Trades using the TPE

[richboy]

If one team has a trade exception and they use that exception in a trade for another player does the new team now get the exception.

Plus are TPE always generated when a team trades a player without getting equal salary in return.

[bgwizarfan]

in a general sense, the answer to your question is usually yes, but the way to look at any trade is to take both sides seperately.

Exceptions aren't traded for one another and that's the most common misconception. So in this Nets/Magic Dooling trade, both teams are over the Salary Cap, which means both teams are using some sort of Exception to make the trade (unlike the Camby trade in which the Clippers had cap room). The Nets are using a previously existing TPE to trade for Dooling (while sending nothing back in return since they have the TPE). From the Magic side, they're signing and trading Dooling for nothing in return (perhaps a pick or something will be a part of the deal as well), and since they are over the cap, a TPE is generated.

Usually in trades in which a single player is traded and absorbed by a TPE, what you say is correct. But especially in multi-player trades where teams are configuring the deal in different ways, the logic of a team automatically getting a TPE when another team uses one breaks down. So the best way to look at it is from both sides seperately

Also, I find it funny that some papers are reporting that Doolings contract is only a 2 year deal since the Nets are mindful of the Summer of 2010...considering it's a Sign-and-Trade, we know it has to be 3 years, though perhaps the last year is not fully guaranteed

[Modern_epic]

in a general sense, the answer to your question is usually yes, but the way to look at any trade is to take both sides seperately.

Exceptions aren't traded for one another and that's the most common misconception. So in this Nets/Magic Dooling trade, both teams are over the Salary Cap, which means both teams are using some sort of Exception to make the trade (unlike the Camby trade in which the Clippers had cap room). The Nets are using a previously existing TPE to trade for Dooling (while sending nothing back in return since they have the TPE). From the Magic side, they're signing and trading Dooling for nothing in return (perhaps a pick or something will be a part of the deal as well), and since they are over the cap, a TPE is generated.

Usually in trades in which a single player is traded and absorbed by a TPE, what you say is correct. But especially in multi-player trades where teams are configuring the deal in different ways, the logic of a team automatically getting a TPE when another team uses one breaks down. So the best way to look at it is from both sides seperately

Also, I find it funny that some papers are reporting that Doolings contract is only a 2 year deal since the Nets are mindful of the Summer of 2010...considering it's a Sign-and-Trade, we know it has to be 3 years, though perhaps the last year is not fully guaranteed

To clarify: something must be going both ways in a trade. If you don't hear anything, then what is going the other way is probably the rights to some dude drafted in the second round 6 years ago who is playing in Europe and will never make the league. But something has to go.

[FGump]

To clarify: something must be going both ways in a trade. If you don't hear anything, then what is going the other way is probably the rights to some dude drafted in the second round 6 years ago who is playing in Europe and will never make the league. But something has to go.

Or it could be the "right to swap 2nd rounders in a season in the future, if the picks are within 5 slots of each other" ..or the vague "cash considerations" which is always assumed to be $3M by fans, but which could be no more than $1. It doesn't have to be any real value whatsoever.

[Modern_epic]

I knew the incredibly conditional second rounder was a possibility, but I didn't know cash counted. Interesting to know.

[Raptor_GT]

Well, since there's already thread, I'm going to ask my question here : what's the point for the Magic to accept this trade, since they don't get anything useful in return?

And in the case of the Camby deal, Denver got a 10 million $ trade exception. Let's say they want to acquire a player next year from a team B, who's got a 10 millions $ salary. What's the point for this team to accept the trade exception? What I wonder is who would accept a 10 million $ trade exception in a trade? Is it only for teams who are way over the luxury thresold and want to get rid of a player (Knicks and Randolph for example)?

[Three34]

They get a trade exception in return, which IS something useful. If at some point in the next calendar year they want/need to acquire someone who earns more than the minimum, the trade exception can help with that,

And you don't accept trade exceptions in trade. They are used and created, but never moved.

What's the point for this team to accept the trade exception?

To dump some salary without having to take any back. Owners love that s**t.

[Dunkenstein]

what's the point for the Magic to accept this trade, since they don't get anything useful in return?

Besides the TPE, it's reported that the Magic also got "cash considerations" from the Nets. Cash is always useful.