New Sekou blog: Smith, Morris

[evildallas]

Detroit has nothing on their roster worth Smith. Nothing. I really can't see how the ASG is being this stupid, just sign Smith. 12 million a year is a GREAT deal for Smith.

I fully agree. Pay the man, it's not an unreasonable salary demand.

While I'm sure they can get some talent back in a S&T I don't think it'll make the team any better because of the defensive presence brought by Josh Smith. Edit-Although the one in my next post would I doubt Detroit would do it.

If they do trade Smith I'm pretty sure will be my last year giving any money to the ASG. I don't see paying $3500 a year to watch a team essentially be a farm club for real franchises. I got caught up in the hype of the playoffs when I should of played wait and see. And I thought the summer of 2006 was bad (Shelden, Speedy, Lo Wright).

As for Morris, I'm curious if he seemed more ready to contribute than Kwame Brown or if it is just a money thing. I can't hate on Morris at the minimum, but maybe if they ink both cheaply they can hedge their bets inside.

[evildallas]

The Hawks must trade J. Smith in case both parts can't reach a long term agreement this off season. You don't want to get nothing in return for him. I'm glad the Hawks are not willing to pay Smith an all-star kind of money though, cause he's good, but far from being at the elite level. Yes, he plays for a .500 team , so let's just be rational for a second. Think about a trade involving our hometown heroe + anyone outside JJ and Horford for C. Billups, Sheed ? What about the Mavs with J. Howard ? I know we'd have to get a big somehow in that deal. I think we got some good options out there. I love what the Pistons could offer us. They're the team you want to trade with due to their "desperate" situation. Get it done Sund !

No interest in Josh Howard because of how his game has started to wane and his position. Does Marvin move to PF? Do we play Zaza or someone else at C and move Marvin to 6th man?

Not loving Sheed either as he's become Mr. Perimeter over the years. Billups, Prince, and Maxiell could be a good thing for Bibby and Smith, but does Detroit offer that much?

[evildallas]

I've got to quit reading this stuff. It's making me ill. The odds that I'll be happy with the S&T are unlikely because we are talking the Hawks. That'd probably accept okay talent and try to spin it to save a few bucks.

To me, the Hawks would have to clearly get the best of the deal talent wise to make me think it is better than just meeting Josh Smith's demands and using him as a cornerstone. If they trade him off then I'm confident we'll be spending the next decade talking about how the team gave up on a perennial all-star over a botched negotiation.

[Harry10]

ATL gets: Carmelo

DEN gets: Prince, Billups

DET gets: Smith, Zaza

............. i'm just guessing..... but i would still rather keep Josh.

[ATL DirtyBird]

Ya I agree with the dude above saying that reading the stuff on thsi site makes me sick!! It does! I dont see why the Hawks wont just pull the trigger! To the dude who says we dont want Smith playing the 3. Why wouldnt we? He draws akward matchups and with Hortford at 4, and maybe we could pick up a big man for center, we could be dominate. All this talk about Carmelo to the Hawks, is that even realistic to think about? I would love to get him cuz hes only gonna get better, hes already one of the best right now and I would love to see him playinog with us. Another thing the talj about Josh Howard to the Hawks, i dont like the sound of that. I just hope the Hawks either keep Smith or S&T him for a big man or maybe a potent scorer!!

[BMF Jet Jaguar]

yeah i wouldnt mind it if we got freaking carmelo anthony

bibby/law
joe/mo evans
melo/marvin
horford/jones
zaza/morris or kwame

[FCNATL85]

The only pb is you have marv sitting on the bench, loosing value, or you have a front line of
melo-marv-al...hum since zaza is gone through that trade...

Melo- Al- Kwame...just don't think that Kwame has starter potential.

Nan, forget about melo.

[ATL DirtyBird]

damn i knew melo was to much to ask, but honestly what the hell are we gonan do?? really give josh smith up for josh howard?? u have to be kidding...and waht the guy said up there about josh smith not being elite...yet...hes right, but to everyone that knows basketball at alll can tell that josh smith is close to being a freak in this league...the potential is through the roof, but are we all sure that he can tap into that potential, cuz there have been plenty of players come into this league with potential and never tap into it, i just dont wanna sign this kid and then him not progress the rest of his career and we also dont wanna be known as the team who traded a future hall of famer (maybe an all star)...sorry for blabbering but im just geting sick of sitting here, i want us to make a move already, sign him or trade him guys!!

[killbuckner]

the problem with a S&T is that the more you pay josh smith, the less he is worth in a trade. Its hard to find a team that is both willing to overpay him and overpay the hawks. So the problem is that the only time a S&T really makes sense is if the Hawks really just aren't willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth and they would rather get something for him this offseason rather than lose him next offseason for nothing. (And if he did take the QO, he would certainly leave for nothing) But that means that its pretty certain that no one here will be happy with what they get for him.

[Harry10]

well if their was such a Melo/Smoove trade.... i would just trade Marvin for Przybilla, Troy Murphy (with Speedy), Brad Miller (with Speedy), or Channing Frye

..... but i would still much rather have Smoove than any player on the market.

[evildallas]

the problem with a S&T is that the more you pay josh smith, the less he is worth in a trade. Its hard to find a team that is both willing to overpay him and overpay the hawks. So the problem is that the only time a S&T really makes sense is if the Hawks really just aren't willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth and they would rather get something for him this offseason rather than lose him next offseason for nothing. (And if he did take the QO, he would certainly leave for nothing) But that means that its pretty certain that no one here will be happy with what they get for him.

Yes, a voice of reason. Everyone can think up dream offers that they would do, but you're right in they aren't likely to happen. The S&T has to include paying him, sending salary back, making it work with BYC rules and including just enough talent that it beats other offers (especially if Josh Smith is demanding a trade). That's a rough combination that most of the dream trades don't fit in.

I hope this rumor is accurate in its wording and they are just considering S&T deals and it will result in them just paying to keep Josh Smith. If very successful teams are willing to pay Josh Smith what he thinks he's worth, the ASG and Sund probably reconsider their evaluations of what Josh is worth.

[Rod700]

My biggest concern as I look across all the threads, and all the possible deals that people are speculating is, how are we going to replace Smoove's defensive presence? Unless we have Kaman, or Okafer coming in, I don't see how we can defend the inside without making an additional move, and I don't think either of those teams fit the description of "power house" or "big dog."

[raleigh]

Yes, a voice of reason. Everyone can think up dream offers that they would do, but you're right in they aren't likely to happen. The S&T has to include paying him, sending salary back, making it work with BYC rules and including just enough talent that it beats other offers (especially if Josh Smith is demanding a trade). That's a rough combination that most of the dream trades don't fit in.

Thank you.