Childress receives 3 year 20 million

[wadero]

Childress a restricted free agent with the Hawk is offer 3 years 20 million to play overseas. That is roughly 6.6 million per season? I foresee a lot of players doing this. Are NBA teams not offering enough to keep players here in the states?

[jove9]

It's the conversion rate and the lux tax that hamper NBA teams.

Teams don't want to overspend, and the dollar is incredibly weak against many foreign currencies (the Euro, for example).

[MaxRider]

the best will always receive the money
problem is that an average NBA players can become the best in Europe
now it's must better to earn EUR than USD
Mike Harris is only a scrub in NBA but he's LeBron James is China
too bad China doesn't give big salary like Europe

[MaxRider]

It's the conversion rate and the lux tax that hamper NBA teams.

Teams don't want to overspend, and the dollar is incredibly weak against many foreign currencies (the Euro, for example).

of course team don't want to overspend
it's business afterall
no one want to lose money

[moofs]

Jove, your new avatar looks like Soda Popinski if he was wearing some sort of misshapen coconut brassiere. When did he go tropical?

[stillmatic73088]

It's the conversion rate and the lux tax that hamper NBA teams.

Teams don't want to overspend, and the dollar is incredibly weak against many foreign currencies (the Euro, for example).

Exactly. On top of that like others said in europe childress would be a star so of course they will offer him more money. Either way I think it's comical that all these high school kids are considering going to europe instead of college after stern made that idiotic rule. Baseball has a good amount of high school players drafted every year but when the young black kids decide to skip college it's a problem. Anything to protect the image of your league right stern

[Amel]

Childress a restricted free agent with the Hawk is offer 3 years 20 million to play overseas. That is roughly 6.6 million per season? I foresee a lot of players doing this. Are NBA teams not offering enough to keep players here in the states?

dont think nba teams are offering less,

european teams are just offering more, because the leagues in europe are making more and more money each year,

nowdays they can afford nba players easily, even 20 mil a year

[tha_rock220]

Why does it have to be a race thing??? The simple fact is that those high school kids weren't playing. Baseball has had a farm system in place for decades to develop prep to pro players. In baseball the minor leagues and college do essentially the same thing. Pro basketball has never really anything like that, and please don't say the NBDL does the same thing.

[moofs]

Whether they're making more or not, and whetever their cap situation is if they have one, they seem to be able to offer pretty comparable deals. 20 mil USD is only about 12.66m in Euros. That's only 4.22m per year.

I'm assuming the 20 million offer was translated to dollars, since no base currency was listed and that's kindof an important number to have in international transactions, especially since 1 Euro = 1.58 USD right now.

Maybe it's because I have a very poor grasp of macroeconomics, but it seems like we have a tendency in this country of funneling money into foreign markets to "build up consumers" only to have those markets grow beyond our capacities, have foreign businessmen take up root in them, then eventually evolve past us and gradually overtake our production while we try to maintain the status quo and/or stock prices. That's probably completely wrong, but it's my general perception of the whole thing.

[wadero]

I think it is smart for High schoolers to go overseas and play. They learn to hit jumpers and how to play fundmentals before they come here. I think the Stern Rule is a joke if a NBA team drafts a highschooler and he doesnt work out the only looser is the team that Drafts him. Making them wait a year is only plus for the NCAA. Who wont play the players yet they take in Millions and Millions of Dollars in TV money Jersey sales, and Tickets. Then when a pLayer like say Joey Porter needs to come up with $ or his mom get evicted he gets booted out. I say let the Kids play either here or Overseas or in the DLeague but dont make them goto College to Help out the NCAA. Think about the Title Game most of the kids in that game would have drafted to the NBA last year, So just imagine who would have been in the title game?

[Iggyemu]

Only scrubs will go to play overseas. When Dwyane Wade's contract is up on 2010 I am pretty sure he won't be going to play overseas regardless of how much money they offer him.

[stillmatic73088]

Why does it have to be a race thing??? The simple fact is that those high school kids weren't playing. Baseball has had a farm system in place for decades to develop prep to pro players. In baseball the minor leagues and college do essentially the same thing. Pro basketball has never really anything like that, and please don't say the NBDL does the same thing.

It has to be a race thing because david stern has been working on the "black image" the league has for the last couple of years. It started when he told them how to dress because he was sick of seeing allen iverson on the bench with a big jersey and jeans on. He's continued to try to push the international stars the league has because he knows that people in the stands and the people funding his league aren't the same color as the players on the court. In addition, when is the last time you heard ANYONE even bring up the argument that baseball has a lot of players make the jump.............. never. You have idiots like jason whitlock(who is black) speaking on how much people like this nba finals and how much better it was to not see a court filled with thugs with tats. I'm not trying to make this a race issue because thats not the topic but it's painfully obvious what stern's motives are.

[jove9]

Jove, your new avatar looks like Soda Popinski if he was wearing some sort of misshapen coconut brassiere. When did he go tropical?

Hey, good eye. It IS Soda Popinski. His "coconut brassiere" is actually his set of poorly colored boxing gloves.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2047/221 ... 9bba_o.jpg

** Of course, I can't paste the image for some reason. It's again telling me that it can't determine the dumb dimensions.

[jove9]

Why does it have to be a race thing??? The simple fact is that those high school kids weren't playing. Baseball has had a farm system in place for decades to develop prep to pro players. In baseball the minor leagues and college do essentially the same thing. Pro basketball has never really anything like that, and please don't say the NBDL does the same thing.

It has to be a race thing because david stern has been working on the "black image" the league has for the last couple of years. It started when he told them how to dress because he was sick of seeing allen iverson on the bench with a big jersey and jeans on. He's continued to try to push the international stars the league has because he knows that people in the stands and the people funding his league aren't the same color as the players on the court. In addition, when is the last time you heard ANYONE even bring up the argument that baseball has a lot of players make the jump.............. never. You have idiots like jason whitlock(who is black) speaking on how much people like this nba finals and how much better it was to not see a court filled with thugs with tats. I'm not trying to make this a race issue because thats not the topic but it's painfully obvious what stern's motives are.

I can't presume to know what Stern's motives were, but I think the argument he made about wanting young players to get more experience before they enter the league is a legit one. Remember the 2001 draft, when most of the top picks were high school kids and they all turned out to be different forms of trash? It all started with #1 pick Kwame Brown.

It's better for the game to have players who are more fundamentally sound than to have a bunch of young, spoiled teenagers who are just learning how to play. There's no telling whether young guys with little skills will ever pan out, and taking a chance on them ties a team's future to a pretty big variable. I'm sure Leon Smith (and guys who never even got drafted after signing an agent) played a role in Stern's decision, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Smith

Oh, and I shouldn't have to point out that the age rule applies to ALL players, not just the black ones. Let's not make this into a race issue.

[stillmatic73088]

Why does it have to be a race thing??? The simple fact is that those high school kids weren't playing. Baseball has had a farm system in place for decades to develop prep to pro players. In baseball the minor leagues and college do essentially the same thing. Pro basketball has never really anything like that, and please don't say the NBDL does the same thing.

It has to be a race thing because david stern has been working on the "black image" the league has for the last couple of years. It started when he told them how to dress because he was sick of seeing allen iverson on the bench with a big jersey and jeans on. He's continued to try to push the international stars the league has because he knows that people in the stands and the people funding his league aren't the same color as the players on the court. In addition, when is the last time you heard ANYONE even bring up the argument that baseball has a lot of players make the jump.............. never. You have idiots like jason whitlock(who is black) speaking on how much people like this nba finals and how much better it was to not see a court filled with thugs with tats. I'm not trying to make this a race issue because thats not the topic but it's painfully obvious what stern's motives are.

I can't presume to know what Stern's motives were, but I think the argument he made about wanting young players to get more experience before they enter the league is a legit one. Remember the 2001 draft, when most of the top picks were high school kids and they all turned out to be different forms of trash? It all started with #1 pick Kwame Brown.

It's better for the game to have players who are more fundamentally sound than to have a bunch of young, spoiled teenagers who are just learning how to play. There's no telling whether young guys with little skills will ever pan out, and taking a chance on them ties a team's future to a pretty big variable. I'm sure Leon Smith (and guys who never even got drafted after signing an agent) played a role in Stern's decision, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Smith

Oh, and I shouldn't have to point out that the age rule applies to ALL players, not just the black ones. Let's not make this into a race issue.

If all of the reasons stated above(which are all correct) were what I thought Sterns reasons were then I would have no problem, but I don't think they are. Yes I remember the 01' draft, I think the 04' draft might speak more to the relevance of waiting a year. Anyway like I said, I don't think the year wait is such a bad thing, what I do think is bad is all of the bs moves I've seen stern make to make the league less "hip-hop" as they like to call it.

[tisbee]

I think his agents have cleverly found the loophole for restricted FAs. To keep his rights the Hawks had to offer him the 1 yr qualifying contract. But,that counts against a team's cap even if he doesn't sign-doesn't it? And if he stays for two yrs in Europe,the qualifying offer would count towards cap and Lux Tax. those 2 yrs. If so,a team close to Lux Tax that extended a Qualifying offer to a player who then left for Europe could end up paying Lux Tax on a theoretical salary for a player who they don't have signed! Faced w/that teams might start renouncing their Restricted FAs,turning the players into unrestricted FAs.

[tha_rock220]

I don't understand how your displeasure with David Stern's previous decisions equates the age restriction to racism. I'm no fan of Stern and the things he's done over the past few years, but he got this one right. The NBA was having too many young players who either couldn't play and/or didn't play, and it wasn't good for the future. The NBA doesn't care if the players go overseas. All it cares about is them going somewhere they can spend some time on the floor.

As for the dress code, well it's the right of employers all over the country to institute dress codes. I don't really care about it either way, but to say it's racist just smacks of ignorance. My boss makes me wear a shirt and tie to work every day because he wants me to maintain the white man white collar stereotype.

[wadero]

So let me get this straight one year makes you a better player? If that is the case do what MLB does sign the kid send him to the D league and groom him for a future in the NBA. The only reason he wanted to make the 1 year rule is the owners couldnt stop themselves from draft High schoolers and then they dont pan out. This is the owners problem not the kids coming out wanting a career instead of going to college.

[moofs]

Hey, good eye. It IS Soda Popinski. His "coconut brassiere" is actually his set of poorly colored boxing gloves.

I can top that one, it's the second time you've had him as your avatar, the last one being animated or something with a low pixel green bottle.

I am winner at remembering any things that don't matter.

Stillmatic, while I think you're mostly right, I don't see trying to change a corporate culture as an attack on race. If you worked at a media company and everyone in the marketing and sales departments came to work wearing cargo shorts, flip flops, no shirts, and straw hats, IN SPITE of having meetings scheduled with customers who were fully known to come in wearing suits and planning to give your company large sums of money, uh, wouldn't you kinda put down a policy to change that as well? If something stupid like dress code doesn't fly with your customers, you enforce a change. It's really not a big deal.

The high school draftees thing was a problem too, but I don't think the solution was the right one (better development league, which should also be called "minor league" for marketing purposes). It's hard to deny that rule does protect the players somewhat as well as the league. A lot of players in the NBA did come from poor backgrounds (or at least that's what's always printed, I don't claim to know the stats). Once enabled with large sums of money, if you don't know how to handle it you can easily put yourself into a worse situation than you had before you fell into the windfall. Maturity helps in that. Staying in college or d-league or whatever won't necessarily provide the maturity, but it will provide more time to make proper maturity levels more likely to have been attained, as well as more access to people who have attained it.

Man, I can't say it enough, this european contract thing has the potential to get really bad, really fast. .. As really bad as you can get with something entertainment related anyway (unless that ends up boiling over into economic as well).

[jove9]

Nachbar just took Russia's offer and decided to bolt overseas. Will Childress follow the example, I wonder?