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Re: Could either Joe Johnson or Wade... 

Post#21 » by ForeveRaptorFan » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:54 pm

miamiballer wrote:bosh could player center for us...or amare


Not sure of that being a great idea. I was thinking that if either one goes to Miami, Beasley would switch to the 3 spot. He can play 3 as I heard correct?
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Post#22 » by miamiballer » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:57 pm

yeah but w/ the lack of centers i think bosh would fit in great at center...he certainly has the legnth and athelticism and he and beasley down low would compliment each other
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Post#23 » by miamiballer » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:58 pm

this is all premature talk though...i think its most likely bosh stays in tor as theyll have a nice team by then most likely, ditto for wade

i do see amare leaving though and i think the heat could make a run at him to play center for us

i think in 2010

bosh stays in tor
wade stays in mia
amare goes to phx or mia
lebron goes to NJ/Brooklyn
Yao stays in Hou
Kobe i dont know...La, Chicago or Europe
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Re: Could either Joe Johnson or Wade... 

Post#24 » by greenbeans » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:01 pm

DMannOC wrote:
subzerokidz wrote:Bosh will not leave Toronto. He signed for an extension so what shows he wouldnt do it again. If Toronto can get into the playoffs again till 2010 (which they will most definantly), Colangelo will sign Bosh, possibly O Neal, and get another superstar; Johnson or Wade

Calderon
Wade or Johnson
Parker
Bosh
O Neal

I smell championship


How could you fit all those players under the salary cap?

you dont have to. lux tax
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Post#25 » by Flash is the Future » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:28 pm

No, you actually do have to, if you intend on signing anyone using capspace...
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Post#26 » by shaqfan1 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:55 pm

Why would Wade sign with the Raptors and trust Jerry Colangelo to put a good team around him when he knows Riley > Colangelo? Right now, Wade is playing against the Euros who are most likely gonna be his teammates Colangelo surrounds him with. And judging by how badly he's taking them, he knows they suck.
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Post#27 » by BiggieSmalls » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:06 pm

subzerokidz wrote:Bosh will not leave Toronto. He signed for an extension so what shows he wouldnt do it again. If Toronto can get into the playoffs again till 2010 (which they will most definantly), Colangelo will sign Bosh, possibly O Neal, and get another superstar; Johnson or Wade

Calderon
Wade or Johnson
Parker
Bosh
O Neal

I smell championship


I think it smells more like getting swept by whoever comes out the west during those years, most likely portland or LA or NO. wade would be a weird fit if ur still having calderon at the point cuz wade is a guy who likes to have the ball in his hands an drive and score not catch and shoot, which is the type of people calderon needs around him catch and shoot guys, so joe johnson would fit perfectly IMO.

People will see this season that the raptors wont be that much better maybe a couple games, because jermaine oneal is one of the most overrated players in this league, now that the east is semi-formidable next year jermaine will struggle and the raptors will be middle of the pack again.
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Post#28 » by ForeveRaptorFan » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:08 pm

shaqfan1 wrote:Why would Wade sign with the Raptors and trust Jerry Colangelo to put a good team around him when he knows Riley > Colangelo? Right now, Wade is playing against the Euros who are most likely gonna be his teammates Colangelo surrounds him with. And judging by how badly he's taking them, he knows they suck.


What? First of all it is BRYAN Colangelo, not Jerry - Jerry is the front of the operations in team USA basketball.

Second of all, your ignorance is rather amusing, not only racially but the team structure of the Raptors. The ONLY Euro Raptor who is playing 'against' Wade is Calderon, and I don't think he goes under the label 'suck' when even Riley had high praises of him.
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Post#29 » by microfib4thewin » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:13 pm

Riley is not better than anyone. He was before, now he's only good at acting like a douche.
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Post#30 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:16 pm

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Hydroponic3385 wrote:Perhaps Joe Johnson. Wade, no way. And not to be a jerk, but I'd place money on Bosh not returning to Toronto. I just think that superstar level players want to play in an American city.


I don't see why an intelligent person like Chris would leave a city like Toronto to go to a city like:

New Jersey
Philadelphia
Milwaukee
Indianapolis
Cleveland
Detroit
Charlotte
Orlando
Washington
Atlanta
Salt Lake City
Denver
Portland
Minneapolis
Oklahoma City
Sacramento
Oakland
Phoenix
New Orleans
Memphis

That leaves Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami, LA, and Texas (only because he'd be playing in his home state). Those are the only cities that are comparable to Toronto (purely as a city).



Have you ever even been to Washington? How dare you lump our Metro area in there with some of those cities. Also New Orleans, PHX , and Philly are great cities. Bosh would be lucky to play in any of those cities.
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Post#31 » by greenbeans » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:30 pm

^^But ESPN doesnt mention them, why should he have to?
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Post#32 » by shaqfan1 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:47 pm

ForeveRaptorFan wrote:What? First of all it is BRYAN Colangelo, not Jerry - Jerry is the front of the operations in team USA basketball.

Second of all, your ignorance is rather amusing, not only racially but the team structure of the Raptors. The ONLY Euro Raptor who is playing 'against' Wade is Calderon, and I don't think he goes under the label 'suck' when even Riley had high praises of him.


You're right, it is Bryan Colangelo. But you didn't understand what I was trying to say. I'm saying if Wade signs with the Raptors, Colangelo will probably surround him with the players he is currently playing against. Because apparently, Euros that seem to do really good in Europe and suck in the NBA are the only type of players Colangelo seems to be able to acquire.
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Post#33 » by ForeveRaptorFan » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:21 pm

shaqfan1 wrote:
ForeveRaptorFan wrote:What? First of all it is BRYAN Colangelo, not Jerry - Jerry is the front of the operations in team USA basketball.

Second of all, your ignorance is rather amusing, not only racially but the team structure of the Raptors. The ONLY Euro Raptor who is playing 'against' Wade is Calderon, and I don't think he goes under the label 'suck' when even Riley had high praises of him.


You're right, it is Bryan Colangelo. But you didn't understand what I was trying to say. I'm saying if Wade signs with the Raptors, Colangelo will probably surround him with the players he is currently playing against. Because apparently, Euros that seem to do really good in Europe and suck in the NBA are the only type of players Colangelo seems to be able to acquire.


No, not really, that's another assumption that you are making up. And you know that Colangelo is going to acquire Euro players that are going to 'suck'? And Riley is going to just build around 'good' US players? :roll:

This is all very non-sensual to me. For your information, Colangelo has signed a few overseas players and have been all pretty solid players, not stars but great quality rotation guys.
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Re: Could either Joe Johnson or Wade... 

Post#34 » by shaqfan1 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:29 pm

ForeveRaptorFan wrote:
shaqfan1 wrote:
ForeveRaptorFan wrote:What? First of all it is BRYAN Colangelo, not Jerry - Jerry is the front of the operations in team USA basketball.

Second of all, your ignorance is rather amusing, not only racially but the team structure of the Raptors. The ONLY Euro Raptor who is playing 'against' Wade is Calderon, and I don't think he goes under the label 'suck' when even Riley had high praises of him.


You're right, it is Bryan Colangelo. But you didn't understand what I was trying to say. I'm saying if Wade signs with the Raptors, Colangelo will probably surround him with the players he is currently playing against. Because apparently, Euros that seem to do really good in Europe and suck in the NBA are the only type of players Colangelo seems to be able to acquire.


No, not really, that's another assumption that you are making up. And you know that Colangelo is going to acquire Euro players that are going to 'suck'? And Riley is going to just build around 'good' US players? :roll:

This is all very non-sensual to me. For your information, Colangelo has signed a few overseas players and have been all pretty solid players, not stars but great quality rotation guys.


Now if only he wasn't fixated on those solid Euros, and decided to go after stars. A team full of solid Euros isn't gonna go far, but a team with stars, above average players, and solid Euros balanced well will get far. Colangelo doesn't seem to understand that.
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Post#35 » by ForeveRaptorFan » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:40 pm

shaqfan1 wrote:
Now if only he wasn't fixated on those solid Euros, and decided to go after stars. A team full of solid Euros isn't gonna go far, but a team with stars, above average players, and solid Euros balanced well will get far. Colangelo doesn't seem to understand that.


He did go after a few stars, why do you think he brought JO in recently? And no, he isn't only fixated on the Euro Market, he also drafts/finds hidden hometown talent that remained undiscovered like Moon. The Toronto loves Euros thing is all blown up and exaggerated, the only reason why Colangelo nabbed a few players there was because they had good players that go unnoticed and fly under the radar and aren't heavily scouted by NBA scouts, so it is relatively cheap and available to find solid talent overseas.

Now with the trend that Euros want to remain stable due to being paid more, I don't expect to see that much talent flowing through anymore from farseas.
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