Shaun Livingston and Robert Swift

TDWOLVESFAN · Post #1 » by **TDWOLVESFAN** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:39 pm

What if we offered these two players the league minimum for players with their years of service plus incentives for number minutes and games played each season. 2 year contract with the second one being a team option. If either of these players pans out, we would add depth to our weakest positions with giving up little for the chance to evaluate them. If they don't work out, we are still in position with BIG DOLLARS for the free agency market in 2010.

Swift is restricted, however I don't think Oklahoma has alot of interest in keeping him. Livingston has shown flashes of great basketball when healthy. Both would need to work on their physical core strength and conditioning. Maybe they can take a page (actually the whole book) from Kevin Garnett's conditioning and diet program, he missed very few games due to injury or illness.

Yes, there are other more athletic centers and more healthy centers and PGs out there. However, they are not available. Their current teams have not given up on them and we could not get them for as cheap as they could sign for at this time.

The average center in our league only plays 65 regular seasons cames per year over the course of his career. Young centers (K Perkins, J Boone, Amare, Hilton Armstrong, Biedrins, Holford (81 games) and Darko) have averaged 64 games per year. The older centers (B Wallace, Kwame, Camby, Dampier, Kaman, B Miller, Yao, Rasho, J O'Neal and S O'Neal) have averaged 67 games per year. Only Wallace, Dampier, Kaman and Rasho have averaged 70+ games per year.

If we can get Swift healthy, strong and conditioned I think he could average 16-18 minutes per game in 65 games. His stats of his only healthy year of 6.5 pts and 5.6 rebs 1.3 bs would suffice for now. If we saw enough improvement, we would have 3 young guys anchoring our middle for a few years - Jefferson, Love and Swift.

They might not want to come here for any other reason than they have a better chance of getting playing time here than with other teams. When we start to win, they should want to stay here.

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4ho5ive · Post #2 » by **4ho5ive** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:41 am

Didnt Livingston turn down a guaranteed deal with the Clips in favor of a long term deal?

Vindicater · Post #3 » by **Vindicater** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:20 am

I would love to give livingston a shot, but i think there are plenty fo teams with mroe money willing as well

JBoog35 · Post #4 » by **JBoog35** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:48 am

I'd give Swift a try over Livingston.

Vindicater · Post #5 » by **Vindicater** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:00 am

Because of our lack of centres I agree that swift is a nice person to look at. But livingston is still awsome

shrink · Post #6 » by **shrink** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:25 am

I wouldn't mind either. We are lacking in centers, and we need a third string PG, because we can't take an injury to either Foye or Telfair, because we don't have multi-position Jaric any more. If they are willing to sign for 1-year deals, or two year deals with team options on year 2, I'd be fine with either (releasing Booth). I understand most teams want a vet for third string, but with our current development, I don't mind putting in high risk, high return players in those spots, if they are willing to accept the role. Maybe they'd develop some trade value.

Vindicater · Post #7 » by **Vindicater** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:48 am

I agree shrink. I think both are worth cheap 1 year contracts, who knows, they could turn there careers around in Sota like telfair did

4ho5ive · Post #8 » by **4ho5ive** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:26 am

Vindicater wrote:I agree shrink. I think both are worth cheap 1 year contracts, who knows, they could turn there careers around in Sota like telfair is trying to do

Fixed, i dont think he is quite there yet

Vindicater · Post #9 » by **Vindicater** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:46 am

yeah, but you know what i mean

JMillott · Post #10 » by **JMillott** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:52 pm

Its a unique idea but i've got to say if Danny Ainge didn't make any attempt to go after Robert Swift this summer that he knee must be in pretty bad shape. Ainge had a total hard on for the kid during the 2004 draft process and has tried to get him via trade a few times since for him not to have even signed him to an offer sheet this summer said a lot to me.

Vindicater · Post #11 » by **Vindicater** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:54 am

Hmmm... maybe shaun livingston then:)

theGreatRC · Post #12 » by **theGreatRC** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:13 am

I'd give Swift a chance if he checks out okay. I still think he can be a serviceable player in this league.

Vindicater · Post #13 » by **Vindicater** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:56 am

They both can be, im starting to get really interested in seeing where livingston ends up...