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Re: Phelps or Bolt 

Post#121 » by galeon110 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:02 am

Romaniano wrote:PHELPS vs. BOLT

PHELPS
wore the same suit as everyone else
struggled to win @ his hardest in his last race
had plenty of experience going in
did NOT DO THE ROBOT / JOKE AROUND

BOLT
left shoelace was untied... WTF? thats like Phelps winning with half his costume on
JOGGED his way through the qualifying heats, and JOGGED his way to the WR while looking back, pumping his chest and joking around
DID THE FLIPPIN ROBOT IN THE WARMUP vs. everyone else who was all serious and focused
WORE A BAGGY, SWAGGER NBA LIKE JERSEY unlike ANYONE ELSE who wore the tight crap that maximizes wind resistance b/s.

Phelps... sorry you've been outclassed. End of story. Bolt doesn't need "RAP" music to pump himself up.... nah.... he slaps on a XL shirt, doesnt tuck it in... forgets to tie his shoe and smiles back at his competition while they are busting their ARSES off.

You have no clue. Phelps swam in one of his races with his goggles filled with water. He basically had to count all his strokes. Get your facts straight. You can run with untied shoelaces, it doesn't really make a difference, if any at all. Phelps couldn't see at all and relied on counting. You're **** out of your mind if you think Bolt is better than Phelps. Phelps has competed in more events than Bolt and has DOMINATED every single one of them. 7 out of 8 were WORLD RECORD times...
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Re: Phelps or Bolt 

Post#122 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:05 am

^^^If that shoe becomes lose because of the untied laces, it makes a huge difference are u kidding me?????!!!!

This is the 100metre final. Normally everything needs to be perfect to perform a feat like Bolt just did.

What if Bolt tripped because of his untied laces...Seriously dude, I agree that Phelps swimming with water in his goggles was impressive, but for Bolt to annihilate the competition in the greatest race of all time, with his shoes untied, and still have the time to celebrate with 20 metres left in the final is pretty much unfathomable...
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Post#123 » by galeon110 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:09 am

lol I can't believe this is even being argued.... Again, this is Swimming vs. Running... Swimming is way more difficult. And the fact that Phelps went up against the best and won gold in all his competitions, 7 of the 8 by absolutely destroying the World Record times and one with no sight at all and still beating the world record. Again... 14 gold medals, 8 in one games.
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Post#124 » by High 5 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:10 am

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High 5 wrote:Lots of hatin' Canadians around here. :lol:

Oh well, no one is making any progress in this thread. I'll let history decide.


More like Americans upset someone took shine off their boy. :)


How? I still haven't seen anything about Bolt on any Olympic coverage. If not for this forum I never even would have known it happened. No one can take the shine off of 8 gold medals.
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Post#125 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:16 am

galeon110 wrote:lol I can't believe this is even being argued.... Again, this is Swimming vs. Running... Swimming is way more difficult. And the fact that Phelps went up against the best and won gold in all his competitions, 7 of the 8 by absolutely destroying the World Record times and one with no sight at all and still beating the world record. Again... 14 gold medals, 8 in one games.


How many swimmers are in the world? How many runners are there? The competition is much tougher to be a 100m sprinter. There are only about 20 or so human beings on the planet who can run under 10 seconds. Out of 6 billion.

14 gold medals, 8 in one games, is impressive. But who the hell competes in 8 races? There are so many made up events in swimming, its ridiculous. To be honest, this really can't be compared. They're two totally different sports. The playing field isn't even on the same surface. One's on land the other is in water... Give Bolt the oppurtunity to run in 8 different races and we can talk.

Also, Bolt's achievement was being the fastest man on the planet. Phelps isn't even the fastest man in swimming. So how do the two compare??
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Post#126 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:20 am

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hsb wrote:
High 5 wrote:Lots of hatin' Canadians around here. :lol:

Oh well, no one is making any progress in this thread. I'll let history decide.


More like Americans upset someone took shine off their boy. :)


How? I still haven't seen anything about Bolt on any Olympic coverage. If not for this forum I never even would have known it happened. No one can take the shine off of 8 gold medals.


Thats because NBC is obsessed with their own athletes and delays about 50-60% of the events so they can air them in prime time and make the big bucks.

The fact that ESPN had Carmelo Anthony's face on the front page when Bolt just achieved the impossible speaks volumes of where track and field ranks in American Sports culture. It wasn't always this way, but given the fact that an American wasn't competing in the 100metres makes a huge difference. There in lies the difference. The rest of the world acknowledge great sporting achievement no matter which country the athlete is from. American's tend to value achievement made by their own athletes, hardly any respect/recognition is given to other nationalities...
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Re: Phelps or Bolt 

Post#127 » by galeon110 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:23 am

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galeon110 wrote:lol I can't believe this is even being argued.... Again, this is Swimming vs. Running... Swimming is way more difficult. And the fact that Phelps went up against the best and won gold in all his competitions, 7 of the 8 by absolutely destroying the World Record times and one with no sight at all and still beating the world record. Again... 14 gold medals, 8 in one games.


How many swimmers are in the world? How many runners are there? The competition is much tougher to be a 100m sprinter. There are only about 20 or so human beings on the planet who can run under 10 seconds. Out of 6 billion.

14 gold medals, 8 in one games, is impressive. But who the hell competes in 8 races? There are so many made up events in swimming, its ridiculous. To be honest, this really can't be compared. They're two totally different sports. The playing field isn't even on the same surface. One's on land the other is in water... Give Bolt the oppurtunity to run in 8 different races and we can talk.

Also, Bolt's achievement was being the fastest man on the planet. Phelps isn't even the fastest man in swimming. So how do the two compare??

How the hell has Bolt achieved fastest man at running on the planet yet Phelps doesn't get the totle fastest swimmer? Phelps has broken 7 world records...
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Re: Phelps or Bolt 

Post#128 » by High 5 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:24 am

You kidding me? That's the way it is in dominant countires. USA, China and Russia, it's all about their athletes for the most part. When your country sucks like Canada (sorry, it's true) you have no choice but to follow athletes from other countries. Otherwise no one would watch.

And the fastest man thing is stupid. Why is a guy who runs the fastest 100m faster than the guy that runs the fastest 200m?
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Post#129 » by SportsWorld » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:25 am

Thats because NBC is obsessed with their own athletes and delays about 50-60% of the events so they can air them in prime time and make the big bucks.

Down with NBC for giving more coverage to athletes in their own country
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Post#130 » by AdamTheGreek » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:27 am

Most Americans will say it's Phelps.

But around the world, Bolt is already far superior in their eyes and wait until he takes the 200 meters.
Phelps will forever be an iconic legend, but so will Bolt for having both 100 and 200-meter titles.
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Post#131 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:27 am

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eyeatoma wrote:
galeon110 wrote:lol I can't believe this is even being argued.... Again, this is Swimming vs. Running... Swimming is way more difficult. And the fact that Phelps went up against the best and won gold in all his competitions, 7 of the 8 by absolutely destroying the World Record times and one with no sight at all and still beating the world record. Again... 14 gold medals, 8 in one games.


How many swimmers are in the world? How many runners are there? The competition is much tougher to be a 100m sprinter. There are only about 20 or so human beings on the planet who can run under 10 seconds. Out of 6 billion.

14 gold medals, 8 in one games, is impressive. But who the hell competes in 8 races? There are so many made up events in swimming, its ridiculous. To be honest, this really can't be compared. They're two totally different sports. The playing field isn't even on the same surface. One's on land the other is in water... Give Bolt the oppurtunity to run in 8 different races and we can talk.

Also, Bolt's achievement was being the fastest man on the planet. Phelps isn't even the fastest man in swimming. So how do the two compare??

How the hell has Bolt achieved fastest man at running on the planet yet Phelps doesn't get the totle fastest swimmer? Phelps has broken 7 world records...


Uhh...He didn't compete in the 50metre or 100metre events in swimming. Those are considered the premier events when it comes to overall speed of an athlete. I believe its Alain Bernard who is the fastest swimmer in the world. Phelps actually isn't that fast a swimmer, he is superior when it comes to swimming underwater because of his big feet, and ability to flex his ankles 15 degrees more than most human beings. In essence he is able to mimic a dolphin better than anyone he competes against. But the title of fastest swimmer does not belong to Michael Phelps. He gets the title of most medals for an olympian.
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Post#132 » by High 5 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:28 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:But around the world, Bolt is already far superior in their eyes


That's just not true.
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Post#133 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:28 am

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Thats because NBC is obsessed with their own athletes and delays about 50-60% of the events so they can air them in prime time and make the big bucks.

Down with NBC for giving more coverage to athletes in their own country


Down with NBC for not airing the most anticipated event of the Olympics live, when the rest of the world is...
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Post#134 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:30 am

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And the fastest man thing is stupid. Why is a guy who runs the fastest 100m faster than the guy that runs the fastest 200m?


You're right your opinion is correct. The fact that the rest of the world uses that race as a measuring stick is wrong...
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Post#135 » by SportsWorld » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:30 am

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SportsWorld wrote:
Thats because NBC is obsessed with their own athletes and delays about 50-60% of the events so they can air them in prime time and make the big bucks.

Down with NBC for giving more coverage to athletes in their own country


Down with NBC for not airing the most anticipated event of the Olympics live, when the rest of the world is...

They aired it in primetime right after Phelps got his 8th gold medal right at the peak of the ratings. I bet more than 25,000,000 people watched it.
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Post#136 » by BlackMamba » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:31 am

well, first of all i think that it's difficult to compare to completely different sports and 2 completely different athletes. (it would be interesting to see pehlps run and bolt swim)

ok, back on topic. i think they are both great athletes and they are both part of the greatest that ever existed but i would have to choose phelps on this one.

it's a tough choice because to compare in an olympic sense you have to wait 4 years and it can change a lot. take for example the technology swimming has had for the past 3 olympics, it has been very impressive and has been way ahead of other sports.

phelps could "shine" more because he gets more medals because he participates in more events, but still, how many other wimmers have participated and haven't been close to what he has accomplished.

but you can't leave bolt behind, he participates in maybe the most demanding event of the whole olympics and that also keeps him from participating in other track & field events, the preparation is different.

while all the swimming events could have the same basis, it's not the same to run 100mts, 200mts, 400, etc. imagine if bolt could participate in also 8 different events, he maybe could do what carl lewis did, but it's still difficult.

even though, i think phelps by a hair.
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Post#137 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:31 am

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AdamTheGreek wrote:But around the world, Bolt is already far superior in their eyes


That's just not true.


Do you speak for the rest of the world? The American media focuses on American athletes and their achievements. How can you possibly judge what the rest of the world believes to be valid when your own media refuses to broadcast world events live?
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Post#138 » by High 5 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:31 am

eyeatoma wrote:
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And the fastest man thing is stupid. Why is a guy who runs the fastest 100m faster than the guy that runs the fastest 200m?


You're right your opinion is correct. The fact that the rest of the world uses that race as a measuring stick is wrong...


My opinion is that's stupid. I can have an opinion. I asked a question, though. If someone can answer it then maybe my opinion will change.
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Post#139 » by eyeatoma » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:34 am

High 5 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
High 5 wrote:
And the fastest man thing is stupid. Why is a guy who runs the fastest 100m faster than the guy that runs the fastest 200m?


You're right your opinion is correct. The fact that the rest of the world uses that race as a measuring stick is wrong...


My opinion is that's stupid. I can have an opinion. I asked a question, though. If someone can answer it then maybe my opinion will change.


I did answer it. Its a consensus measuring stick. There has to be some way to rank who the fastest person on the planet is right? Its been this way since the Olympics inception. Why are u questioning history? Admit it dude, if Tyson Gay had just performed this feat, you would be defending him to the death if someone questioned how he can be labeled the fastest man in the world...
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Re: Phelps or Bolt 

Post#140 » by High 5 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:34 am

eyeatoma wrote:
High 5 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:But around the world, Bolt is already far superior in their eyes


That's just not true.


Do you speak for the rest of the world? The American media focuses on American athletes and their achievements. How can you possibly judge what the rest of the world believes to be valid when your own media refuses to broadcast world events live?


Do you speak for the rest of the world? There have been people from other countries that have said Phelps. Are they wrong?

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