NBA Summer League

[W_HAMILTON]

have we ever had a pg with a decent fg%?

Jason Hart.

[fatlever]

spectre...

re: greene vs weaver - i like both guys and think we could keep both. greene can hold the fort down while weaver gets some more experience in the d-league for the first few months. i cant imagine too many situations, even if we are getting burned, where LB will be comfortable playing weaver this year. he'll be lucky to get garbage minutes. greene would be our emergency pg and would probably be in a suit most of the year. if felton or dj went down for a short time w/ injury greene would come in and play backup pg. i'm not sure i am ready to see weaver run the point in a game. he's not ready for that. i am a big time believer in having 3 true pgs on the 15 man roster at all times. we've seen too many times in our first 4 years where only having two pgs hurt us when minor injuries hit.

re: scary good on defense, at times - the key word being "at times". i think we will have some stretches of defense that will rival some of the best d this team has ever played, but hopefully less time inbetween those moments as well.

re: 10 fouls - i just think it breeds bad habits. i saw too many players giving up cheap fouls. yes, they are learning, but at times, it feels like players use the extra fouls as a cop-out to playing solid defense. most of these players are playing 20 minutes, 30 max. if you cant spread 6 fouls over 20-30 minutes, you dont deserve to play. players need to learn how to play w/out fouling just as much as they need to learn other facets of the game.

re: davidson - yeah, i was very impressed with some of his game down low. he has a really nice face up game. he just needs to perfect a go to move down low. and of course, work on his rebounding and defense as those are the things that will earn him big minutes.

[spectre_]

Assuming we're getting another C we'd have to cut Hollins to keep both. I'm ok with that, but I wish I felt better about Ajinça contributing in at least an emergency role. Either way, I'm not so much concerned with PG duties as defending the 2, sort of like what Derek & Alan Anderson did for us and the one thing we don't have. The plus is either Weaver or Greene can do that somewhat and handle the one in a pinch.

[fatlever]

The plus is either Weaver or Greene can do that somewhat and handle the one in a pinch.

exactly. both greene and weaver can come in as a defensive disruption at sg. greene is certainly big enough. i'm cool w/ weaver getting spot minutes at sg as a defensive change-up to slow down a joe johnson type, just not as an emergency pg, at least not yet.

[BRIGGS]

Wow I read you guys almost took anjica at 9 and then I heard one of your scouts compare him to wilt chamberlin? This is Fred Weiss revisited. He did not deserve to be picked in the top 60--he was a workout warrior but in reality he has no position--he's not a C---he's not a PF---he's kind of a SF who looks awkward and out of place. Someone said two year---if he is doing anything in the NBA in 5 years I will be amazed. Either Batum or Anjica will be the worst pick of round 1--

[amcoolio]

Um, Weiss and Anjica are completely different in every aspect except being French. Weiss was a unathletic white stiff big man while Anjica is a super athletic mobile shotblocker with a jumper. You are right, he is more like a PF.....a taller, more athletic Chris Bosh would be my comparison (if he becomes as good as he can be).

Nice to see you are basing your argument off yahoo.com articles...I'm curious, why come to the Bobcats board just to type that? Did Anjica steal your girlfriend or something?

[Paydro70]

Your version of Ajinça's upside made me cringe with embarassment. I'm not one to put stock into summer league, but I didn't see anything resembling potential in five games shooting .182.

I hope he pans out to our wildest dreams, but I hated the pick, and right now I'm just hoping for a short minute contributor... one day.

[DaBassSource]

Your version of Ajinça's upside made me cringe with embarassment. I'm not one to put stock into summer league, but I didn't see anything resembling potential in five games shooting .182.

I hope he pans out to our wildest dreams, but I hated the pick, and right now I'm just hoping for a short minute contributor... one day.

Yeah I hated the pick draft night....because I knew nothing about him and just figured big Euro stiff that can't get time in the French league....then I read about him and bought into the potential...but after summer league...I still just hope we don't have a bust here....He has skills, but can he apply them in a game...Maybe playing along side better players will speed his development.

[Bassman]

Hated Ajinca pick, and don't believe they were actually looking at him for 9. I think the true big targets were gone, except for Arthur, who they were scared away from based on the kidney rumor. Sad that we weren't willing to dig a little harder and, if necessary, take a "gamble" on Arthur versus Ajinca. Arthur would be pressing Davidson to start come November. I don't place any hope in McMay being able to contribute anything beyond bench duty this year, until he's hurt again. Anyone (on this board or especially in the front office) who are counting on May to be our starter at the 4 are insane.

Ajinca was the most horrible 1st round draftee in the summer league. Heck, he may have been the worst DRAFTED player in Vegas. Just a HORRIBLE reach by the Bobcats and a waste of the pick we traded away. Everyone will say "give him time, he's a project". I agree Ajinca is a project. But who are we....San Antonio? Defending NBA champs? Hell no! We needed help this season and got a guy who might significantly contribute in 3 or 4 years, if ever. That is a poor use of the 20th pick, no matter what team does it.

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Hater.

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I believe Alexis didn't show what he is capable of in Vegas. Otherwise I couldn't believe Larry Brown has eyes and brain. And I don't bite it. LB had seen something special in him before the draft. i hope we all will see it one day.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I think that Ajinca was a fallback pick. The team probably had another name targeted for that pick but the player(s) they wanted didn't fall as far as they expected ... so they took the next big man on their list instead of the BPA.

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I think that Ajinca was a fallback pick. The team probably had another name targeted for that pick but the player(s) they wanted didn't fall as far as they expected ... so they took the next big man on their list instead of the BPA.

There are indications for the exact opposite. Otherwise we fans here would be much more sceptical about him.

[Paydro70]

Yeah, pretty much the only thing he has going for him at this point is Larry Brown's public comments about him. I don't buy him as a fallback at all, the impression I have is that we got #20 specifically for him. I don't think Larry Brown has shown himself to be a particularly genius drafter, but he is a coach, who presumably can recognize talent to some degree.

I certainly hope Alexis has more in store, though we won't know for a while thanks to the knee.