Boone's numbers

RJ 24 · Post #1 » by **RJ 24** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:36 pm

I'm just curious to see what you think Josh's numbers are going to be this year assuming he is the starter. He has grown to be my favorite player and I want to see him succeed. I don't ever think he will be a star, but a very solid starter.

For the 08-09 season i see Josh with

13.5 ppg 10.4 rpg 1.0 bpg

Preludepunk27 · Post #2 » by **Preludepunk27** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:04 pm

Lopez is gonna eat up his time at center eventually. the platoon of Sean with every now and then using Yi/Najera/Anderson at the 4, I don't see Boone playing over 25 minutes a game unless he absolutely separates himself from the rest.

With that said, as much as I love him, I see him putting up similar stats as last year eventually over the course of the season. I think he'll have 9pts/7rebs/1.2blk. I also feel he's NEVER gonna play in close 4th quarter moments since we don't have a strong #2 scorer. Every time he touches the ball they'd foul him and put him on the line. I'm praying he's at least brought his ft% for like 65%

LBJ TO BK 08 · Post #3 » by **LBJ TO BK 08** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:07 pm

I don't ever think he will be a star, but a very solid starter.

he easily could have maybe not a star but a pretty effective big man...i hate to say it but from here is game can only declince...i thought marcus willams and boone would be a sic duo in future years seeing they were both uconn products and they worked the high pick and roll to profection...like you guys said hes not gna be getting the same mintues anymore

Stone · Post #4 » by **Stone** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:08 pm

I think he'll lead us in boards this season at around 8.5 , 10 points and 1 block. But I agree 100% he must improve his FT%. If he could develope a nice little mid range shot he will be in this league a long time. Even though I look at the Nets as a sum of all parts if I had to pick a favorite player it would be Josh. I hope he does well.

Preludepunk27 · Post #5 » by **Preludepunk27** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:14 pm

As of right this moment I think a lot of people would name Josh as their favorite player. He is exactly what a player should be. Hard working, not complaining, takes any roll asked of him. Granted his only 1 of 3 guys who was on the team at the start of last season so it may change. I can see Yi or Brook or CDR taking it if they show any potential this season for me personally.

mack69 · Post #6 » by **mack69** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:36 pm

I am expecting big things from Josh this season. According to the Dave D, he has responded to off-season program of hitting the weights and working on his offense.

Everybody knows he is one of my favorite players on the team. It would be so nice if he can develop even further.

Preludepunk27 · Post #7 » by **Preludepunk27** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:46 pm

^^^ I do agree it should be interesting how he's progressed this offseason considering he has never actually been able to work out in the offseason.

MrDollarBills · Post #8 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:02 pm

12ppg, 10rpg, .8blks

NetsForce · Post #9 » by **NetsForce** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:57 am

Pace adjusted + Per 36 minute numbers from the 2007-2008 season comparing David Lee to Josh Boone. Lee's stats are the first line, Boone's stats are the bottom line.

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FGA    FG%    FTA    FT%    RPG     APG    TOV    SPG    BPG    PF     PPG
9.45   55.2   3.61   81.9   11.07   1.49   1.49   0.87   0.50   3.23   13.43
8.89   54.8   4.44   45.6   10.47   1.15   1.43   0.72   1.29   3.15   11.76

Statistically the two players are pretty similar. The main difference in their PPG is due to the fact that Lee is a very good FT shooter while Boone is a horrific one, and the difference in RPG is because Lee is the better defensive rebounder (while Boone has a slight edge on Lee in offensive rebounds per game)... Other than that Lee is the superior passer (surprisingly not by a whole lot), and Boone is the better shot blocker...

The one thing that these stats don't tell though is that Lee was assisted on 59% of his made field goals while Boone was assisted on a whopping 72% of his. Something can be said for playing within the offense, but if Boone can develop some semblance of an offensive game I think the Nets are going to find it very hard to part with him.

I guess the only reason why I'm posting this is because I never understood all the David Lee hype and Boone doesn't seem that far off from him...

Preludepunk27 · Post #10 » by **Preludepunk27** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:16 pm

David Lee is a solid player. He's like one of the few Knicks I actually like. The problem is he isn't a true PF IMO. He's really a SF in the NBA but his jump shot isn't consistent enough for my liking. Even with that said, he hustle's his tail off and most teams would kill to have him and just pray he can gain some constancy shooting the ball. He does everything else well. He personally reminds me of a rich mans Darius Songaila. I always liked his hustle/work ethich, I just see Lee as a better version of him.

I just think it's hard to compare a guy like Boone and a guy like Lee. I love Josh though too.

mack69 · Post #11 » by **mack69** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:16 pm

Lee can play facing the basket which makes numbers slightly better.

My hope for Josh is that if he can make a 10 foot jump shot. Then if he can develop a up and under move and a mean streak. He will be fine.

jeff1624 · Post #12 » by **jeff1624** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:53 pm

If boone were to play 30+ min i'm pretty sure he'd average a double double. Something like 13.2 and 10.4, but since we drafted Lopez and traded for Yi that ain't happening.

Boone is IMHO the best big we have(besides a healthy Krstic) at this point and it'll be an unjustice if one of the 2 mentioned earlier were to start ahead of him at any point throughout the season.

Preludepunk27 · Post #13 » by **Preludepunk27** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:55 pm

Good thing we could potentially start Yi at the 3 at times. I just want to see how Boone does now that he's actually have "an offseason" lol. I think if he can get his ft% to like 65%, 13pts 7-9rebs if he players 30+ minutes is not unrealistic.

S.I.C. GM · Post #14 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:59 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:Good thing we could potentially start Yi at the 3 at times. I just want to see how Boone does now that he's actually have "an offseason" lol. I think if he can get his ft% to like 65%, 13pts 7-9rebs if he players 30+ minutes is not unrealistic.

I like the quotes.

I am with you here. What type of offense has he been working on? I dont see him getting a jump shot. Baby hook maybe, but lets be real. The guy is great with pick and rolls and put backs. The thing he really needed to work on is his FT.

Post #15 » by **Rich Rane** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:26 pm

S.I.C. GM wrote:
Preludepunk27 wrote:Good thing we could potentially start Yi at the 3 at times. I just want to see how Boone does now that he's actually have "an offseason" lol. I think if he can get his ft% to like 65%, 13pts 7-9rebs if he players 30+ minutes is not unrealistic.

I like the quotes.

I am with you here. What type of offense has he been working on? I dont see him getting a jump shot. Baby hook maybe, but lets be real. The guy is great with pick and rolls and put backs. The thing he really needed to work on is his FT.

Some toughness around the rim to finish better would certainly help. Lots of times last year, he was sent to the line with weak fouls trying to finish in the post or from a putback to only miss two at the line.

ecuhus1981 · Post #16 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:46 pm

Listen to me, fellow Nets fans:

Josh Boone will be a backup next year. A supersub, absolutely, but he just won't have the PT to be putting up the numbers some have suggested. He WILL suffer a statistical regression, but don't be surprised if his level of play is far superior to last year.

That's right, whether Brook actually outplays Boone in training camp and suits our offense better or not, that old flame Frank has for Cardinal C halftwins will re-ignite in no time.

At PF, after pimping Jianlian in a marketing and media blitz all summer, we can't bring him of the bench. He's being billed as the future for the Nets at PF, and in this matter, Frank has no choice.

Sean Williams will not be an 82-game player for us (IF he's on our roster this fall), but he's going to steal some PT of the bench as well. What does this all mean for Boone? Well, I'll show you:

Josh Boone - '08-'09 Projected Statistics
21mpg, 8.4ppg, 7.1rpg, 1.7apg, 0.5spg, 1.1bpg, 58%FG, 62%FT

Before everyone crucifies me, realize that I have attributed more points, assists and blocks per game, in less minutes. I'm also going out on a limb for my dude, but I truly believe Josh will put in the work to become a 60+% FT shooter.

Preludepunk27 · Post #17 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:44 am

The stats in my first post in this thread have almost identical stats to your for basically those same reasons. I've just stated later that if he gets starters minutes it's not unrealistic to think he can put up 13pts/7rebs a game.

rag-time4 · Post #18 » by **rag-time4** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:26 am

RJ 24 wrote:I'm just curious to see what you think Josh's numbers are going to be this year assuming he is the starter. He has grown to be my favorite player and I want to see him succeed. I don't ever think he will be a star, but a very solid starter.

For the 08-09 season i see Josh with

13.5 ppg 10.4 rpg 1.0 bpg

If all the Nets get out of him is 1 block per game, the Nets defense in the paint will be a major weakness.

Boone's major weakness is his help defense.... Way too often he allows opposing guards to penetrate and finish.

Preludepunk27 · Post #19 » by **Preludepunk27** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:57 am

^^^^ We've never been a shot blocking team and we've usually had a pretty solid defense if you don't count this past season. Hell Jason Collins was our starting center for like 7 years. Isn't his career blocks per game like .4 lol? People automatically equate blocked shots with good defense which is an ignorant assumption.

I can agree his help defense isn't the greatest but you're talking about a 23 year old big man who has never had an offseason to actually "work out." You're forgetting the learning curve big men have in the NBA, especially on the defensive end.

MrDollarBills · Post #20 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:19 pm

I can't see Lopez starting over Boone right now, Boone is becoming a solid pro and he's imo a superior rebounder. Let Brook actually get used to the NBA and see if his offensive game works against legit NBA opponents before we automatically dismiss Josh for him.

I start Boone and let Brook outplay him for that starter spot....Boone imo is a LEGIT double double player in this league...some of you really undervalue this kid....he's not perfect, he needs to finish stronger at the rim at times and he needs to get himself up at least to 72% FTs...but Josh works hard and tries despite his limitations...and on offense, he's SOLID at running the pick and roll, he moves great without the ball, FAR better than Sean who looked lost last year during the plays.

Boone is our guy, barring a trade for superior talent.