Trade idea with the Raptors

TdotWattz · Post #1 » by **TdotWattz** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:47 pm

How would you guys feel about this trade....

Wolves give up McCants and Madsen
for Kris Humphries and Joey Graham

let me know your takes

4ho5ive · Post #2 » by **4ho5ive** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:17 pm

Our list of swingman/PF's:

Ryan Gomes, Craig Smith, Kevin Love, Al Jefferson, Mike Miller, Rodney Carney, Corey Brewer, Brian Cardinal

Not to mention McCants and Madsen who you have outgoing, in a deal that brings in another swingman that I dont think is as good as McCants (Graham) but im not sure as I dont watch him often and another sligtly undersized PF for a less productive but great lockerrom guy in Madsen. Humphries' contract also does not cooperate with our 2010 FA plan

Im not sure what the positive to this is.

deeney0 · Post #3 » by **deeney0** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:24 pm

Whether the value is O.K. is debatable, but the last thing the Wolves need to do is add another PF at the expense of getting poorer at guard.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #4 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:45 pm

I hate the deal because McCants is way better than Graham and MN needs to add another pure PF about as much as I need to add an extra inch to my already cumbersome and bulbous package

TdotWattz · Post #5 » by **TdotWattz** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:11 pm

LOL, you guys are hilarious....
but Minnesota has a 2010 FA Plan ? Does anyone care to share what that is ?

I Agree though, this trade is not even close as i think McCants is a great scorer, but some people on the Raptors board think this is fair value

Post #6 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:18 pm

TdotWattz wrote:LOL, you guys are hilarious....
but Minnesota has a 2010 FA Plan ? Does anyone care to share what that is ?

Step1. Free up cap space
Step2. Sign Free Agent

I know, it's complex.

4ho5ive · Post #7 » by **4ho5ive** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:26 pm

The 2010 plan goes as follows:

1. Before the start of the 2008-2009 season, McHale will step down as VP of Basketball Operations in Minnesota handing the responsibilities over to the young, scrappy Fred Hoiberg.

2. McHale will then infiltrate Portland Trailblazer HQ dressed in a janitors uniform. He will then make his way to owner Paul Allen's office (shortly after he drugged PA) and inform Kevin Pritchard that he has just been fired, and appoints himself GM.

3. As his first order of business he deals Brandon Roy, LMA and a first round pick to his good friend Larry Bird for Jamal Tinsley. He then sends Oden to Boston for Patrick O Bryant and completely destroys the Portland franchise from the inside, doing friends Larry Bird and Danny Ainge, as well as the Minnesota Timberwolves franchise a huge favor.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

junkyarddog57 · Post #8 » by **junkyarddog57** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:43 pm

LOL @ 2010 plan
nobody would choose minny over newyork, brooklyn, miami
you guys are as screwed as we are when it comes to free agent signing

TdotWattz · Post #9 » by **TdotWattz** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:11 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
TdotWattz wrote:LOL, you guys are hilarious....
but Minnesota has a 2010 FA Plan ? Does anyone care to share what that is ?

Step1. Free up cap space
Step2. Sign Free Agent

I know, it's complex.

No disrespect, but i agree with the guy that just posted before me. Minnesota has to be one of the 5 most least desirable places to play. Both Marbury and KG bounced in their primes. The slightest chance will be that if Al Jefferson develops to be a top 5 big man and Randy Foye catches up to Rudy Gay's pace, then maybe someone may consider it. But almost every team in the league has a 2010 plan and becuase of this, teams like Minny and my Raptors arent going to land any of the huge FA's but instead end up paying 10 mil to the likes or Corey Maggette

Post #10 » by **Basti** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:40 pm

TdotWattz wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
TdotWattz wrote:LOL, you guys are hilarious....
but Minnesota has a 2010 FA Plan ? Does anyone care to share what that is ?

Step1. Free up cap space
Step2. Sign Free Agent

I know, it's complex.

No disrespect, but i agree with the guy that just posted before me. Minnesota has to be one of the 5 most least desirable places to play. Both Marbury and KG bounced in their primes. The slightest chance will be that if Al Jefferson develops to be a top 5 big man and Randy Foye catches up to Rudy Gay's pace, then maybe someone may consider it. But almost every team in the league has a 2010 plan and becuase of this, teams like Minny and my Raptors arent going to land any of the huge FA's but instead end up paying 10 mil to the likes or Corey Maggette

KG NEVER wanted to leave - at least not officially. he mentioned it many times that he would have been here for the long haul but then again I'm sure he was happy to be traded.

4ho5ive · Post #11 » by **4ho5ive** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:37 pm

TdotWattz wrote:No disrespect, but i agree with the guy that just posted before me. Minnesota has to be one of the 5 most least desirable places to play. Both Marbury and KG bounced in their primes. The slightest chance will be that if Al Jefferson develops to be a top 5 big man and Randy Foye catches up to Rudy Gay's pace, then maybe someone may consider it. But almost every team in the league has a 2010 plan and becuase of this, teams like Minny and my Raptors arent going to land any of the huge FA's but instead end up paying 10 mil to the likes or Corey Maggette

Well I cant speak for you guys, and I cant even really speak for us, but you forget how much money talks. We have never had as much money as we will (likely) have come 2010 to throw at a FA. And while I agree that this isnt #1 on anyones list I still think we will land an impact player. Having cap-space allows you to facilitate trades as well. Look for a few big S&T deals to go down that offseason with teams not wanting to lose their stars for nothing. Im confident in our ability to make something happen

shrink · Post #12 » by **shrink** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:28 pm

To be honest, we've had a harder time getting players to leave MIN (Cassell, Sprewell, even KG) than we've had keeping them (Marbury). I'm going to blame Gugliotta on Marbury's attitude and not MIN.

deeney0 · Post #13 » by **deeney0** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:36 pm

junkyarddog57 wrote:LOL @ 2010 plan
nobody would choose minny over newyork, brooklyn, miami
you guys are as screwed as we are when it comes to free agent signing

This is coming from a fan of a team from Canada? The Walgreen's of countries?

TdotWattz · Post #14 » by **TdotWattz** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:51 am

4ho5ive i made a huge list of all the people available in the General Section in a thread called 2010 plan....Im sure Minny will be able to get a couple guys actually, just not any of the top 10-12 guys

Post #15 » by **Worm Guts** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:32 am

junkyarddog57 wrote:LOL @ 2010 plan
nobody would choose minny over newyork, brooklyn, miami
you guys are as screwed as we are when it comes to free agent signing

I didn't know New York could sign every free agent. Doesn't seem like that would work under the salary cap.

shrink · Post #16 » by **shrink** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:22 am

deeney0 wrote:
junkyarddog57 wrote:LOL @ 2010 plan
nobody would choose minny over newyork, brooklyn, miami
you guys are as screwed as we are when it comes to free agent signing

This is coming from a fan of a team from Canada? The Walgreen's of countries?

LOL! Hey JYD .. what's the tax rate in Canada again?

Devilzsidewalk · Post #17 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:54 am

I respect fervent nationalism as much as the next guy, but all things considered, I think I`d rather live in Toronto than Minneapolis.

Post #18 » by **TheFranchise21** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:52 am

What's with the jabs at our neighbors to the north? This is a basketball forum, not a Prince > Celine Dion forum.

Post #19 » by **TheFranchise21** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:54 am

4ho5ive wrote:Well I cant speak for you guys, and I cant even really speak for us, but you forget how much money talks. We have never had as much money as we will (likely) have come 2010 to throw at a FA. And while I agree that this isnt #1 on anyones list I still think we will land an impact player. Having cap-space allows you to facilitate trades as well. Look for a few big S&T deals to go down that offseason with teams not wanting to lose their stars for nothing. Im confident in our ability to make something happen

Word, see Brand, Elton.

But like WG mentioned, those teams junkyarddog57 mentioned can't sign all the free agents. Last time I checked, T-Mac and Grant Hill followed the $$$ signs to Orlando.

GopherIt! · Post #20 » by **GopherIt!** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:57 am

I don't pay close attention but isn't Canada on strike?