Ben Wallace?(turns out to be more than just Ben)

eyejayem · Post #1 » by **eyejayem** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:14 pm

Any chance we can move him? I was hoping anything that still expires within the next year or two? I mean even if we had to downgrade picks by giving up a 1st for a 2nd or cash and expirings? Even a better player with a longer contract but I rather not?

The only reason I ask because in a way I think I would still try to consider signing AV next season since his value has not gone up and could possibly have gone down, and nobody really wants to work with his agent but if we gave Wallace away we would possibly in a better spot and move the logjam at PF.

I know how much we are against NY trades but what about a (I hate to say this):

Ben Wallace/Eric Snow/Joe Smith

for

Stephon Marbury/Jerome James/David Lee

Knicks need the C and Wallace was looked at before to balance the defensive struggles of Zbo and Curry but this way they dont have to give up either one and to our benefit we dont have to take either one. D'antoni also likes Smith and his offense because it fits his system and gives them a good Vet off the bench besides the fact him and Snow give more managable expirings than Marbury's besides the fact of giving up the headache in Marbury.

Cavs get Marbury who we dont really want but he is a hugh expiring. I dont know if he wins over Brown and gives his OK to stay or Ferry just cuts him. But we are uncertain at the PG position with no PGs(until Delonte signs). James should automatically be cut but he is in the same boat as Snow(injured)and could possibly retire. Lee is the incentive and would be the perfect PF next to Lebron until Hickson is ready and he could get back to his double double ways. Besides rumors have been going off and on of how he doesnt fit D'antoni because of his lack of offense and is rumored to be moved. Well he fits Browns system perfect. I would be willing to add cash or Chicago's 2nd possibly but nothing else.

So if we do this Varajao has the chance to start. And he could be managable again and possibly sign a long deal that is reasonable. Lee,Varajao, and Hickson will be a good youth in the froncourt till we find our replacement for Z.

Cevap · Post #2 » by **Cevap** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:28 pm

I don't believe that the Knicks will give away their biggest expiring and biggest asset just to acquire Big Ben and Joe Smith.

L&H_05 · Post #3 » by **L&H_05** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:31 pm

Nope..

Does Lebron really have to like everyone? The star is getting some flack for his comments made the other day regarding Stephon Marbury. Lebron said, “I don’t know him that well, but I couldn’t have a guy like that on my team".̶.

Benedict_Boozer · Post #4 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:48 pm

Only guy on the Knicks I would want is David Lee. I would consider Jamal Crawford as well just because I'm tired of him destroying us every year.

eyejayem · Post #5 » by **eyejayem** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:04 pm

So how about just moving Ben Wallace for a contract before 2010?

And Marbury is ~20mil exp but they get back ~13mil in exp.

Hydroponic3385 · Post #6 » by **Hydroponic3385** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:47 pm

Why would we want to get rid of Ben Wallace?

We're not going to get anything decent in return for him. Plus, he was fine for us last year and is a good player if you just analyze him in regards to what he's supposed to do (play solid D, grab boards, be a good teammate and intimidate the other team). And as far as 2010 goes, why trade for someone who expires by 2010 when Ben expires by then anyways?

I just cannot picture Andy sticking around. As long as he plays decently well this season, he's still a pretty good asset to combine with Wally (and maybe other players or picks) at some point this season. Plus, I believe there's just too much bad blood between Andy and the Cavs now. That and he thinks he's starting material on a contending team. I'll tell you this right now, he's simply not.