Khimki Signs Garbajosa $8 MIllion US Per Season

[Sedale Threatt]

Yay. How long's it going to take for this guy to grasp that nobody really gives a crap about European basketball?

Yay. How long's it going to take for this guy to grasp that nobody really gives a crap about European basketball?

Yay. How long's it going to take for this guy to grasp that nobody really gives a crap about European basketball?

buarahaha. casually dismissing an entire continent here. WELL DONE, some xenophobia there that hitler would be proud of.

surely americans can't really not understand why they are universally hated when you see things like this?

Frankly, having lived in England for three years, being hated by strangers doesn't bother me in the slightest. I put most of it down to simple, petty jealousy. And if said hatred is coming from someone stupid enough to liken the systematic slaughter of millions of innocent Jews to not giving a crap about European basketball -- that's a hell of a comparison, son -- I could care even less. Hate away.

[CircleCitysportsfan]

Yay. How long's it going to take for this guy to grasp that nobody really gives a crap about European basketball?

Yay. How long's it going to take for this guy to grasp that nobody really gives a crap about European basketball?

Yay. How long's it going to take for this guy to grasp that nobody really gives a crap about European basketball?

buarahaha. casually dismissing an entire continent here. WELL DONE, some xenophobia there that hitler would be proud of.

surely americans can't really not understand why they are universally hated when you see things like this?

What are you talking about? The guy said he does not like European basketball. He's not starting wars based on staged events, to get a country to believe every thing he says. He's not using human skin for lamp shades. That comparison is uncalled for. Nobody has to like European basketball, that does not make them a xenophobe by any means. You people get on my damn nerves. I don't follow MLB baseball, does that mean I dislike America? No, i just think baseball sucks ass. Same with NHL Hockey. I don't dislike Canada or Canadians or Russians. I can't believe you people take it so personal that we don't follow your league as much as you want us too. Get over it!

[Sedale Threatt]

And besides, how in the hell is it xenophobic, which means have an unreasonable hatred of foreigners or that which is unknown, to dismiss European basketball?

Strike 1 -- I have absolutely no problem with Europe or Europeans. I lived there and traveled somewhat extensively. I sincerely enjoyed my experiences. I'd love to go back.

Strike 2 -- I've watched European basketball. I think it sucks. Surely that's not a crime against humanity. I think baseball sucks too, and that's considered the American past time.

[Sedale Threatt]

What are you talking about? The guy said he does not like European basketball. He's not starting wars based on staged events, to get a country to believe every thing he says. He's not using human skin for lamp shades. That comparison is uncalled for. Nobody has to like European basketball, that does not make them a xenophobe by any means. You people get on my damn nerves. I don't follow MLB baseball, does that mean I dislike America? No, i just think baseball sucks ass. Same with NHL Hockey. I don't dislike Canada or Canadians or Russians. I can't believe you people take it so personal that we don't follow your league as much as you want us too. Get over it!

Right on. Especially that part. It reminds me of this guy I work with who flips out every time I tell him I don't care about college football. He acts like I've insulted his wife or something. People tell me they hate the NBA -- and a lot do -- and it's water off my back. If it gives me pleasure, why would I care what anyone else thinks?

I'd be a LOT more tolerant of some of these threads if a handful of these zealots, like this guy, weren't so obnoxious about it.

"We don't care about European basketball, sorry. Get out of our face."

"Stupid, ignorant Americans!!!! Now you know why everyone despises you!!!! Your league will be dead in two years!!!!"

Frankly, it's kind of amusing to see what they're going to dig out of their bag of tricks next.

[CircleCitysportsfan]

What are you talking about? The guy said he does not like European basketball. He's not starting wars based on staged events, to get a country to believe every thing he says. He's not using human skin for lamp shades. That comparison is uncalled for. Nobody has to like European basketball, that does not make them a xenophobe by any means. You people get on my damn nerves. I don't follow MLB baseball, does that mean I dislike America? No, i just think baseball sucks ass. Same with NHL Hockey. I don't dislike Canada or Canadians or Russians. I can't believe you people take it so personal that we don't follow your league as much as you want us too. Get over it!

Right on. Especially that part. It reminds me of this guy I work with who flips out every time I tell him I don't care about college football. He acts like I've insulted his wife or something.

I'd be a LOT more tolerant of some of these threads if a handful of these zealots, like this guy, weren't so obnoxious about it.

"We don't care about European basketball, sorry. Get out of our face."

"Stupid, ignorant Americans!!!! Now you know why everyone despises you!!!!"

Frankly, it's kind of amusing to see what they're going to dig out of their bag of tricks next.

I lived in Lexington, KY for 2 years and went through the same thing with Kentucky Basketball. Did their rants make me like UK bball? No, instead i did cartwheels through the isles at work every time they lost. They could not come back at me with anything since I don't root for any college bball teams... good times...

"Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still"

Remember that Eurofan!!!

[Sedale Threatt]

I'm truly convinced that there are no more psycho fans than die-hard college fans. They're just insane. Absolutely, completely balls-to-the-wall insane. I guess that's one of the beauties of living in the U.S. -- you have so many options as a sports fan. Wait, is that xenophobic of me? Jingoistic?

[cdcastellon1]

its official now http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/balo ... 49589.html

He signed finally 2 years deal, 3 million euros per season NET, thats 10 million dollars 2 seasons without taxes in US

[SabasRevenge!]

its official now http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/balo ... 49589.html

He signed finally 2 years deal, 3 million euros per season NET, thats 10 million dollars 2 seasons without taxes in US

That makes a lot more sense. This reminds me of whoever was insisting that Delfino was making 10m per season.

Why are people offended that NBA fans don't care about Euroleague? Sergei Monia is one of the highest players over there. He was HORRIBLE over here. The talent differential is pretty huge if Delfino becomes a top-5 player over there.

Aside from that, look at the players the NBA got from Europe this year. Fernandez, Gasol, Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, etc. Who cares if Garbajosa (maybe an 8th man) and Delfino (maybe a 10th man) along with Childress (6th man) go to Europe. Every year the top young players come to the NBA. That would be like Rose, Beasley, and Mayo all going to Europe this year... and it happens every year!

I've been a fan of Euroleague and I would like the NBA to work more closely with them. I also loved that clubs over there were reaching for current NBA players. I like how I see that changing basketball and opening up rosters and salaries.

It's really hard for me to be supportive of Euroleague when fans of the league in Europe or otherwise are so damned condescending all the time on this board and others. Some guy was calling NBA fans ignorant in this thread. That's pretty insulting and that attitude is an unfortunate but sometimes true European stereotype. I also see lots of fans over there saying that we really don't know how the game should be played, like the European game is much more advanced, intelligent, and "team-oriented" and we wouldn't understand because we're too selfish or stupid.

Get over yourselves, Euroleage, you're making me hate you. ANY European team would be worse than an expansion NBA team. The difference is that huge.

[Rasho Brezec]

For every stereotypical Euro fan there is a stereotypical NBA fan. So it evens up. Don't pay attention to them and you won't have to hate Euroleague.

[Lakers_4_Life]

its official now http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/balo ... 49589.html

He signed finally 2 years deal, 3 million euros per season NET, thats 10 million dollars 2 seasons without taxes in US

That makes a lot more sense. This reminds me of whoever was insisting that Delfino was making 10m per season.

Why are people offended that NBA fans don't care about Euroleague? Sergei Monia is one of the highest players over there. He was HORRIBLE over here. The talent differential is pretty huge if Delfino becomes a top-5 player over there.

Aside from that, look at the players the NBA got from Europe this year. Fernandez, Gasol, Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, etc. Who cares if Garbajosa (maybe an 8th man) and Delfino (maybe a 10th man) along with Childress (6th man) go to Europe. Every year the top young players come to the NBA. That would be like Rose, Beasley, and Mayo all going to Europe this year... and it happens every year!

I've been a fan of Euroleague and I would like the NBA to work more closely with them. I also loved that clubs over there were reaching for current NBA players. I like how I see that changing basketball and opening up rosters and salaries.

It's really hard for me to be supportive of Euroleague when fans of the league in Europe or otherwise are so damned condescending all the time on this board and others. Some guy was calling NBA fans ignorant in this thread. That's pretty insulting and that attitude is an unfortunate but sometimes true European stereotype. I also see lots of fans over there saying that we really don't know how the game should be played, like the European game is much more advanced, intelligent, and "team-oriented" and we wouldn't understand because we're too selfish or stupid.

Get over yourselves, Euroleage, you're making me hate you. ANY European team would be worse than an expansion NBA team. The difference is that huge.

Delfino and Monia don't play in the Euroleague. Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, are not any way, shape, or form stars from Europe.

[SabasRevenge!]

Delfino and Monia don't play in the Euroleague. Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, are not any way, shape, or form stars from Europe.

Alright, so Delfino and Monia play in Russia. Instead of Euroleague I should have said European Basketball Including Russia. Fixed.

Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, and Gallinari aren't stars because they're mostly teenagers. They were identified by basketball scouts as the best young players outside of the US that could be available in the '08 draft. If they can't hack it in the NBA, they'll return to Europe just like the international stars that couldn't get PT. I think it's worse for a league to lose their top young talent than some fringe role players and a strong bench player.

[Lakers_4_Life]

Delfino and Monia don't play in the Euroleague. Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, are not any way, shape, or form stars from Europe.

Alright, so Delfino and Monia play in Russia. Instead of Euroleague I should have said European Basketball Including Russia. Fixed.

Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, and Gallinari aren't stars because they're mostly teenagers. They were identified by basketball scouts as the best young players outside of the US that could be available in the '08 draft. If they can't hack it in the NBA, they'll return to Europe just like the international stars that couldn't get PT. I think it's worse for a league to lose their top young talent than some fringe role players and a strong bench player.

Skita and Darko are just a couple examples of these so-called "Euro stars" drafted high by the NBA that were never actual stars in Europe. I see you are already setting up Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, and Gallinari to be labeled as "busts" if they don't do jack in the NBA because they were "top young talent" from Europe.

[SabasRevenge!]

Skita and Darko are just a couple examples of these so-called "Euro stars" drafted high by the NBA that were never actual stars in Europe. I see you are already setting up Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, and Gallinari to be labeled as "busts" if they don't do jack in the NBA because they were "top young talent" from Europe.

You're completely missing the point. We're talking about U-20 players here. Prospects. Some pan out and some don't. Some turn into role players, some may be stars.

The top few international prospects get drafted by NBA franchises. A few of them end up like Nowitzki and Parker. They were NEVER "Euro stars" because they were excellent prospects who had the kind of talent NBA franchises spend roster spots on. They never got the chance to be stars in European leagues because they were good enough to play in the NBA.

If any of the four players you mentioned even become contributors in the NBA, they likely would have become a top 10 or 20 player in Europe.

[CircleCitysportsfan]

He changed the thread title again...

[Sedale Threatt]

C'mon, bro, quit being an ignorant, xenophobic American and bow down to the awesome might of the Euroleague.

[Hypz]

The only reason these "scrubs" are getting paid so much is because they need extra incentive leave the biggest basketball market in the world (US), to join a smaller but rising one. Once the European market becomes large enough and the leagues can keep their own best players instead of all of them bolting for US, the money incentive won't be needed anymore and the salaries will be closer to NBA salaries, and the talent will be more evenly distributed.

[Genjuro]

Why are people offended that NBA fans don't care about Euroleague? Sergei Monia is one of the highest players over there. He was HORRIBLE over here.

The talent diferential between the NBA and the Euroleague is huge, just off the charts, but Monia is a mediocre player in Europe.

[UNLVNugsFan]

Delfino and Monia don't play in the Euroleague. Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, are not any way, shape, or form stars from Europe.

Wasn't Gallinari the Euroleague's rising star last year? Beating out a highly regarded Euro in Peckovic?

[Apollo64]

Delfino and Monia don't play in the Euroleague. Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka, Gallinari, are not any way, shape, or form stars from Europe.

Wasn't Gallinari the Euroleague's rising star last year? Beating out a highly regarded Euro in Peckovic?

What's interesting is that Pekovic decided to sign a contract with Panathinaikos instead of trying his luck in the NBA. If this didn't happen, he would probably have been a Top 20 pick. Gallinari is a great prospect and i think he will succeed in the NBA, but wasn't really a star, he played for one of the worst Euroleague teams. Batum, Ajinca, Ibaka are the kind of young players that may interest NBA teams, but not top Euroleague ones, since they are raw projects.

[theTHIEF]

I thought this guy was broken?