Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home

[Neusch23]

I'm not a Favre hater. Favre wants a release so he can join the Vikes and beat my Packers. That makes me a Packer supporter. If Favre would have stayed un-retired the first time and started like TT said he could then I'd have supported him as well.

Please "man up" and answer my original question. What does Favre need to do that he hasn't already done for you to agree it's a good idea to give AR a shot?

We don't owe AR anything. Nor do we owe Brett Favre. The Packers OWE the fans the best team they can put out on the field.

My opinion since day one has been that Brett is the better QB, today. I can't worry about the future, because that isn't guar. I have to worry about the now.

If the Pack feel that Rodgers is the best QB, I stand behind that decision. But if Brett wants to play, he has a contract, and the right to play. That doesn't mean he has to start, but it is obvious that the Packers know he is a good QB, or they would have released him.

He will be traded to the Vikes, and while I wish it never would have come to that, it is what it is.

All we as an organisation need to worry about then is winning the games we need to, to make the playoffs.

[ReasonablySober]

Favre to Chicago for a 2nd rounder is a rumor I just heard from someone.

[xTitan]

Ah yes, the Giants. It's been a few months but I seem to recall that still in their prime Tony Romo and Tom Brady didn't exactly have great games and lead their heavily favored teams to victory either... "But they didn't throw an interception in overtime!". Very true. Neither QB got their teams that far in the game. Both lost in regulation.

Go back and watch all those games plus Tampa, the difference was that the Giants got no where near the pressure on Favre that Brady, Romo, and Garcia had to deal with.....a fact you overlooked.

[Reddeye]

Adam Schefter from the NFL Network said that he was told the Packers didn't offer Favre $20 million over 10 years. Schefter said the Packers offered different packages to Favre, but that was not one of them.

Schefter used the word "packages" I am not sure what he meant by "package" if it involved money or not.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I love how people are saying the are scared of Favre because they wont trade him to MN. Its not Favre Vs Rodgers.
Its Packers VS the Vikings and the upgrade of Favre and Jackson.
Hell, if they felt Favre was better than AR right now for the Pack, theres no way they would trade AR to the Queens no matter how much fuss he would make.
Would that make the Pack scared of AR? Big picture people.

[ReasonablySober]

I love how people are saying the are scared of Favre because they wont trade him to MN. Its not Favre Vs Rodgers.
Its Packers VS the Vikings and the upgrade of Favre and Jackson.
Hell, if they felt Favre was better than AR right now for the Pack, theres no way they would trade AR to the Queens no matter how much fuss he would make.
Would that make the Pack scared of AR? Big picture people.

That's exactly what I said pages ago.

However, I'm almost to the point where this whole thing has gotten to be too much. It has to be resolved and if Favre won't come up with a list of teams, he's going to have to be released or dealt to Minnesota (or Chicago, if that's where he wants to be).

Regardless, he's completely ruined himself in the eyes of a lot of fans, myself included.

[InsideOut]

I'm not a Favre hater. Favre wants a release so he can join the Vikes and beat my Packers. That makes me a Packer supporter. If Favre would have stayed un-retired the first time and started like TT said he could then I'd have supported him as well.

Please "man up" and answer my original question. What does Favre need to do that he hasn't already done for you to agree it's a good idea to give AR a shot?

We don't owe AR anything. Nor do we owe Brett Favre. The Packers OWE the fans the best team they can put out on the field.

My opinion since day one has been that Brett is the better QB, today. I can't worry about the future, because that isn't guar. I have to worry about the now.

If the Pack feel that Rodgers is the best QB, I stand behind that decision. But if Brett wants to play, he has a contract, and the right to play. That doesn't mean he has to start, but it is obvious that the Packers know he is a good QB, or they would have released him.

He will be traded to the Vikes, and while I wish it never would have come to that, it is what it is.

All we as an organisation need to worry about then is winning the games we need to, to make the playoffs.

I'm not saying we owe anyone anything and I know you think Favre is better now. All I want to know is what do YOU have to see out of Favre NOW to be willing to give AR a shot. I'm not trying to be a jerk I just want a straight answer on what you would need to see out of Favre to put AR in. Please give me some numbers or examples.

And I agree Favre has a contract. As far as I know it hasn't been reported Favre has a contract that gives him the right to veto all trades or demand who he wants to be traded too. So as part of that contract don't the Packers have the right to trade him to anyone? So if Favre blocks these trades isn't he failing to live up to his contract? As I see in return for GB paying Favre $12.5 million they can trade him, bench him, start him...whatever. If Favre doesn't like it he can retire. What he can't do is pick and choose what parts of his contracts he wants to follow.

[Lippo]

IMO Brett doesnt want to play for the Packers first and foremost like many think. I believe when he retired he was hoping for the Packers to sign a bunch of extensions and bring in a few FA's , and when he came out of retirement, we couldnt afford his contract. Forcing us to cut him and allow him to unite with his target team the Viking. We did something to scorn Brett over the years, and hes out to hurt our franchise...IMHO

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

IMO Brett doesnt want to play for the Packers first and foremost like many think. I believe when he retired he was hoping for the Packers to sign a bunch of extensions and bring in a few FA's , and when he came out of retirement, we couldnt afford his contract. Forcing us to cut him and allow him to unite with his target team the Viking. We did something to scorn Brett over the years, and hes out to hurt our franchise...IMHO

I agree with this to an extent. I think Favre is ticked that the front office didn't make the moves he wanted (resigning wahle, rivera, trading for moss etc.) and he had enough of it. He announced his retirement, hoping the packers would use their cap to fill holes and then he would come back forcing the packers to cut him. I think some proof of this is when he told the packers he was coming back in late march and the Packers said they would take him back and start him. He then realized they weren't going to cut him, so he "changed his mind" and said he didn't want to come back. Then he decided to try his plan all over again saying he wanted to come back right before training camp hoping they would cut him, but again they didn't so he resorted to other tactics (asking to be released, not giving Thompson a list of teams he'll go to, not speaking with the jets and bucs, etc.) and still is in order to get what he wants.

[Fandom]

Favre flight expected in Green Bay...

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1& ... 8&id=44142

Green Bay - The NFL Network is reporting Brett Favre is scheduled to arrive in Green Bay at 9 p.m. via private jet.

There is a chartered plane scheduled to depart Hattiesburg at 4:10 p.m. with a 6:45 p.m. arrival time at Austin Straubel.

However, Favre is notoriously late boarding his private flights. He was even tardy when he flew up for his "retirement" press conference.

Of course, Favre could change his mind. He's been known to do that.

[Neusch23]

I would like to add this as a wrinkle. I have not seen this reported, and maybe some of you can make some calls to possibly verify it. I generally don't post rumors that I don't have at least 2 people giving me the same info, but here it goes...

Favre retired because he was forced to choose between family and football by his wife. Why? Because the last week of Feb she caught Brett cheating on her. Now we know this isn't the first time he has swayed, but she made him choose.

He choose family, and they have since worked on their marriage, and she wants him to play so that they can continue to keep "working on it" But have some "time apart" as well.

Brett wants to play, and he has never said he didn't. But here we are now.

My source is a buddy from Madison who I hadn't talked with for awhile, but he went to UW with, you guessed it, Darrell Bevell. He heard from his friends who are still close with Darrell about this.

So, take it for what it is worth, a big rumor. I don't think it helps Bretts view in any of this, but the majority of people up here are starting to change sides back to Brett, after the FO, and all of the lies and antics up to this point.

I still think he will be a Queen by early next week....if he isn't starting for us.

[EastSideBucksFan]

I love how people are saying the are scared of Favre because they wont trade him to MN. Its not Favre Vs Rodgers.
Its Packers VS the Vikings and the upgrade of Favre and Jackson.
Hell, if they felt Favre was better than AR right now for the Pack, theres no way they would trade AR to the Queens no matter how much fuss he would make.
Would that make the Pack scared of AR? Big picture people.

If Rodgers was the superior player than TT would have no problem allowing Favre to come into camp and compete. Thats why he's kept him away.

It looks like he's coming, under what pretenses, we don't know yet.

[mnstinks]

It looks like he's coming, under what pretenses, we don't know yet.

Is faking out the Packers, or trying to trick them again?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

If Rodgers was the superior player than TT would have no problem allowing Favre to come into camp and compete. Thats why he's kept him away.

It looks like he's coming, under what pretenses, we don't know yet.

I agree with you on that they may think Favre is better than rodgers, thus keeping him away from camp and the controversy. Its just I saw and heard people saying they are afraid of him, so thats why they wont trade and then using it to say it to say it because hes better than AR. Its really 2 separate situations.

[Neusch23]

I don't think they are afraid of Brett, I believe they are afraid of what could happen to the division if Brett Favre is under center for any of the teams.

really, right now we could still be considered the favorites to come out of the NFC north. With Brett in MN, that changes things dramatically. I believe that TT and company are afraid it may cost them the division, or even worse, the playoffs.

Do they change their stance and just fold, making Brett the QB to keep that posiblity from happening, who knows. The Packers have that right.

Bottom line, this is about winning football games, and making the playoffs. They are making it harder on themselves with Brett a Queen. But that may be their only choice to keep him away, if that is what they REALLY want.

[jviers77]

The bottom line here is, regardless of whether this is purely a business decision, a football decision, whatever...The GM's job, the president's job, the coaching staff's job, is to put the best team on the field. Unless this has to do with cap money, TT is not putting the best team he can on the field. When will somebody flat-out ask TT if he feels Aaron Rodgers is better than Brett Favre? Why won't there be a QB competition? Nobody has done that. Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, to name a few, all waffled on retirement toward the end of their careers. I would love to know what really happened to have TT and MMac not want Favre to even show up in GB. It seems there has to be more to this story.

TT knows that Favre would win the job, so he's not allowing him to compete for it. If Brett wants to play in GB, let him. If they don't want him in GB, trade him for the best available deal. TT is trying to have his cake and eat it too by having his love child Rodgers as the starter and Favre not playing for anyone.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

The bottom line here is, regardless of whether this is purely a business decision, a football decision, whatever...The GM's job, the president's job, the coaching staff's job, is to put the best team on the field. Unless this has to do with cap money, TT is not putting the best team he can on the field. When will somebody flat-out ask TT if he feels Aaron Rodgers is better than Brett Favre? Why won't there be a QB competition? Nobody has done that. Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, to name a few, all waffled on retirement toward the end of their careers. I would love to know what really happened to have TT and MMac not want Favre to even show up in GB. It seems there has to be more to this story.

TT knows that Favre would win the job, so he's not allowing him to compete for it. If Brett wants to play in GB, let him. If they don't want him in GB, trade him for the best available deal. TT is trying to have his cake and eat it too by having his love child Rodgers as the starter and Favre not playing for anyone.

There is a difference between the best players and the team that has the best chance of winning. The Lakers with Malone and Payton had the best players. Didnt work out. You can disagree with whether he is right or wrong but TT and MM (people never mention him, but he always stated Rodgers too and prob isnt a big fan of Favre) prob thinks the team is best if they show confidence in rodgers whether or not he is the best player.

[InsideOut]

The bottom line here is, regardless of whether this is purely a business decision, a football decision, whatever...The GM's job, the president's job, the coaching staff's job, is to put the best team on the field. Unless this has to do with cap money, TT is not putting the best team he can on the field. When will somebody flat-out ask TT if he feels Aaron Rodgers is better than Brett Favre? Why won't there be a QB competition? Nobody has done that. Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, to name a few, all waffled on retirement toward the end of their careers. I would love to know what really happened to have TT and MMac not want Favre to even show up in GB. It seems there has to be more to this story.

TT knows that Favre would win the job, so he's not allowing him to compete for it. If Brett wants to play in GB, let him. If they don't want him in GB, trade him for the best available deal. TT is trying to have his cake and eat it too by having his love child Rodgers as the starter and Favre not playing for anyone.

You are just so wrong. TT is more than happy to trade Favre and let him play football. The problem is Favre won't return the calls of the teams that are trying to trade for him and he won't give TT a list of teams he'd play for. Also, it is the job of TT and MM to win games. If they don't they lose their million dollar jobs. Do you really think these guys are going to risk million dollar jobs just because they are in love with AR? Or could it be that maybe they want AR to start because Favre changed his mind 4 times in 3 weeks, insulted the Packers and called them liars, has broken their trust because he blabbed to the media about their private conversations, has threatened the Packers... No, I'm sure none of that matters and all they care about is sucking up to AR.

[Neusch23]

The bottom line here is, regardless of whether this is purely a business decision, a football decision, whatever...The GM's job, the president's job, the coaching staff's job, is to put the best team on the field. Unless this has to do with cap money, TT is not putting the best team he can on the field. When will somebody flat-out ask TT if he feels Aaron Rodgers is better than Brett Favre? Why won't there be a QB competition? Nobody has done that. Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, to name a few, all waffled on retirement toward the end of their careers. I would love to know what really happened to have TT and MMac not want Favre to even show up in GB. It seems there has to be more to this story.

TT knows that Favre would win the job, so he's not allowing him to compete for it. If Brett wants to play in GB, let him. If they don't want him in GB, trade him for the best available deal. TT is trying to have his cake and eat it too by having his love child Rodgers as the starter and Favre not playing for anyone.

There is a difference between the best players and the team that has the best chance of winning. The Lakers with Malone and Payton had the best players. Didnt work out. You can disagree with whether he is right or wrong but TT and MM (people never mention him, but he always stated Rodgers too and prob isnt a big fan of Favre) prob thinks the team is best if they show confidence in rodgers whether or not he is the best player.

Yet they risk a PR nightmare, and a split locker room to prove it? Dumb.

I read into Charles Woodsons comments and I see "If they are willing to do this to Brett Favre, what are they going to do to me, near my end?"

Also, are we ignoring the fact that we are letting our best running back sit out of camp, and our D-line is as thin as our O-line a few years ago? What if Harrell really does miss the season, or if Jolly gets suspended? What then? Cole, who was hurt most of last year is next in line....AS THE STARTER. We have a lot of more pressing football issues to handle, let alone to keep screwing up the Favre disaster.

Mickey Davis was right, Harlan would never had let it come to this.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I think there would have been a split Lockerroom either way. When they made their decision for Rodgers who thought that Favre would go this far to only play for the vikings.

As for the Grant thing and d-line you are exactly right, but separate issues from this Favre thing and how TT has handled it.