we need to improve defensively".

Boozer/Okur is just not going to get it done defensively.

Not only to have that defensive guy up front in general, for the team, but also to help Boozer out, like Ostertag did for Malone.

These have been two key reasons why they've been knocked out these last two years.


Utah will never not lead the league in fouls. Sloans philosiphy is "no easy baskets"


I know that's his philosophy. But the problem is they over do it, and you get mixed results, and at times moreso negative results, playing defense like that.

Either way, they have to get better defensively, specifically up front with a solid presence, at least finishing games.
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Re: 4 True Contenders Out West and 3 Teams that need one piece 

Post#82 » by thaAteam » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:46 am

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thaAteam wrote:i actually like the rockets but they are not in an elite team, they have been in the same position the last 5 or 6 years, they dont have a pg and their pf position is still questionable and they have health issues, with yao playing year around they will always have health issues, they are not even a top ten team in the nba so lets not throw them in the conference finals, im not even sold they will make the playoffs, they have been a 6-8 seed the last few years besides last year, o and did anyone mention tmac nor yao have ever won a playoff series lol


Last 2 Season we where 5th seed with a better record than the Jazz 52 and 55 win seasons.. With Yao and Mac missing quite a few games.. So lets say the Rockets are Healthy you don't think we are a top 5 team in the league. Even if one of our players are injured we are still a top ten team.. have you seen the rockets?


plenty of times and im sorry to disappoint u but even whrn at full strength they are not a top 5 team rvrn in the west let alone in the nba and if you think they are your just kidding yourself, u cant be a top 5 team if you havent been outta tha 1st rd
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Re: 4 True Contenders Out West and 3 Teams that need one piece 

Post#83 » by DEEP3CL » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:51 am

eatyourchildren wrote:Lakers aren't a contender, please. They need to replace that bum Kobe.
Your joking right......I mean nobody can be that ignorant. Your right to breath should be revoked.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
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Re: 4 True Contenders Out West and 3 Teams that need one piece 

Post#84 » by cwas2882 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:24 pm

Sensitive much?
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Re: 4 True Contenders Out West and 3 Teams that need one piece 

Post#85 » by Malinhion » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:32 pm

Wow, Houston homers getting out of control again.

I'll believe it when I see it. I'm not reading past page two of this thread just to see a bunch of bad arguments dance around logic.

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