Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed?

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Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#1 » by magicfan4life05 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:24 pm

Bold players have re-signed
Players not listed mean no longer in league/not good player/fringe role player

1. Dwight Howard-signed extension last year
2. Emeka Okafor-reportedly wants a sign/trade, doesnt want to return
3. Ben Gordon-rejected offer last year, still trying to re-sign
5. Devin Harris-signed extension last year
6. Josh Childress-reportedly might sign overseas instead?
7. Luol Deng-reportedly gave the bulls an ultimatum before he ends negotiations?
9. Andre Iguodala-still waiting for a new deal
11. Andris Biedrins- still waiting for a new deal
12. Seattle/OKC-Robert Swift-most likely will take QO
13. Portland-Sebastian Telfair- with T-wolves, waiting for new contract (edit-just re-signed, off the wiretap)
14. Kris Humphries- resigned with Toronto
15. Al Jefferson-signed extension last year
16. Kirk Snyder- waiting for a new deal with T-wolves
17. Josh Smith-still waiting for a new deal
18. J.R. Smith- still waiting for a new deal
19. Dorrell Wright-after an injured season, i think he'll take the QO
20. Jameer Nelson-signed extension last year
24. Delonte West- still waiting for new deal
25. Tony Allen-just resigned with Celtics
26. Kevin Martin-signed extension last year
27. LA Lakers- Sasha Vujacic-still waiting for a new deal
28. Spurs- Ben Udrih-waived by the spurs, signed with Kings, resigned for MLE





So what's up with these draft picks, I've never seen so much difficulty with having their own FA re-signed, especially Okafor, whens the last time a #2 pick did not re-sign who was not a bust?

Who do you think gets a deal this offseason, and who takes the QO and becomes an UNrestricted FA next summer, who gets traded?
Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

"I just think everybody needs to stop talking about it," Howard said. "There's more to life than free throws."
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#2 » by asdfgh » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:37 pm

Humphries has signed a multiyear contract with Toronto. He's a quality player which is why Toronto wanted to keep him but he's been buried behind Bosh, Bargnani etc. Snyder was starting for Minnesota last year and they want to re-sign him but for less money than the QO (which is what they did with Telfair too). Swift has a qualifying offer and will more than likely stay with the new OKC team.

Most of the other players are RFA.
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Post#3 » by magicfan4life05 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:39 pm

^ thanks i will update the op
Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

"I just think everybody needs to stop talking about it," Howard said. "There's more to life than free throws."
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#4 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:41 pm

TA was signed with the usually bird rights and pay raises. Didn't touch MLE. He still got overpaid. Somewhere along the lines of 4.5 mil over 2 years guaranteed. Should be playing on a one year contract till proven otherwise.
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#5 » by Raptorian » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:13 pm

The reason is that the class if full of a bunch of players that are second tier players who believe they should be payed like stars. The stars in the class have been taken care of (Howard, Jefferson, Martin), and smartly signed extensions last year.

Okafor, Deng, Iggy, etc all turned down good contracts to try to get a big contract this year (but hurt themselves with mediocre play last year).
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#6 » by sonny » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:34 pm

Raptorian wrote:The reason is that the class if full of a bunch of players that are second tier players who believe they should be payed like stars. The stars in the class have been taken care of (Howard, Jefferson, Martin), and smartly signed extensions last year.

Okafor, Deng, Iggy, etc all turned down good contracts to try to get a big contract this year (but hurt themselves with mediocre play last year).


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Post#7 » by pspot » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:01 pm

the year following the 03 draft so everything is inflated in the eyes of the players
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#8 » by chrbal » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:10 pm

Simply put, Memphis or stay. Oh but Memphis doesn't want to sign any big name free agents.

Plus you have teams preparing for next year, not willing to go nuts on free agents this year.

I'm a little suprised that Philly hasn't resigned Andre though. Other then a poor playoff performance, hes been pretty good.

All of these guys will end up signing. Kirk Snyder and Robert Swift are really the only two who might better off following the gravy train overseas. But the problem is that I think a lot of those guys will be taking the qualifying offer. Adding to next years free agent pool.

I never get the fascination with Robert Swift. Hes an injury prone, inexperienced Center. Hes played 3 out of 4 seasons and 71 out of 328 games.
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#9 » by CBS7 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:29 pm

They just aren't as good as they think they are.

Deng declined a generous 5/57.5 or 11.5 million/year deal last year. Then he goes and has a significantly worse year as the team is worse off. No **** the Bulls aren't going to give you the 5/70 14 million/year deal you want. Maybe if you had a 20/8 allstar calliber year, sure, but you were worse. Common sense Luol.

Kevin Martin got a 5/55 deal, and he's better on both sides of the ball than you, Ben Gordon. Yet what do you want? I'm not actually sure, but I think I recall he wanted a similar 14 million/year deal.

Okafor declined a 5/65 deal last year and is likely to bolt. Thats 13 million/year for a guy who has had significant injury problems and has pretty much put up just about the same numbers since he was a rookie. What do you want Okafor? The max?
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#10 » by TruGM » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:14 pm

How can you leave out the best pick in that draft?
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Re: Why is C/O '04 Having Such a Hard Time Getting Signed? 

Post#12 » by Malinhion » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:32 pm

Because they think they are the class of '03.

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