Ramblings on Roster- OL

[eagle13]

Not ready to sleep and wanted to yak football. Tis the (Pre) Season!
This just some details to kick around. I welcome reading any ideas you have.

There is a strong faction that states – its won in the trenches. Consider me one.
OL – where it starts. DL – where it stops.

OL -
Consider Chad, Mark, Scott & Jason solid.
2 main needs – starting LG & backup (future) LT.
We have two promising young prospects. IMHO
Josh Sitton & Allen Barbre
We also have College, Moll, Costin, Beno, Orrin….

Barbre (2nd yr - 4th rd - T in college) is a great athlete with a positive nasty attitude and is current odds on favorite for LG (despite ultra low Wonderlic).

Its way early but 4th pick Josh Sitton has looked great in pass blocking drills. If he can keep that going in games and be effective in the ZBS and the ground game (our weakness) then I say play em.

And there’s Daryn Colledge. Decent pass blocking LG that has not proven out in run blocking. Inconsistent. Terrible outing as starting LT last season. Needed lots of help.

Who is the best LT prospect? IMO its Barbre.
Who is best G prospect? IMO its Sitton (after spitz).

Sitton has taken all his reps at RG. As a rookie he benefits staying at one position. Meanwhile Spitz has started a few games at LG. Soooo….

Chad, Mark, Scott and
Sitton at RG
Spitz at LG

Practice Barbre exclusively at LT and have him ready there. He also of course knows LG.

College? Stays at LG backing Spitz who is #2 center and RG, so College effectively backs all 3 interior spots Spitz, Wells, & Sitton. Also 3rd string LT. His best position is probably RT so he can concentrate on LG that he’s been doing and add RT.

Costin has been around 3yrs. Its now or never. Some tout his versatility. But IMHO that is more of a result of coaches looking for a position than talent. He showed flashes but did not take ownership of LG last year when he was given repeated shot. This camp he’s at center but he’s clearly #3 center behind Spitz. He’s not even in mix for starting G spot.

Moll played sorta OK as a rookie but entering his 3rd yr he has not gotten better and also has not put claim to a G spot. Currently is being killed in LT experiment. A converted college TE he’s probably best at RT with RG 2nd.

Orrin? Maybe he’s got something but I figured he was hanging around b/c he showed promise at LT – but – currently he’s working at RT. With Moll getting killed over at LT - its not impressive that Orrin’s on the R. He’s toast.

Beno – another converted TE. Big. Working exclusively at RT. A project. Though unproven, probably too good a prospect to expose on PS.

So Pack keeps min of 8.
LT CLif / Barbre / College
LG Spitz / College / Barbre
C Wells / Spitz
RG Sitton / Sptiz
RT Tausch / Beno / College

IF they carry 9 then either Moll or Costin. Both play Rg & Rt. Costin also C. Seems many of you like Juice. I prefer Moll. But it don’t really matter as it will be either guys last season.
Maybe we sign another final cut player like Palmer, bush & Peprah 2 yrs back.
Pack started last season with just 8.
Usually just 7 active. That’d be starters + Barbre & College.

Stash rookie FAs G Keenan & Carvallo C on PS.

A thot?
Since our 3 best TEs seem to excel as receivers and we lack a blocker – to maximize roster spots couldn’t Moll or Beno serve as TE in blocking line ups? Something like Kevin Barry years back? Neither guy is Barry as a blocker yet – but both had college careers as TEs? Probably too slow to play TE in pros but for blocking alignments?

That’s it. I’m ready to crash. What do you guys think?

[Balls2TheWalls]

Darren Colledge is losing favor with the coaching staff. He has pretty much been replaced by Allen Barbre in the starting lineup, and looked pretty lost at backup LT.

Here is what I'm seeing on the O-Line:

Locks: Clifton, Tauscher, Spitz, Wells, Barbre, Sitton
Right now this looks like the starting line, with Sitton as the first backup.

Bubble Makes: Colledge, Coston, Moll
Moll makes it on potential for one more year. I don't think he ever lives up to his first season billing, and probably gets cut next season. Colledge has turned into an extremely average OL player from an awful OL player, he will probably make it because we cannot find a viable replacement. Coston is a solid utility offensive player.

Bubble Cuts: Thompson
I agree with you, he looks gone for sure.

Practice Squad : Giacomini
Young pick with a mean streak. Looks like a project.

I think that the more I look at the offensive line, the more top heavy it looks. It is definitely a position where we cannot afford more than maybe 1 injury (And it would be awful if that injury was at tackle).

[eagle13]

I called for this in my post.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/app ... NTCAROUSEL

"Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Spitz would join the competition on the left side, leaving rookie fourth-round draft pick Josh Sitton in the driver’s seat to earn a chance to start on the right."

Next - Barbre at LT.

[eagle13]

On Tuesday, three days after Daryn Colledge’s horrendous outing at left tackle in San Francisco, Barbre was moved to left tackle, his position in college. And the results were impressive, to say the least.

“He did a very nice job in the one-on-ones,” offensive line coach James Campen said. “We’re going to look at him for some flexibility also. We have a lot of guys who can move around.”

With Chad Clifton given another day of rest, the Packers worked Tony Moll at left tackle with the No. 1 offense backed by Barbre. Colledge, who gave up two sacks and two pressures to linebacker 49ers Tully Banta-Cain, worked primarily as the starting left guard because Jason Spitz is playing center for injured Scott Wells.

Barbre went 5-0 in the one-on-ones, including a 3-0 record at left tackle against Michael Montgomery.

The versatile Moll, who also had an impressive practice, has come on after a slow start.

“He’s starting to play with some of that energy,” Campen said. “Go after you. Bulldog-type stuff. Nice to see that. Starting to play with a lot of aggression.”

Yeah I bumped. I called Sitton as starting RG & Barbre as our best backup LT b4 coaches.