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Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#1 » by supaflash » Fri Aug 8, 2008 5:56 pm

Josh Smith reportedly signs an offer for 5 years 58 mil. Average 11.6 per year.

Pretty decent deal for a guy his age and talent. Might keep Drew from a full 80 mil.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#2 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Fri Aug 8, 2008 8:21 pm

Wow thats cheap, Id be happy to sign drew around that much once he proves himself.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#3 » by crazyeights » Fri Aug 8, 2008 10:51 pm

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Post#4 » by deNIEd » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:56 am

CITYOFANGELSX3 wrote:Wow thats cheap, Id be happy to sign drew around that much once he proves himself.


Because the 2nd best center in the league behind Dwight is obviously going to making 56 million or so.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#5 » by Throwback24 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:12 am

^ What? 2nd best center? ... As for the thread, 65/5. Give him an Al Jeff type contract.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#6 » by deNIEd » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:27 pm

Throwback24 wrote:^ What? 2nd best center? ... As for the thread, 65/5. Give him an Al Jeff type contract.


From player comparison boards and this boards, a lot of Laker homer's will argue that Bynum is the 2nd best center prospect, behind Dwight. Currently the 3rd best center, or 2nd best center on a good day, behind Yao and Dwight, sometimes even better than Yao.

However, on the flip side, while they say Bynum is so great, they also say he's a filthy money whore, and doesn't deserve so much money. The two just doesn't add up.


Laker's cheapest option would be to sign Bynum this year (which doesn't seem like its going to happen). If Bynum plays as well as most Laker fan's believe he will, he will be asking for 70+ and very likely the absolute max.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#7 » by dockingsched » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:46 pm

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Throwback24 wrote:^ What? 2nd best center? ... As for the thread, 65/5. Give him an Al Jeff type contract.


From player comparison boards and this boards, a lot of Laker homer's will argue that Bynum is the 2nd best center prospect, behind Dwight. Currently the 3rd best center, or 2nd best center on a good day, behind Yao and Dwight, sometimes even better than Yao.

However, on the flip side, while they say Bynum is so great, they also say he's a filthy money whore, and doesn't deserve so much money. The two just doesn't add up.


Laker's cheapest option would be to sign Bynum this year (which doesn't seem like its going to happen). If Bynum plays as well as most Laker fan's believe he will, he will be asking for 70+ and very likely the absolute max.

nobody says he's currently the 3rd best center. NO ONE says he's sometimes even better than yao. you're just making things up.

anywhoo, josh smith's contract doesn't really reflect on what bynum will get. you have to look at actual young big men, not a forward.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#8 » by lukeridenour » Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:57 pm

deNIEd wrote:
CITYOFANGELSX3 wrote:Wow thats cheap, Id be happy to sign drew around that much once he proves himself.


Because the 2nd best center in the league behind Dwight is obviously going to making 56 million or so.


:lol: 2nd best..
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Post#9 » by what would jack bauer do? » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:47 pm

I don't know about 2nd best center, but Bynum is clearly better than Kaman. He completely schooled Kaman when they played. I put Kaman in the top 5 and Bynum is better than Kaman.

I think 58 million over 5 years is fair, Bynum should stop listening to his agent and just get ready to become part of the Laker legacy over the next 5 years. He'll have plenty of time to earn his big payday when he's 25 and in his prime.

The top 10 centers in my opinion just because I'm bored...
1. Dwight-16.5m
2. Yao- 15m
3. Bynum- ?
4. Kaman- 10.5m
5. Camby- 8m
6. Chandler- 11m
7. Bogus- 12m
8. Shaq- 20m
9. Bad Miller- 11m
10. Ilgauskas- 10.5

Dalembert (10.5) and Biedrins (10.5) don't make the cut for me.
... and yeah I don't consider Okafur, Horford, Duncan, Okur, Rasheed, or Amare as centers...

I think Bynum deserves 60m over 5 years if he's completely healthy in september. He's definitely shown he's already better than Kaman and Bogut, but hasn't shown he can play a full 82 games healthy and at full speed.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#10 » by magic1fan » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:05 am

The lakers shouldn't do anything until bynum shows he is 100% healthy and is atleast playing at an all-star level,doesn't matter if he makes the team.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#11 » by LLcoleJ » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:31 am

deNIED, stop trolling. I am getting tired of your act. Nobody on this board says Bynum is the 2nd best center in the league and everyone says that the will get the max if he is healthy. Where you get your info from, who knows.
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Post#12 » by deNIEd » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:16 am

deNIEd wrote:From player comparison boards and this boards, a lot of Laker homer's will argue that Bynum is the 2nd best center prospect, behind Dwight. Currently the 3rd best center, or 2nd best center on a good day (Meaning massive homer), behind Yao and Dwight, sometimes even better than Yao.

However, on the flip side, while they say Bynum is so great, they also say he's a filthy money whore, and doesn't deserve so much money. The two just doesn't add up.



Phil_2.0 wrote:deNIED, stop trolling. I am getting tired of your act. Nobody on this board says Bynum is the 2nd best center in the league and everyone says that the will get the max if he is healthy. Where you get your info from, who knows.

Answering everything directed at me.

dcash4 wrote:nobody says he's currently the 3rd best center. NO ONE says he's sometimes even better than yao. you're just making things up.


what would jack bauer do? wrote:The top 10 centers in my opinion just because I'm bored...
1. Dwight-16.5m
2. Yao- 15m
3. Bynum- ?


farzi wrote:Clever.

I think Bynum will eventually be better than Yao anyways, but w/e


Cracked Fingers wrote:Howard
Bynum
Kaman
Bogut
Chandler
Oden
Biedrins
Curry

Amare
Bosh
Jefferson
West
Horford
Aldridge
Okafur

Sadly, Aldridge and Okafur should be teammates. Morrison pick looking like total crap.


Clip34life wrote:I'm of the belief that Kaman and Bynum are a tier above Bogut.

1. Howard
2ABynum
2BKaman
3Chandler
4Bogut


tracey_nice wrote:Bynum is GOAT material, he won't finish worst than 5th all time. I can see Bynum averaging 30 and 20 in his prime, while Aldridge is alright, this is easily Bynum.



Bucky O'Hare wrote:Bynum has Oden's shot blocking and rebounding, but with more size, offensive skills, and passing. Give me the more complete player, Andrew Bynum.



Lost Angel wrote:well lets see here.

Andrew Bynum is only 3 months older than Greg Oden, but has 3 years NBA experience on him. Player listings have both at 7 feet, which is wrong because Bynum is around 7'2" and Oden must be at least 7'1".

Weights are listed at 275, and 250, respectively.

so far, Andrew Bynum is winning.

before Bynum went down he was straight up dominating the competition. this is not even close. Andrew Bynum.



WCDYNASTY wrote:Pretty standard for player with his ability and stats. I wouldn't mind giving that same contract to Bynum. $63M for 6 years comes out to $10.5M a year . . . way better for the Lakers than a maximum contract!



daddyfivestar wrote:Okafor's 72m and Biedrins 63 sets the grid for Bynum. If he's healthy and working it he'll be in the Okafor territory, if not as dominant, he may ask for Biedrins money.
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lakerholic4life wrote:This is what happens when the media and a franchise overhype a player to much. Bynum was good but he still only got 13&10. No one deserves 5/80 with those kinds of stats. now if he could get 20/10 then maybe. He has heard all the talk about how different it would have been with him,and now he and his agent are feeling themsleves. I mean the guy hasn't even been an allstar yet,and we made the finals without him.



miggs wrote:Wow if Bynum's agent wants that kind of money then I think the Lakers will pay the money and our hopes for a dynasty will be gone because we wont have ANY space to get quality role players, oh man this could turn out ugly. Bynum seems to want to stay here so hopefully at the end he's down to sign for less than the max. I mean, i believe in Bynum, not because i'm a Laker fan but because I watch him play closely, he's not even 50% developed yet and he's already DOMINATING, of course stats won't show that because he fails more often to score because his offense isn't developed well yet. He's only 21!!! I really feel confident that he's the next great center and if Kobe misses the start of the season i think he'll step up and turn the Lakers' D into an insurmountable beast!

I think he's worth 5/50-60 i mean i don't think we should pay him more than $12 mil a season, it's just not a worth gamble, his talent may be there sure but what if his knee hinders him and we end up with a huge bust! :evil:
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#13 » by dockingsched » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:24 am

did u seriously just back up your claim that lakers homers think bynum is top 3 by citing posters that are NOT lakers fans and ones that are being sarcastic? i mean, did u really take tracey_nice's post seriously?

also, if you have a problem with lakers fans thiking bynum is a top 2-3 center prospect then you have a problem with every fanbase. oden/bynum, the list stops there as far as top center prospects. ask your ill cited comparison board.
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Post#14 » by TruSkool » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:53 am

no way is bynum a top 3 center....maybe not even top 5.

i still rank these players as better Centers than bynum
1st tier
1.yao
2.dwight
3.shaq
4.jefferson
5.j'oneal/bosh (one or the other)
6.okafor



camby, kaman, biedrins, bogut, brad miller-are all players of bynum's level RIGHT NOW...of all these player, bynum has the best chance of being a better player, but i dont think andrew will ever be as good as yao ming(shooting), dwight howard(strength), or shaq(dominance).
the best bynum can be IMO, is a solid allstar, and thats about it...i dont see bynum ever being a "superstar" or a player playing in the olympics.
just a solid allstar.
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Post#15 » by dockingsched » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:04 pm

your list sucks :lol:

shaq? is this 2006?
jo/bosh one or the other? if you think JO is better than bynum then u have never seen bynum play.
okafor? what the heck?
camby/biedrins/brad freaking miller on bynum's level? just stop :lol:
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Post#16 » by deNIEd » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:50 pm

dcash, my problem isn't directed at you at all.

My problem is with fans talking up Bynum and how good he is, yet won't give him the max contract he wants. I don't really know how good Bynum is, I hardly ever watch him or even care. So he very well may be as good as some Laker fans say he is. However, if he is that good, he deserves max money without any question. A top 5 center in the league that is 20? Those don't come by very often. And like you said, the list stops after Oden/Bynum. Because of that, Bynum is that valuable.

You can't go and say Bynum is one of the best centers in the league, yet go and try to offer him Josh Smith money, who isn't even top 10 at his position.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#17 » by LLcoleJ » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:33 pm

deNied,

you keep generalizing about us here on the Laker board while bringing quotes from non-laker fans from other boards.

Then you keep saying WE dont want to pay him. You are wrong on both fronts yet you keep digging in.

The problem is, you dont take time to read what people write on this board and you generalize.

Again, stop and this is a warning. Next time will lead to suspension.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#18 » by microfib4thewin » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:47 pm

I don't know if Denied is trolling or not, so I will just give an honest response.

The Laker homers that tout Bynum as the next great thing is in a very isolated minority. Most really wanted to see what Bynum is capable of before they decide if he's worth the max. When you have a 20 year old center who averaged 16/12/2.5 over a 10 game stretch in only 29 minutes you would probably be excited too, but most are not that carried away to rank Bynum as a top 5 center right now. The reason why people like you don't want anyone to talk positively about Bynum is because he was a risky pick that was not expected to be anything, let alone being the 2nd option on a contending team, whereas Oden played like Bill Russell against his college peers and had as much hype as Lebron coming into the league, so it is not considered wrong to think highly of Oden.
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Re: Yet another measuring stick for Drew's contract 

Post#19 » by Danny Darko » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:24 pm

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yes... his contract will be very large indeed.
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Post#20 » by deNIEd » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:38 am

Iggy signs for 80 mil

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