Rocky5000 wrote:They tested positive for **** like Robitussin.
If they were covered up then those athletes should have to give back their medals. If the test were shown to the IOC and they said, "Okay, it's Robitussin" then fine.
Rocky5000 wrote:They tested positive for **** like Robitussin.
Dry_Fish wrote:you don't mean this do youDocuments purporting to show that a number of American athletes, including Carl Lewis, were allowed to compete in the Olympics after failing drug tests prove suspicions of US drug cover-ups, says the head of the World Anti-Doping Agency.
Dr Wade Exum, the former USOC director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated and the Orange County Register.
He said they showed that athletes such as Lewis and Mary Joe Fernandez tested positive but were allowed by the US Olympic Committee to compete anyway
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/ ... 07806.html
Exum claimed more than 100 positive drug tests for US athletes who won 19 Olympic medals from 1988-2000, but many of them were allowed to compete.
Exum said Lewis was among them, testing positive three times for small amounts of banned stimulants found in cold medications at the 1988 Olympic trials. The USOC first disqualified him, then accepted his appeal on the basis of inadvertent use. Lewis went on to win gold at Seoul in the long jump - and in the 100 metres after Ben Johnson himself was disqualified for using steroids.
Pound dismissed the claims of "inadvertent" drug use. "At the time this happened, Carl Lewis already had four gold medals from the Olympics," he said. "You know perfectly well you've got to be very careful what you take. The offence is the presence of the substance in your body."
jourdy wrote:Dry_Fish wrote:you don't mean this do youDocuments purporting to show that a number of American athletes, including Carl Lewis, were allowed to compete in the Olympics after failing drug tests prove suspicions of US drug cover-ups, says the head of the World Anti-Doping Agency.
Dr Wade Exum, the former USOC director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated and the Orange County Register.
He said they showed that athletes such as Lewis and Mary Joe Fernandez tested positive but were allowed by the US Olympic Committee to compete anyway
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/ ... 07806.html
Great find. You just took a giant dump on some people's faces.
RockTHECasbah wrote:no one took a dump, people here can acknowledge that American's have hidden many things in track and field
some people have trouble acknowledging the fact that some Chinese gymnasts are underaged, your age doesn't suddenly go from 13 to 16 in one year
canoner wrote:So now team USA has a history of covering up doping. Considering how hard they defended Jones I am not surprised. I wonder how american fans feel if others always question gold medals won by american athletes by mentioning this history.
j-far wrote:Yao_noodle wrote:team of dopers complaint about team of false agers?
wow, that's complicated. no wonder it reached 8 pages and is going on.
get a life, whiners and haters.
Take it easy with the name calling there. I've been observing your posts in this thread and this is not the first instance you've done this.
sonny wrote:http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2008/08/hack-olympics.html
and
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2008/08/o ... o-for.html
Blame Rasho wrote:
Yeah... People who believed Mark McGuire and Jones are gullible. It would be stupid not to question their accomplishments when they were significantly better than the standard deviation of the rest of the elite athletes of their sport.
Yeah... People who believed Mark McGuire and Jones are gullible. It would be stupid not to question their accomplishments when they were significantly better than the standard deviation of the rest of the elite athletes of their sport.
PPL were attacked left and right when they said that about Phelps in doping thread
dougthonus wrote:PPL were attacked left and right when they said that about Phelps in doping thread
It's certainly possible that Phelps juiced or did something, but he submitted to voluntary blood testing where they can check his blood 10 years from now with newer technology to find anything. If he's guilty he will absolutely be caught, and he should be smart enough to know that anything he takes will eventually be detectable in the blood stream if he gives them blood they can use later. So while I wouldn't put it in the "no way in hell" category by any stretch, I also wouldn't say that I'd necessarily suspect him either.
He also doesn't fit the profile of our other steroid freaks by performing historically great events way past his prime. That's what should have tipped people off about many other guilty parties in advance. On the other hand, while sad, it's definitely true that any premier athlete is automatically suspected of juicing regardless of what they do to prove otherwise. Phelps will always have at least some question marks over his head in the minds of many Americans (and probably those world wide) for being great regardless of whether there is evidence or not just due to the era his achievements took place in.
Yao_noodle wrote:j-far wrote:Yao_noodle wrote:team of dopers complaint about team of false agers?
wow, that's complicated. no wonder it reached 8 pages and is going on.
get a life, whiners and haters.
Take it easy with the name calling there. I've been observing your posts in this thread and this is not the first instance you've done this.
Sorry if I touched the nerve of any sour losers here.
USA does cheat. USA government and media did cover up their cheats. there is no freaking reason and moral ground that you can single out Chinese with your pathetic speculations (they cheated on age, they must be cheating again), other than being a sour loser, meh.
Even if the web evidence is real, maybe the Chinese are just really bad about keeping records. You never heard of web site with bad data? Maybe Chinese gymnast coaches claimed a lower age in some competition in China to compete in tournaments with upper age limit a long time ago and their old "fake id" stuck around and coming back to bite them. How many times do you fill out false age on the internet? How many kids do you think click the "18+" button when they aren't. I know I never give my real DOB and often give a fake year.
dougthonus wrote:It's certainly possible that Phelps juiced or did something, but he submitted to voluntary blood testing where they can check his blood 10 years from now with newer technology to find anything. If he's guilty he will absolutely be caught, and he should be smart enough to know that anything he takes will eventually be detectable in the blood stream if he gives them blood they can use later. So while I wouldn't put it in the "no way in hell" category by any stretch, I also wouldn't say that I'd necessarily suspect him either.
dougthonus wrote:
1)Girls look underage.
2)Girls are reported as being underage according to other provincial tournament documents
3)Girls are reported as being underage according to historical news reports
4)China has a history of falsifying ages including doctoring legal documents in this sport