Favre traded to Jets (done deal)

[Neusch23]

like I said...take them for what they are, rumors. While I heard them from more than one person, they are what they are.

Like many of these situations, people will write books, and we will find out more and more as time goes on. The fact that Brett is in NY, I would expect more and more to come out.

It has made for some interesting conversations over the past sevearl weeks, I will tell you that.

[Kerb Hohl]

I'll have to search for the quote and edit it in here later, but you do realize that even Harlan said he agreed with what TT was doing, right?

EDIT: This isn't totally it, but here is what I have so far:
Shortly after, Chairman Emeritus Bob Harlan added: "What I remember about him is he was ready to retire, and that's how I feel today. I think down deep, that's exactly how he feels."

Right or wrong, this played out about as bad as anything could play out. the town, players and organisation had to put up with more than they ever should have, if we had good leadership.

Murphy was a bit iffy on the whole situation in my mind, but he wasn't a disaster. Either way, how about when "firing" TT and Murphy, they don't retire Brett's number either. I mean, he started this all and didn't actually come up to the city that he "wanted" to play for to negotiate his comeback. If he didn't act like a 12 year old, the management probably would have had a much easier time making this easier for the public whether they took him back or not.

The way you speak of this, the only solution from "good leadership" would be to have begged Favre to come back with open arms, in essence, kissing the ass of one of your employees (albeit your longest and one of your greatest ones) and letting him call the shots. I would not consider that good leadership.

Actually, speaking of good leadership...how ironic that TT and Murphy didn't show "good leadership" in this all, but Brett, by sitting in Hattiesburg while his teammates toughed it out and worked in OTAs and the beginning of training camp while he called for national interviews really showed some good leadership as well for the team he should be running out there on the field.

Lets just say that we better make the playoffs....and most of the insiders I know....say that the locker room is together, but to use their words, everyone is on thin ice, and any little bit of failing could crack it, and break the team back up, where they were not 2 weeks ago when it was mostly vets vs youth.

Is that the vets vs. youth where one of the vets won't change in the locker room with the rest of his team? Is it the vets vs. youth where your new QB is having the team over for cookouts all summer? Is that the vets vs. youth where former vets like LeRoy Butler are saying that Brett wouldn't even talk to most of the rest of the team? How about current vets like Tauscher saying they've moved on?

I'm still waiting for these fights to break out in practice. I don't doubt that there are some guys that wanted Brett back a bit more than Rodgers, but it isn't like they are going to give up.

I like your insight on here Nuesch, and I wouldn't doubt the affair story, the Holmgren quote, or maybe even what Minn offered, and I know that these are all just rumors as you've just said...but if these people you are hearing this from are on the board of trustees or whatever, I am not sure I understand their definition of what they think is "good leadership".

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Best part of your rumors is that Favre getting extorted for a bastard child.......AND THATS NOT THE JUICY STUFF?

[Ayt]

More to come?

[Neusch23]

I'll have to search for the quote and edit it in here later, but you do realize that even Harlan said he agreed with what TT was doing, right?

EDIT: This isn't totally it, but here is what I have so far:
Shortly after, Chairman Emeritus Bob Harlan added: "What I remember about him is he was ready to retire, and that's how I feel today. I think down deep, that's exactly how he feels."

Right or wrong, this played out about as bad as anything could play out. the town, players and organisation had to put up with more than they ever should have, if we had good leadership.

Murphy was a bit iffy on the whole situation in my mind, but he wasn't a disaster. Either way, how about when "firing" TT and Murphy, they don't retire Brett's number either. I mean, he started this all and didn't actually come up to the city that he "wanted" to play for to negotiate his comeback. If he didn't act like a 12 year old, the management probably would have had a much easier time making this easier for the public whether they took him back or not.

The way you speak of this, the only solution from "good leadership" would be to have begged Favre to come back with open arms, in essence, kissing the ass of one of your employees (albeit your longest and one of your greatest ones) and letting him call the shots. I would not consider that good leadership.

Actually, speaking of good leadership...how ironic that TT and Murphy didn't show "good leadership" in this all, but Brett, by sitting in Hattiesburg while his teammates toughed it out and worked in OTAs and the beginning of training camp while he called for national interviews really showed some good leadership as well for the team he should be running out there on the field.

Lets just say that we better make the playoffs....and most of the insiders I know....say that the locker room is together, but to use their words, everyone is on thin ice, and any little bit of failing could crack it, and break the team back up, where they were not 2 weeks ago when it was mostly vets vs youth.

Is that the vets vs. youth where one of the vets won't change in the locker room with the rest of his team? Is it the vets vs. youth where your new QB is having the team over for cookouts all summer? Is that the vets vs. youth where former vets like LeRoy Butler are saying that Brett wouldn't even talk to most of the rest of the team? How about current vets like Tauscher saying they've moved on?

I'm still waiting for these fights to break out in practice. I don't doubt that there are some guys that wanted Brett back a bit more than Rodgers, but it isn't like they are going to give up.

I like your insight on here Nuesch, and I wouldn't doubt the affair story, the Holmgren quote, or maybe even what Minn offered, and I know that these are all just rumors as you've just said...but if these people you are hearing this from are on the board of trustees or whatever, I am not sure I understand their definition of what they think is "good leadership".

I understand your points completely. Honestly, everyone has a side on this behind closed doors. Take them for what it is worth. Obviously, it would have been HUGE news if Harlan EVER would have took a stance that was different than what the team was doing. I think he was quoted agreeing with the status quo of the pack.

Like I said, take them for what they are worth, rumors. Like the one I listed, both people (non connected) swear that McCarthy was giddy to hear back in early June (before the second OTA) that he had talked with Brett, and he said he was going to come back. They swear that he and Brett talked about a practice schedule for the OTA and everything.

Not one person I talked to had glowing things to say about how the situation played out. It was, as stated a divorce.

When I hear some thing enough where I don't think it is one person putting a spin on a different rumor, I will pass it along. The one about his bastard child, the details I have heard don't make me question it, since there have been whispers about it for years in this area. He is supposed to have paid a woman from Crivitz off to keep quiet about a child he fathered with her in the early 90's while in Crivitz hunting. The child now is old enough, and they are said to have tried to get money from Brett. No clue if he ever paid child support.

While I know a couple of board members, I usually find out from them well after things have cooled on the topic. LIke how they veto'ed the moss deal. I have a very good friend who has close business relationships with people with in the Vikes org, and through my business hear a ton from other people in the business who have relationships with the organization. I also know a couple of players.

[xTitan]

Before this season is over...everyone will be saying TT was right and it won't have anything to do with Rodgers.

[El Duderino]

Before this season is over...everyone will be saying TT was right and it won't have anything to do with Rodgers.

Brett got himself into a rough situation. He's 38 and having to learn an entirely new offense, learn new teammates, new coaches, get in shape, live in a new city, is in the tough AFC, Pats in his division, and he got to the Jets weeks late. I think odds are he'd have had at the least a solid year if in Green Bay, but IMO the deck is stacked against him now.

If he plays really well and leads the Jets to a wild card berth, it's a pretty damn big accomplishment given the complete circumstances. If i had to guess though, 7-9 or 8-8 is most likely.

[eagle13]

IF brett retired for family drama reasons - what changed? Deana said if she got to screw Rodgers, she'd forgive brett and he could play football again?

[xTitan]

IF brett retired for family drama reasons - what changed? Deana said if she got to screw Rodgers, she'd forgive brett and he could play football again?

close.......it was Colin Cole.................

[xTitan]

Before this season is over...everyone will be saying TT was right and it won't have anything to do with Rodgers.

Brett got himself into a rough situation. He's 38 and having to learn an entirely new offense, learn new teammates, new coaches, get in shape, live in a new city, is in the tough AFC, Pats in his division, and he got to the Jets weeks late. I think odds are he'd have had at the least a solid year if in Green Bay, but IMO the deck is stacked against him now.

If he plays really well and leads the Jets to a wild card berth, it's a pretty damn big accomplishment given the complete circumstances. If i had to guess though, 7-9 or 8-8 is most likely.

I agree with all the Jets stuff you mentioned but I don't believe he is physically or mentally ready to play anywhere, so I think he would have reverted back to 2006 here or anywhere.............I see the Pats and Bills ahead of the Jets, Bills are a tad under-rated.

[Neusch23]

Before this season is over...everyone will be saying TT was right and it won't have anything to do with Rodgers.

right or wrong, TT handled this about as bad as he could have. He allowed his to become a media circus. He allowed this to drag on for weeks, with blonde espn bimbo's basically living in GB.

We knew this would come to a trade weeks before it happened, so a trade could have happened then....he could have saved the city, the fans, and most importantly his QB and players the hastle.

[bucks59]

Before this season is over...everyone will be saying TT was right and it won't have anything to do with Rodgers.

right or wrong, TT handled this about as bad as he could have. He allowed his to become a media circus. He allowed this to drag on for weeks, with blonde espn bimbo's basically living in GB.

We knew this would come to a trade weeks before it happened, so a trade could have happened then....he could have saved the city, the fans, and most importantly his QB and players the hastle.

How was he supposed to make a trade happen when Favre refused to speak to any other team? The Jets and the Bucs were not going to agree to a trade or even really open up serious discussions until they knew that Favre was committed to playing with them. And Im sure Thompson and other members of the Packers told Favre he would not start with Green Bay and he wouldn't be released.

I agree that Thompson could have handled the media better but I dont know how he was supposed to make a trade earlier. Some members of the media believed that Thompson should have waited a little longer so that a bidding war could occur. Thompson completed this trade within 48 hours of Favre finally indicating that he would be ok with a trade.

[Neusch23]

Before this season is over...everyone will be saying TT was right and it won't have anything to do with Rodgers.

right or wrong, TT handled this about as bad as he could have. He allowed his to become a media circus. He allowed this to drag on for weeks, with blonde espn bimbo's basically living in GB.

We knew this would come to a trade weeks before it happened, so a trade could have happened then....he could have saved the city, the fans, and most importantly his QB and players the hastle.

How was he supposed to make a trade happen when Favre refused to speak to any other team? The Jets and the Bucs were not going to agree to a trade or even really open up serious discussions until they knew that Favre was committed to playing with them. And Im sure Thompson and other members of the Packers told Favre he would not start with Green Bay and he wouldn't be released.

I agree that Thompson could have handled the media better but I dont know how he was supposed to make a trade earlier. Some members of the media believed that Thompson should have waited a little longer so that a bidding war could occur. Thompson completed this trade within 48 hours of Favre finally indicating that he would be ok with a trade.

Sorry, but I have heard drastically different acounts than what has been reported by the media. For one, his wife was pushing him to NY because she would then be closer to her publisher, and is working on another book.

They also wanted the media exposure for their foundations, etc. Much different than what is being stated.

Minny was still the first choice, and a 1st round pick was on the table in june......