Did Boston Celtics Get Weaker

[bruno sundov]

That is nonsense. First off I would like to make this point. The thread was started by a laker fan who is still crying behind his,insert name of designer sunglasses, beacuse the celts handed the fakers their ass this summer.

James Posey play excellent D and could nail the three. TA can play excellent D and go to the basket. We are missing another sharpshooting 3 pointer off the bench. That is all we are missing right now. Oh wait, we just resigned eddie house nevermind.

I would say we are in the same positon if not better than last year. Thanks for coming by laker fans. Now go back to crying about your 39 point ass kicking in game 6.LOL.

Well we didnt get Posey till late August, but if you are saying that if we went into the season right now with this roster we'd be better off then that is ludicrous.

You use having Eddie House and Tony Allen as your evidence on why we are better off? We had them last year....and POSEY.

I'm not saying we can't be just as good, but on paper we have 100% become a weaker team since the season ended, how can anyone argue that?

...granted it doesnt really matter how we look on paper, but thats the topic and yes we look like a weaker team right now then we did at the end of the year....fact.

-Dizzy

No. We are better off because all of our young players now have championship experience. They have an incredible amount of confidence now. Rondos jumper is only going to get better. Same with TA's D. What is so hard to understand about that. Don't make Posey out to be an all star either. The guy was a good role player. Not even the best role player on the team I might add. In front of him Perkins. Just because he starts doesn't mean he's not a role player.

[PPAW4Life]

On paper the C's definitely got weaker.

The 3 guys who I didn't want to see go were House, Posey, and PJ Brown. Without Brown and House we do not even get to the NBA Finals.

Without Posey we don't win the NBA Finals.

C's fans are better than this....I know it. They're smart enough to know that a player can do so much without it being recorded in the stats sheet/box score.

Losing Posey is much more than any ppg or rpg stat. Who out there can do the things on offense and defense that he does? The only one who I think can do it is Battier but he's not coming here and he wouldn't be as good guarding 4's as Posey.

And to those who keep pining that it's too early and how we got Posey and House on Aug. this and that last year who the hell cares! Last off season these guys were still AVAILABLE. The C's pool of FA's are dwindling by the second! There ARE NO Posey's left out there to get in August!!! You have NBA players signing in RUSSIA for god's sakes.

I'm really happy we got House back as well as TA but TA + House < Posey + 4 years MLE.

TA @ 2.5 mill + House @ 2.7/2.9 mill. <<<<<< Posey @ 5 years full MLE.

Right now we are banking on Big Baby and Powe to guard the multi-dimensional 4's who can handle the ball, shoot the 3, and post up to keep KG out of foul trouble. It's gonna be real tough, I hope they're up to the challenge.

[GreenGrizz]

We traded for Powe who got drafted by Denver in the second round. At first, I never understood the move. We just got Bill Walker in a similar situation. I am not going to discuss wheter we get weaker or not. The big name free agents don't always make teams better. Some drafts make teams better. They are all same humans. Ainge sits in a dark room and study video tapes as many as he can. How can we criticize him before the season has started? If he is saving a place for Lebron in 2010, why do we have to complain about those 13th, 14th and 15th players? Miami did get weaker when Posey was there.

[GuyClinch]

I think PJ Brown helped a ton in the playoffs - and if he does not unretire again - well we might be hurting at the backup center spot. I was hoping for someone better then POB. But maybe the guy will work out.

I still think the C's need more size up front - even if its just big guys who can throw their weight around like Cleveland has..

Pete

[CelticFaninLBC]

Losing Posey hurts, but gotta factor in that Rondo, Perkins and TA will be improved. Pierce and KG should maintain their level of play... May see some drop off from Ray Allen.. As for Brown, he made some nice playoff contributions, but doesn't have much left in his tank..

I can still see Ainge adding George and Marbury. George isn't Posey, but he's a physical sf, who can hit the 3... Marbury would be a huge improvement over last years pg's..

[ryaningf]

After listening to Ainge on WEEI, it's pretty clear our top 9 is set (Rondo/Ray/Paul/KG/Perk/Powe/TA/House/Baby). He said that if the playoffs were tomorrow, he'd want a little more help at the center spot, but that might change after a season of development and experience. So, ergo, we might add a center at some point, but there aren't going to be any more PGs or swingmen. We go to war with what we have. I'll take my chances with Tony at 3 all day long. And Posey at the 4 was a bad lineup anyway. KG, Powe, Baby can handle any 4 that comes their way.

[PPAW4Life]

After listening to Ainge on WEEI, it's pretty clear our top 9 is set (Rondo/Ray/Paul/KG/Perk/Powe/TA/House/Baby). He said that if the playoffs were tomorrow, he'd want a little more help at the center spot, but that might change after a season of development and experience. So, ergo, we might add a center at some point, but there aren't going to be any more PGs or swingmen. We go to war with what we have. I'll take my chances with Tony at 3 all day long. And Posey at the 4 was a bad lineup anyway. KG, Powe, Baby can handle any 4 that comes their way.

Posey at the 4 and House at the 1 was the lineup that got the C's back from 20 points down in Game 4 in LA.

That was also the lineup that sparked our run in Game 6 blowout.

It's not a starting lineup no doubt but it has its uses and many teams have that versatility at their disposal.

The C's used to have it but no more.

[ParticleMan]

The Posey-at-PF lineup worked on occasion, but overall it was a disaster. Check out Posey's PER at PF vs. SF. The only reason Doc used it is because he didn't have any other options while Powe and Baby were sucking. I expect that won't be a problem next season.

[Celtic Esquire]

The Posey-at-PF lineup worked on occasion, but overall it was a disaster. Check out Posey's PER at PF vs. SF. The only reason Doc used it is because he didn't have any other options while Powe and Baby were sucking. I expect that won't be a problem next season.

My only concern for the second unit with Baby or Powe at the 4 is that we keep shooters on the floor to open up space for them to work. I remember a few games last season when Doc would have only one shooter on the floor (Ray or House) and our offense would grind to a halt as opponents packed the lanes.

[ryaningf]

After listening to Ainge on WEEI, it's pretty clear our top 9 is set (Rondo/Ray/Paul/KG/Perk/Powe/TA/House/Baby). He said that if the playoffs were tomorrow, he'd want a little more help at the center spot, but that might change after a season of development and experience. So, ergo, we might add a center at some point, but there aren't going to be any more PGs or swingmen. We go to war with what we have. I'll take my chances with Tony at 3 all day long. And Posey at the 4 was a bad lineup anyway. KG, Powe, Baby can handle any 4 that comes their way.

Posey at the 4 and House at the 1 was the lineup that got the C's back from 20 points down in Game 4 in LA.

That was also the lineup that sparked our run in Game 6 blowout.

It's not a starting lineup no doubt but it has its uses and many teams have that versatility at their disposal.

The C's used to have it but no more.

Actually, we still have it. A Rondo/TA/Giddens/Pierce/KG lineup is pretty fearsome, if you wanna go small ball on their ass.

[bruno sundov]

Someone from this board go to the laker baord, preferably a mod and ask the same question. Let's see what happens. You would be suspended and called every name in the book. I can't go over there I have 2 suspensions on that board already.

[shobe_81]

Well it depends on what actions brought you the 2 suspensions!

I didn't come in here and say the Celtics suck because they lost 2 players, all I did was ask for your opinion (since you're the Celtics fans) on the Celtics roster lately. I wasn't criticizing so don't get angry over this thread.

[greenbeans]

Shobe, Tell me how the ring tastes???

[bruno sundov]

Well it depends on what actions brought you the 2 suspensions!

I didn't come in here and say the Celtics suck because they lost 2 players, all I did was ask for your opinion (since you're the Celtics fans) on the Celtics roster lately. I wasn't criticizing so don't get angry over this thread.

One ACTIOn was for saying that Ray Allen was 80% of Kobe. But that deserved a suspension.

So you wanted to know if the celtics have gotten weaker. Even if we did, does that mean we would only beat you by 20 in the deciding championship game?