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Barnes to Suns 

Post#1 » by from_ro_to_dirk » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:24 am

Matt Barnes to Suns for one year and the minimum. :banghead: Couldn't we have done this? He'd automatically be the starter at SG. We're **** working out Darius Miles and hanging on the Eddie Jones and trying to sign George and we could have had Barnes for nothing. That makes me sick.
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Post#2 » by conair1306 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:36 am

I was thinking the same thing. The got him for the min. And we gave Diop the full MLE.
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Post#3 » by JES12 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:38 am

Barnes ~ Stack

I would not assume Barnes would automatically be starting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barnes is not that much improvement over anyone...any team. In fact, if Barnes getting playing time means Barbosa, Bell or Hill are not playing, then I thisnk that was a good move for the Mavs to let them sign him.
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Post#4 » by NBA Junkie » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:43 am

from_ro_to_dirk wrote:Matt Barnes to Suns for one year and the minimum. :banghead: Couldn't we have done this? He'd automatically be the starter at SG. We're **** working out Darius Miles and hanging on the Eddie Jones and trying to sign George and we could have had Barnes for nothing. That makes me sick.


Barnes is a sf and too slow to play the sg spot. I'm sure Barnes had multiple offers at the minimum. Maybe Matt thought the Suns would be the best fit for him and offer the most playing time. It's not always about the pay. Barnes would have been a nice bench player here, but I doubt he'd get the playing time he would want behind Howard.
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Post#5 » by from_ro_to_dirk » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:45 am

Yah but maybe they are gearing up for a trade of Barbosa/filler for Artest. I think Barnes would have helped out here. He can run the break, play a little D, be a pest, play with the fire that most of our guys seem to lack for whatever reason.

Who else is out there that could be had for the minimum? I can't remember anymore? Maybe JR Smith? I'll take him. Might as well start him. I'd hoped to get a real starter and get JR to be a scorer off the bench but hell at this point I just want someone who has played meaningful games with some sort of success, however minor.
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Post#6 » by cdub71323 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:10 am

J.R. Smith is a restricted free agent who has a $3 million option to go back to Denver, so even if we gave him a league minimum offer sheet, Denver would just match it more than likely. We could trade for him and it probably wouldn't take much seeing as though the Nuggets seem to not want him back
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Post#7 » by JES12 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:13 am

Man...the new look Warriors

[minus]
Baron Davis ----------> Clippers
Michael Pietrus-----> Magic
Matt Barnes----------> Suns
Kelenna Azubuike--> Clippers (Warriors have til the 24th to match)

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Corey Maggette
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Post#8 » by HMFFL » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:45 am

Barnes coming off the bench chucking up 3 point doesn't exactly go over well with me. While I like Barnes, let's not making him into someone that puts a team over the top, and Gerald Green will be much more useful under our system.

Where use to defending players like Barnes, so he plays into the game plan when we take on Phoenix, and I'm assuming he's going to be near the end of their bench anyway.
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Post#9 » by from_ro_to_dirk » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:15 am

ah, forgot JR was restricted. whatever happened to Ricky Davis? i really wouldnt mind having him. i think Dirk, Kidd, Carlisle can handle him. the guy CAN play some. if he's on the cheap, why not for a year? or send them EJ and $ 3 for S&T for a year or 2 if we have to.
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Re: Barnes to Suns 

Post#10 » by HMFFL » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:47 am

Like Josh Childress, Ricky Davis has been offered a contract that would pay him roughly 7 million per year to play overseas.
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Post#11 » by conair1306 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:24 am

A little unsettling how many "quality" players are bolting for Europe. Most of them have been Europeans, but if Childress leaves, than that's another story, one the NBA should be concerned with.
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Post#12 » by JES12 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:52 am

conair1306 wrote:A little unsettling how many "quality" players are bolting for Europe. Most of them have been Europeans, but if Childress leaves, than that's another story, one the NBA should be concerned with.

Well, add Nachbar to the list.

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Post#13 » by arkuo » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:32 am

Stern should do something about the war for talents while its early... the NBA is lucky that europe aint so much of a basketball-crazy continent... if it is, the NBA would end up like japanese baseball clubs losing baseball stars to the MLB....
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Post#14 » by JES12 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:53 am

Forgot to mention Carlos Delfino signed with Khimky in Russia.

The probem is the lux tax and entire tax structure of the NBA. Teams that want money like Atlanta is not looking to resign Childress so they can get money from NY and Dallas. Teams like Dallas that can use Childress and pay him that 7 mil cannot because of the fact we are restricted to just the MLE (and only 1 MLE to use per year).

Players like Delfino, Davis, Nachbar and Childress are simply getting better contract offers overseas.
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Re: Barnes to Suns 

Post#15 » by Deus » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:45 pm

I trust Donnie's judgement. He probably thinks Barnes is too big to start at the 2. If you look at Barnes' vitals, it says he is 6'7" just like Josh. So he's more of a small foward. Not a shooting guard.

He's also turning into a journeyman. He's been on 6 teams now over a span of 7 years. Somethings up with those numbers.

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