Official Spanish federation announcement

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Post#141 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:43 pm

M.Balla wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:So the "slant eye" is an affectionate gesture? Who knew?


Its not like Spain doesn't have a history of racism against athletes of other races.


I mean the Lewis Hamilton thing was just a misunderstanding. Luis Aragones was misquoted I'm sure. And those banana's and monkey chants at the England / Spain game were all in fun.

Samuel Eto', Carlos Kameni, and Roberto Carlos are just a bunch of whiners who don't understand spanish affection I guess.


Nobody threw bananas. Urban legend. Get your facts straight.

The Aragones and Hamilton affairs, (who were blown out of proportions BTW) are blatantly and isolated cases of racism. We condemn them. No excuses.

Eto'o and Kameni are still playing on our 40 million racist country... Henry signed on Barcelona... I mean... do the math


Carlos Ferreira Núñez is secretary general of the Coalición Española contra el Racismo (CECRA), the Spanish Coalition Against Racism. ‘It was the whole stadium’, he says. ‘Most of the crowd was middle class, even upper class. Even the VIP section was monkey-chanting.’


Totally blown out of proportion.
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Post#142 » by rade » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:43 pm

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Tomato wrote:Well in the previous thread about this topic(which was deleted), many of the spanish and italian posters said that the slanted eye gesture is a friendly act which they frequently use with asians living in those countries. Is this true?


Of course that is true. We have proved that 134698234 times. But some people can't change his mindset to understand us.


LOL are you serious, how can that be a friendly gesture anywhere. It would be like for Australians to go and hold some bottles of petrol for a promo picture for NAIDOC.


Eat this. Ronaldo (soccer star) at World Cup in Korea and Japan.

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Outside USA, slanted eyes its a friendly gesture.
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Post#143 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:44 pm

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Post#144 » by ljp24 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:45 pm

^haha, i love ronaldo
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Post#145 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:46 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:I'm curious how the Spanish culture explains Lewis Hamiltons treatment. Or the monkey chants and bananas thrown during the England Spain game. Or the treatment of Samuel Eto', Carlos Kameni, and Roberto Carlos. What part of their culture explains that away.


Your ignorance is pretty obvious here.

The Hamilton, Aragones, England-Spain game are all connected.
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Post#146 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:49 pm

PHANTOMPHOENIX wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:I'm curious how the Spanish culture explains Lewis Hamiltons treatment. Or the monkey chants and bananas thrown during the England Spain game. Or the treatment of Samuel Eto', Carlos Kameni, and Roberto Carlos. What part of their culture explains that away.


Your ignorance is pretty obvious here.

The Hamilton, Aragones, England-Spain game are all connected.



Oh, so they were connected - well then that makes it okay.


Theres no racism in Spain.
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Post#147 » by Sheenmue » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:49 pm

Spanish commentators in FIBA World Championship 2006 in Japan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrKUtvZPTc

Navarro celebrating FIBA World Champiohship in Japan:
http://nba.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/0 ... arro_2.jpg
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Post#148 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:49 pm

rade wrote:
vtec wrote:
LOL are you serious, how can that be a friendly gesture anywhere. It would be like for Australians to go and hold some bottles of petrol for a promo picture for NAIDOC.


Eat this. Ronaldo (soccer star) at World Cup in Korea and Japan.

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Outside USA, slanted eyes its a friendly gesture.


Damn, I am still waiting for the Brazilian apology
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Post#149 » by Farm Raid » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:49 pm

I wonder what would've happened if the US team did this. I'm sure they'd be villified across the globe, as everyone is always waiting for the US to **** something up and jump on them.
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Post#150 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:51 pm

Farm Raid wrote:I wonder what would've happened if the US team did this. I'm sure they'd be villified across the globe, as everyone is always waiting for the US to **** something up and jump on them.


Except in the USA is clearly has a negative connotation. :wink:
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Post#151 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:53 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
PHANTOMPHOENIX wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:I'm curious how the Spanish culture explains Lewis Hamiltons treatment. Or the monkey chants and bananas thrown during the England Spain game. Or the treatment of Samuel Eto', Carlos Kameni, and Roberto Carlos. What part of their culture explains that away.


Your ignorance is pretty obvious here.

The Hamilton, Aragones, England-Spain game are all connected.



Oh, so they were connected - well then that makes it okay.


Theres no racism in Spain.


You are completely ignorant on the context of the 3 and why they are connected and why it was a British Media propaganda stunt to paint Spaniards as Barbarians.
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Post#152 » by rade » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:57 pm

PHANTOMPHOENIX wrote:
rade wrote:
vtec wrote:
LOL are you serious, how can that be a friendly gesture anywhere. It would be like for Australians to go and hold some bottles of petrol for a promo picture for NAIDOC.


Eat this. Ronaldo (soccer star) at World Cup in Korea and Japan.

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Outside USA, slanted eyes its a friendly gesture.


Damn, I am still waiting for the Brazilian apology


Where is The Guardian when you need them?
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Post#153 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:01 pm

rade wrote:Where is The Guardian when you need them?


Criticizing Brazil doesn't really fit in with the British Media Agenda
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Post#154 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:02 pm

What...no comments now on the Ronaldo pic???
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Post#155 » by Duiz » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:06 pm

Spain is the only threat to Team USA basketball, thus the only one to be allowed irrationally. Brazilians and the rest of the Spanish, French, and Italian speaking world get breaks on this.
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Post#156 » by Patty Mills » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:08 pm

How did this turn into Spain vs. America, thought the original picture was suppose to pointed towards Asians.
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Post#157 » by PHANTOMPHOENIX » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:10 pm

vtec wrote:How did this turn into Spain vs. America, thought the original picture was suppose to pointed towards Asians.


Because it is not a coincidence that the American and British Media are fueling this.

What...no comment on the Ronaldo pic???

That pic was posted in response to your ignorant comment afterall :lol:
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Post#158 » by Infamous » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:14 pm

TonyMontana wrote:BUT funny thing last night I was in Newport Beach, you know a beach town here in Southern Cali and I actually met a real cutie from Spain she said she was from a town called Menorka.
I brought up the picture incident and she said that it is a common jesture to do that in Spain but she added that it was wrong what they did and there are a few Spaniards that had a problem with that..............


While you were at it, did you tell her that you think that 3/4 of her fellow countrymen and countrywomen are racist?
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Post#159 » by Charlie78 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:21 pm

PHANTOMPHOENIX wrote:
Charlie78 wrote:I guess throwing bananas at black athletes is also okay because it happens in your country.


See, it is statements like these that illustrate who the real racists are.


How does that statement make me a racist. Because I pointed out another instance where your country demenstrated racist traits?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5453851

So your saying this report is fictionalized and made up and that your government often makes new laws based on such reports. Please.

I think the main thing that I find the most troubling in the tone of your posts is that you dont seem to want to understand how something that is acceptable in a countries culture can still be wrong. You dont have to be a perfect example of morality to point it out either. Just because things like infanticide, footbinding, the subjegation of women and slavery are considered acceptable in certain cultures that automatically makes them ok? The answer you should give is no. Now certainly this action is not on the level with those but merely saying it is part of your culture does not make it ok. All that was needed in this case was to simply say we didnt mean to offend anyone and if we did we are sorry, and then you have to actually mean it and not try to justify or rationlize the act.
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Post#160 » by Rocky5000 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:22 pm

Ok folks, by the end of the Spain China game the Chinese had given up booing the Spanish.

"The Spanish display of grace under pressure spread a final hush over the boisterous Chinese crowd that filled the 18,000-seat Beijing Olympic Basketball Gymnasium and had heartily booed every Spanish possession."

But they have not booed a single other team during any of their games, or even another country during any of the events? How do you explain the audience booing Spain, when they didn't boo the United States, or Angola? What is it about the Spanish team that makes the Chinese, a very polite people, boo a team? Why don't they boo the Japanese gymnasts?

I also wouldn't expect Chinese who knew about the incident to even show up for the next Spanish game, why would they? They don't hate the Spanish team so much that they will go to a game just to boo.

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